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That would be weird as she would have been only 27 in 1984 when she debuted on Loving. And also Chris Marcantel was born in 1958 according to Wikipedia, which would have meant “mother” and “son” were almost the same age 🤪

I find it really fascinating that B&B was hitting Top 5 for overall households as early as 1990 (and this was all pre-Sheila as that was still unfolding on Y&R). That time would have been Caroline’s death, Brooke and Eric’s wedding, and a few others that I’ve probably missed. That’s an amazing achievement for CBS and Bill Bell.

Out of curiosity, was there much exploration done into the sibling relationship between Buck and Trucker in the couple of years they were on LOV together? Or was that more of a plot point connected with the Trisha exit story?

@Soapsuds there are heaps of 404 errors coming up with your images...

Having watched both Y&R and SFT from that era recently, I can’t decide who’s the more evil: Warren Carter or David Kimble? They were both incredibly psychotic human beings 🙃

Curious to know why CBS felt they had to replace Capitol with B&B. They would have been the perfect back-to-back juxtaposition in an hour slot: the east coast political intrigue vs the west coast fashion and glamour.

I was watching some 1984-5 episodes recently, and the music cues in those episodes were very clearly old-school (60s/70s). You compare that to something like Y&R or GH at that time, and it was obvious they were very current and even way ahead of their game.

So June 1975 had two of the most iconic moments in daytime history: Philip Chancellor’s death in the car crash on Y&R, and Jennifer Pace crashing through the glass door on SFT. How awesome was that!

This was an episode from mid-1984 that I just stumbled upon. Again lots of familiar faces (Matt Ashford, Marie Cheatham, David Forsyth, Michael Corbett, Lisa Peluso). Even some lovely scenes here with Rod Arrants and Jane Krakowski. The episodes I’ve seen previously of SFT all had Louise Shaffer as Stephanie, but seeing Marie Cheatham’s portrayal here endeared me a lot more to her as a character, and actually made Stephanie somewhat more human and calm rather than as the caricature overbearing mother that Shaffer seemed to bring out more. It’s a shame that they couldn’t keep Cheatham longer.

I watched my very first Capitol episode today, and I was surprised to see people in there I was not expecting. I knew Constance Towers was in there, but I was surprised to see Tonja Walker and even more shocked to see a young Catherine Hickland playing a non-bitchy character for a change. And in the episode Soapsuds just posted above, is that Kimberlin Brown playing the girl who walks in with Jordy at the beginning??

I came on to say exactly the same thing. Just because one happens to have been reported doesn’t mean there are not others. People need to chill and see what unfolds.

Sheesh that storyline seems way more intense than I thought it would be. So essentially Warren was gaslighting Suzy to the hilt, and had somehow roped Wendy into the plan as well. That is insane. Thanks for those... it was full on just watching those clips.

I watched some Search For Tomorrow episodes from 1984 a few months back, and was curious about one of the storylines. Warren Carter had just escaped from jail where he had faked his death, and was now stalking Suzy while secretly taunting Jo, Martin, Cagney, etc with mysterious gifts. It had got to the point where Warren was hiding in an old house and was blackmailing someone to keep his secret. What ended up happening wth that storyline? I know by December 1985 (when Lisa Peluso left as Wendy), Cagney and Suzy were happily married, but what happened in between?

Depends on when this was though. Even into the 90s and early 2000s the enmity between Kay and Jill was still gigantic. So it wouldn’t be out of character for Kay to see Jill as “evil”, and nor would it be out of character for Jill to think the same of Kay.

It’s funny hearing all this talk about social cues being ignored and that sort of thing back in the 90s. If that had been going on today, a smart writer would be bringing up neurodiversity as a social issue big time (and they kinda did it with Theo’s autism). It might have seemed completely far fetched back then when Asperger’s was only starting to emerge, but now that there is less of a social stigma around it nowadays (but nevertheless it still exists), neurodiversity is something that should be more explored.

I remember watching that whole storyline as a teenager back in Australia, and my mum always used to make fun of it because of Mamie’s constant “but she’s MAH SISTAAAH” when Lillie was recovering from depression at Nate and Olivia’s. That has never left my mind to this day...

They did this with Victor and Leanna in 1988 when they got married right after his divorce from Nikki. As it turns out, the marriage was invalid because Victor hadn’t waited the required six months. You’d think he would learn 😏

Sometimes I wonder back when Bobby Warner was reintroduced in the mid-late 90s, how would things have panned out if somehow Peter Bergman had come back as Cliff at that point (yes yes I know he was well and truly at Y&R by that stage, but one can dream)? That would have been an interesting dynamic to explore especially with Nina coming back for a little bit as well (and the soap geek in me reckons Peter Bergman and Brian Gaskill had enough physical resemblance at least to pull it off).

According to the SoapCentral character bio, Liz Foster and Bruce Henderson are indeed listed as siblings. One thing that piqued my curiosity - the mention of the Montgomery surname for Claudette. Was there any link to Travis and Jack years later?

That must have been just after Tammy Taylor left Y&R. And Marlena’s radio show - was that where the Salem Strangler storyline started?

This! It was a masterstroke getting, firstly, Alex Donnelly back as Diane in 1996/7, and then Eileen Davidson back as Ashley a couple of years later. The enmity between these two characters stretches all the way back to the early 80s when Ashley caught Jack and Diane together in bed on the day of Jack’s wedding to Patty, and having the original actresses in those roles cross paths again in the spermgate storyline was just too delicious (no pun intended). Notwithstanding the whole ickyness of that storyline in the first place, it did create (literally) a new generation of legacy characters in Abby and Kyle. Have they ever played up the potential conflict between these two that would arise as a result of how they were conceived? Are there any clips of AD’s Diane and ED’s Ashley together floating around on YT anywhere? It would be fascinating to watch from a historical perspective.

The Rescotts arrived sometime in 1984, apparently, if this is anything to go by... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Loving_cast_and_characters?wprov=sfti1

Oooh look at how young some of those peeps were back then. And a small glimpse of Roya Megnot as Ava with whom I assume was Perry Stephens’ Jack during their “romance”?

Can I just confirm what you were WTFing about exactly? Some of these Love In The Afternoon teasers were damn awesome.

Speaking of the secret room, does anyone know if there are any more 1985 episodes online pertaining to the Tina paternity storyline? I’m interested to see how it all unfolds...