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Andy arrived in July 1981 according to Wikipedia. Danny’s first year is quoted as 1980 by both Wikipedia and Soapcentral.

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On a slight tangent to Jill and Nikki, one of the 1985 clips has a rare scene with Victor and Jill interacting extensively at the Abbott mansion after Ashley went missing. It was really intriguing watching Eric Braeden and Brenda Dickson together in the same scene - one of the only times I think that ever happened on Y&R.

I saw that tweet, but only because Nate Silver himself has come out with guns blazing to say just how inaccurate it is.

Trump appears to be losing the troops...

Obviously the state polls will be the ones to watch, especially with some saying that Trump and Biden are neck and neck in places like MI and WI. But like some others on here, I believe that as long as Biden can maintain the wide national margin that he has right now, I think we will start to see some states widen their margins somewhat. Only time will tell though, we can hope.

I wonder if that’s why they started to push Matt Miller into the Victor/Nikki/Ashley triangle, to make up for Jack’s absence.

It only just struck me now that Chadwick Boseman was the original Reggie on AMC. There is an old clip that’s just been posted in the AMC thread of his performance there.

@Vee that Parker Molloy thread was absolutely brutal. Unfortunately she’s right when she says that Maggie Haberman will not have the humility or decency to say that she was wrong.

The rain confrontation comes in around December 1986, so would not have been uploaded in the clips yet (we’re still on mid-1985). Rose DeVille is also 1986-7 (at least for Nina’s involvement).

Some questions I have about the Brent/Ashley storyline thus far: One of the creepy truck drivers was about to attempt to attack Ashley in the motel while she was sleeping, but the subsequent clips seemed to skip over the outcome of that. What happened there? It seems that Victor knows that Brent is Ashley’s father, but how would he have found that out? Was it Dina who told him? If so, how did it come about that Dina told Victor in the first place?

A Eurodance banger from the early 90s that sampled an old Simple Minds track...

1985’s getting good! Finally get to see the aftermath of Ashley learning the truth about her paternity. I’m impressed by the effort they went to with all the outdoor shots in the pouring rain. She played the distraught woman really well, and the way she is behaving would make sense considering what she has just learned. Also surprised at just how much involvement Kay had in that storyline, particularly the romantic involvement with Brent. What I’d love to know is - did there end up being any confrontation scene between Ashley and Dina once she had recovered from her amnesia? ETA: also interesting to see Nikki’s jealousy of Ashley start to come to the fore when Victor mentions Ashley’s invitation to the Torchlight Club. The quadrangle is kicking into gear...

Actually, speaking of chemistry, is it just me, or were they testing something at one point between John Abbott and Lindsay Welles? Some of the glances they shared with each other in some scenes seemed to indicate as such.

One thing I just noticed in the latest 1985 clips... it seems they played up the mystery as to the identity of which Abbott child Brent Davis fathered (the flashbacks seen always referred to “the child” rather than by name directly), and not actually revealing who the child was until later into the storyline. There is a snippet of a reveal where Brent tells Kay which child he fathered, but again it is unsure whether he referred to Ashley directly, or if it was insinuated. I wonder if any of the more knowledgeable historians could fill any blanks here.

So 63a in the vault has pretty much all the Christmas 1984 episode where Kay drunkenly crashes the Abbott dinner party. That whole scene was played beautifully - it’s worth watching just for Brenda Dickson’s facial expressions alone. Even the looks exchanged between Jack, Jill, Dina and Liz just said so many words. One other thing I found amusing about that episode - that must be the only time I’ve ever seen Dina and Traci have any interaction whatsoever, and it felt so weird seeing that. I know they would share more scenes together in subsequent years, but it seems that any interaction Dina had with her children back then was limited to Jack and Ashley. ETA: Btw, 1985 clips have started. We’re now seeing the Brent Davis storyline ramp up, which I’m quite excited about. I’ve only ever seen the March 1985 episode where Brent confronts Ashley in the garage, but never any of the storyline either side, so this is exciting for me.

This should be goooooood...

Oh I dunno, that scene of Victor & Ashley at Gina’s from September-October 1984 had some great dynamic and chemistry to it, and certainly Ashley was intrigued by Victor. But at the time she still had her thing going with Marc Mergeron, so she wouldn’t see anything beyond that yet. From what I’ve read, they wouldn’t become closer until March-April 1985 after Ashley has her breakdown re Brent Davis (which btw I hope gets uploaded in the clips) and Victor brings her back to the ranch to recuperate, which of course sets off Nikki’s jealousy and her trajectory towards Jack. The build for V&A is there and is somewhat realistic, albeit quicker than V&N. Nevertheless it is one of the factors of Y&R getting to #1 several times during the mid-80s, so Bill Bell was doing something right.

Jill’s falling off the ladder was well done. There was purpose behind it, certainly, but she was definitely freaked out by something - almost like she thought the child was demonic, judging from how she reacted in her vision prior to climbing the ladder.

“A source”. And kinda not surprising it’s Swan again. Access journalist if ever there was one (notwithstanding THAT Trump interview).

Victor & Jack scenes at Gina’s are in 61a. And it’s a fascinating exchange between the two.

It may have, but as part of some completely different storyline. My reasoning is that Terry Lester’s departure in September 1989 was very sudden, so I imagine there was a lot of planned storyline and scripts that had to be hastily rewritten to account for Jack’s departure. When Peter Bergman arrived two months later, Jack’s eventual marriage to Nikki was written as part of Jack’s ultimate plan of revenge against Victor, which he had concocted whilst he was away travelling. For that reason, I don’t think it was the initial intention to have TL’s Jack marry Nikki. YMMV though.

Robin Eisenman is actually doing a decent job here as substitute Nikki. Granted I can’t help but wonder what MTS would have been like in those scenes, but we obviously know that she and Terry Lester had amazing chemistry later on down the line.

Watching some more 1984, and can I just say... Marc Mergeron in just speedos! 🔥🔥🔥

That’s what we said about Dina when she made her initial entrance (way too Dynasty). And if our benefactor is highlighting the Victor/Nikki/Ashley clips in this storyline up till now, then I would suspect we will see just about *everything*, including Victor and Jack.