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Wowsers. And Derek Thurston was involved in this? So Julia fell pregnant but was unsure if the baby was Victor’s or Michael’s? And she had a subsequent miscarriage?

So I gather most of you would have seen this little ditty flying around on Twitter by now. Now I don’t have much opinion on Jonathan Swan himself considering that he is as much an access journalist as Maggie Haberman. But he does seem to do a good job of pushing back on Trump here. As an aside, one thing I only learned this morning: he happens to be the son of one of the health experts on Australian public radio, Norman Swan, who has incidentally been one of the leading voices in the ongoing COVID debate back home in Australia, especially i Melbourne where there is currently a second wave occurring.

Another question I had - Victor had mentioned that Eve had caused the breakup of his and Julia’s marriage. What exactly happened there?

Just been watching some more of the December 1982 clips. The dialogue writing always strikes me as a cut above the other soaps. Others have mentioned on here that the writing had that deep psychological basis to it, and it is so obvious in some of the scenes I’ve watched. The scene between Douglas and Victor when they are talking about Julia, for example - we get SO MUCH insight from just that one scene into how Victor is thinking and feeling, and what motivates him. The same with Douglas and Julia in her penthouse later on, talking about how Julia is feeling and her present relationship with Victor. As an aside, I was not aware just *how much* Douglas was used as a supporting player back then. I was shocked to see a scene between him and Alison Bancroft - I had no idea these two would have even crossed paths, and yet their scene just made sense when I watched it. Y&R was really starting to fire up as a 1-hour show by this point.

This right here breaks me. Melbourne was my home for 12 years, and it is just horrifying to see this happen to such a wonderful city.

Just watched the first of the 1983 clips. Victor and Julia ❤️!! And would it be too crude of me to say that I would just scoop Kevin in my arms and have my way with him? He is just so puppy-dog adorable! And he and Nikki are dynamite 🧨

I could buy pre-1980 BD Jill dating Andy, if only with a lot more sighing and eye rolling at the lack of extravagance.

I posted a comment earlier saying that a redemption storyline could possibly be written if they perhaps brought back Michael Damian as Danny, and wrote a story about Patty going back to where it first began for her. It would rope in Traci straight away due to the history between the three, not to mention the ties that Danny has to Phyllis, Chris, Lauren, Michael and Paul. Lots and lots of pre-existing backstory that can easily be used, if the writing was executed properly.

It’s funny because the past couple of days I have been thinking about what I would do if I were in the writer’s box seat, so to speak, and mapping out Y&R’s future direction. In fact, Traci would feature quite a lot as a major supporting character, if not front burner. Basically it would go as follows... “One day Paul & Christine get a knock on the door at their place. They open it to a surprisingly lucid and happy Patty, who had finally been getting treatment for her long standing mental issues, and wants to have another chance at starting afresh. But Patty had a shocking surprise for both Paul & Chris - a new husband. Even more shocking is the identity of Patty’s new man... Danny Romalotti. It seems that while Patty was being treated for her issues, Danny happened to be on a break from one of his tours. Obviously he had not been so much in the loop with what had been happening in Genoa City over the last number of years, and his mind wandered to his high school sweetheart. At the same time, Patty flashed back to the support that Danny had given her all the way back during her ill-fated romance with Jack Abbott. She also relived in her mind the drama and heartache she had caused with Traci’s miscarriage, and felt that she had to truly make peace with Danny. So she made contact with him and they met once again for the first time in decades. Danny and Patty were both very lonely and nostalgic for happier, younger times. So after a brief courtship, they became married. However, Danny was not fully aware of what had happened with Patty when she had returned to Genoa City in the late 2000s, and Patty wasn’t exactly willing to divulge that information. Paul and Chris both tried to talk to Danny about Patty, but Danny wouldn’t have any of it. He insisted that he was happy with Patty and wanted to really make it work this time. Patty was overjoyed to hear this, as it meant a genuine new beginning for her. Danny and Patty both decided to stay in Genoa City permanently to be closer to their loved ones, and moved into their own apartment. Word eventually reached Jack Abbott that Patty was back in town (again), and married to Danny as well. So one day Jack paid Danny a visit. Danny was surprised to see Jack, especially as they had not had any contact with each other for a couple of decades. And Danny didn’t exactly feel sentimental either when it came to Jack Abbott, particularly considering what he had cause Patty many years earlier.” I could literally go on and on spawning story from this. Danny has numerous historical organic ties to characters currently on canvas - Christine, Paul, Lauren, Michael, Traci, Jack, Phyllis. I’m not saying that it should become the Danny show, but his return (if written correctly) would be potential dynamite, particularly in combination with a Patty return. And you wouldn’t even have to create too much backstory, because most of it is already there. You could even have the Patty and Danny relationship develop on screen if necessary. But again, this is just me with my crayons trying to map out a decent story.

Yes! I said this in a reply a couple of days back. Traci in 1982 was just WOW. It’s a shame the later clips didn’t capture more of the story, but OMG how completely withdrawn was she. Like you, I just felt so sorry for her.

That was neat to watch! One question though - was that Trish Stewart playing Chris in that clip? And it’s weird seeing 1984 Pamela Peters, as I had only seen her during some 1973 and 1975 episodes on here. And I’m disappointed that they never broached the subject of Lance in that discussion, considering that’s the reason that Lorie left town in the first place.

So having just watched Lorie’s last 1982 scenes - that was a PHENOMENAL exit. The letter writing/reading scene was pure perfection. I just sat there wishing I could write as good as her. And Bill Bell managed to bring out every single ounce of inner emotional conflict from both her and Victor. I know some people bag out 1982 as a naff year for Y&R, but scenes like that just reinforce why BB was an absolute master at his craft. Even that very last scene with Lucas where she should have felt over the moon but wasn’t - why don’t we get stuff like that nowadays? This is the kind of thing that got me hooked in the first place. So once again to whomever has been uploading the 1982 stuff - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU 🙏 ❤️

NO. NO. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. NO!!! 🤢😂

I just watched the 1982 clips in the vault and OMG we have been spoiled! 1982 Traci was so shy and withdrawn, especially with the longer hair and the way she was dressed. The change she would undergo just in the next few years is crazy. So cute seeing her and Angela bond (Liz Kiefer was actually damn good in this). That would have been a friendship I’d have loved to see grow throughout the years. I also love that they were already telegraphing the Traci and Danny stuff that would arise a year or so later. I just wish we had clips of the actual wedding of Jack and Patti, including Ashley catching him in bed with Diane. That would have made my year! 1982 Ashley was YOUNG!! And again, the stuff she would be involved in only a few years later. The scenes with Nikki and Caroline are hilarious. Who knew Nikki was such a bitch even back in 1982? Kevin is an absolute doll (and Christopher Holder was quite easy on the eye too). The Victor and Lorie storyline was awesome too - when was the ill-fated wedding where she left him the goodbye note? And the Kay/Earl/Alison stuff - OMG Kay was so frickin catty with Alison, but I loved every moment. THANK YOU to whoever uploaded those - they put a massive smile on my face! 😁❤️

Yes, between December 1988 (Brenda’s arrival) and September 1989 (Terry’s departure). And their chemistry was quite strong. She held her own against Terry just as well as Eileen did.

😳 that’s just creepy AF.

@FrenchFan thank you sooo much for the 1982 synopsis. Definitely fills in a LOT of blanks. I love how there was that triangle between Jack/Patty/Danny. I don’t know why they didn’t keep the Jack/Danny rivalry going in later years though...

It’s funny reading all these old synopses of soaps and seeing all these characters you’ve never heard of and how they interacted with the main cast. Particularly funny (and also mind-blowing for me) was the Natalie Bannon character on As The World Turns and reading about her machinations with Tom - and then finding out completely by accident that she was played by none other than Judith Chapman (her first soap role in fact). Have you guys ever had those WTF moments similar to this where you find out that such and such a well-known soap actor played a particular old role?

That was actually an enlightening video. Reminded me of this clip of PSM vs Heather Locklear in the early years...

I know she is not well, but I had to stifle a few chuckles listening to that. Holy geeeez...

YAAAAS ❤️

The clips that keep popping up on Youtube. This clip is a snippet of the phenomenal Angela Bassett’s brief run on Search For Tomorrow from early 1985 (which is hardly documented anywhere).

This was one I stumbled on as a result of watching the above interview. Another one she did with Dick Cavett when she was much younger.

I watched this last night just before I went to sleep. Honestly, his words were what I needed to hear during this tough time. I’ve been having massive emotional struggles myself, and his talking about “being kind to yourself” and “perfecting the mask of being in public”... just some of the stuff that resonated with me. Bravo to this man for being so open and honest about his journey. I do hope he finds more peace as time goes on - I still think there was lots of dodgy business over his election loss to DeSantis, but all we can do for now is find a way through this current time.