DramatistDreamer

LOL, Nathan Lane in that Cheetos commercial (18:00), on the March 2, 1984 episode. And that awkward dinner party with John's reaction to drinking wine, lol. The music cues haven't aged very well. Nevermind that it's obvious that TPTB were determined to use that Giorgio Moroder music as often as possible but that weird music cue when Margo tells Lyla about Craig's involvement with the fire right before commercial break. Whatever happened to The Refuge? Ironically, (or not) another one of Steve's buildings would go up in flames a few short years later, the house at Ruxton Hills. EDT. That November 1984 episode was compelling, from start to finish. I don't remember ever seeing that episode, perhaps a few courtroom clips. The sound mixing could have been better. I'm glad that someone decided to take it down a bit in terms of the thunder in the courtroom scenes because the loudness of the thunder was really distracting, although I wished someone had thought to do the same with the sound mixing during the Lucinda and Lily scenes where the sounds of thunder were still entirely too loud. I appreciated the juxtaposition of the elation of Steve and Betsy and Maggie and Frank at Maggie winning her case and Steve's case being dismissed with the anguish in the McColls and Connors families. It's downright ironic that Lucinda is the one urging Lily never to keep secrets. I wonder how far ahead did Elizabeth Hubbard know that Lily was adopted. Did she yet know in those scenes with Lucy Deakins?

I just realized that Craig spent a whole lotta time in the hospital between the years of 1984-1987. I spent at least a full day or two in the hospital every year between 1984-1987! That situation between Lyla, Frank and Maggie seems deeply messy. I was very distracted by the music in the restaurant/cafe, was that a Sheena Easton song? Thanks @victoria foxton these don't look like they've ever been uploaded to YouTube before! At least, not that I've seen.

That did cross my mind more than once as I listened to the podcast, especially as she mentioned that her husband commented that she couldn't honestly go back to that place after. If not her, I'm sure there has to be some #MeToo stories in daytime soaps. Surprised we've only heard one or two accounts. And harassment is not always physical, it can be emotional and psychological. It is an abuse of power and at the risk of reading too much into a podcast, given what we've heard about Goutman, he definitely fits the profile of someone who lorded and abused his power over others, namely actors who he probably considered subordinate to him.

U.S. is on track to become Japan in 5-4-3-2...

The theory that the virus will dissipate in warmer weather is just that for now, a theory based on previous flu epidemics and SARS, which is from a similar strain as the coronavirus. It has yet to be proven that the spread with diminish by April, but we hope.

On the subject of wanting to stay alive.

And he strikes me as the type who would use manipulation and psychological warfare to try to bring "talent" "to heel", especially someone who he thinks is asserting his or her value like a confident vet might wont to do (common in contract negotiations). I could see Goutman regarding the "talent" as being 'uppity' or acting above their station. Goutman comes from a director background, and I don't know how many people have worked with directors, especially the ones behind the screen (as opposed to the stage where the dynamic is vastly different) but screen directors are known to have huge egos and tend to exercise them and the worst of the bunch tend to lord their authority over 'the talent'.

Oh, Goutman's over-inflated ego and reputation is well documented but it seems as though he said/did something that went beyond the pale because Byrne mentioned that what began as a contract dispute morphed into a situation that made it impossible for her to return to the show as long as he was there. It's just striking how, as she talked about (even by her own words she described her words as being "cryptic") her leaving, even though she was trying to keep her emotions contained and was mostly successful at it, one could still hear the emotions bubbling under the surface. I was surprised at how, even after a decade, you could tell how deeply she still felt affected by it. Also, I found it very interesting that with other actors on the show who had felt offended by Goutman (Scott Bryce and Eileen Fulton), they were very specific in offering details about what happened (Scott's firing and Eileen's marginalization) but Martha made it a point to offer only vague but pointed remarks as if she really wanted to talk about it but felt the specifics would be better left unsaid. Whatever it was, I suspect it was something more than just garden-variety disregard.

I just finished listening and that was so funny that Lucy Deakins got the part over her for two roles! Byrne also auditioned for The Boy Who Could Fly from what I heard in the podcast. Interesting how she said that Marland originally wanted Holden and Emily to be the "it" couple before seeing Martha and Jon interact in story. She confirmed what I always suspected with Marland that he placed characters/actors in positions and made decisions based on how they interacted with one another. You can literally see this happening with the case of Frannie and Casey and Lyla scenes. I'd love to hear podcasts with other former actors from the show to get their take on whether they believed their characters were going in one direction and then started to turn in another direction when it came to a pairing. That stuff about Shannon briefly being considered for Lily's mother is kind of wild but from what I remember, Shannon was pretty thick with Dusty and Lily and had some brief intrigue with Lucinda but ended being a red herring in the mystery of who was responsible for the mysterious phone calls to Lucinda. I am now more curious than ever as to what specifically happened that made Bryne feel as if the situation at ATWT was so untenable that she gave them the deuces once and for all. It really sounds bad.

Gayle has been too long doing the newsmagazine gig, her journalistic instincts have dulled but Isn't Nora O'Donnell supposed to be the hard-boiled newsperson? Isn't she on the evening news? I can't think of one debate this season where the moderators truly asked pertinent questions that led to any enlightening moments. Just a grab-bag of mostly messy made-for-TV moments. Something that should be concern for those who care, Apparently South Carolina allows 'open primaries' so a number of Republicans claim that they plan to vote in the Democratic primary just to vote for Bernie Sanders. Not good. Yes, and it is most definitely because Republicans believe that Trump would be Bernie.

Interesting but I was thinking more along the lines of a TV/streaming show, not a podcast. Something like Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee maybe even go to other parts of the world and talk to former child stars there. I remember Netflix had a documentary on a group of South America's most famous child stars who were in a music group and searched to find out out what happened to them. I mentioned Culkin because of his status of one of the world's most famous child stars at one time and the fact that, from an interview with him that I recently read, he's obviously still processing what that all meant. JMO but it could be fascinating to see him connect and interview others who were once in a similar position.

While watching another clip on this particular YouTube channel, I came across this one with Nick Scotti, where he is a guest host on Fox After Breakfast (ironically, a show I have some past knowledge of) where he talks about his then new movie Kiss Me Guido, among other topics and mentions his Y&R days. What a beautiful man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB321HgD2u4

I agree with all of this. And facing the possibility of going to prison for life is legit something to cry about. If American Psycho had been written and adapted into a film the early 80s, Bryce would've been perfect for that Christian Bale role, 😬 Am I the only one who is curious about what happened to the child actor who played Andy in this episode? Macaulay Culkin is doing all of these podcasts about all these random topics but what he needs to be doing is hosting a show looking for what happened to these various child actors, from the well known to the obscure. Kind of like a Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee type of series but with former child stars.

Y'all- Cenk would probably be the top pick for Secretary of Labor in a Sanders administration. SMH.

🤷🏾‍♀️ Probably pray that it goes away by then. Chinese officials told the W.H.O. that they believed the infections would crest by April but the numbers have not declined, only slowed since then. Italian bureaucracy is a total mess, so it's any guess what the Roman municipal government will do. The ITF had better take charge of this.

People will say that Bernie can kiss Florida goodbye but the same can probably be said of New Jersey at this point.

Long past time for tennis to build a comprehensive plan to protect players, ballkids, staff and spectators from the coronavirus. Indian Wells, where viral outbreaks have been known to happen in the past is particularly of concern.

What that Carole Myers tweet tells me is what I've already figured out in Iowa: voters lost interest in this primary race and are not coming out as they ought to. The U.S. has always had a problem with turnout but this presidential primary season seems especially bad for the numbers. I have my thoughts on why I think that is (and it would be observational speculation on my part, tbh). Suffice it to say, that I knew enthusiasm had dulled when the Culinary Union refused to endorse any of the current candidates. At this point, I don't think Biden can take the black vote for granted. I don't think any of the candidates can take the black vote for granted. In addition to Bernie, the fact that Bloomberg seems to be suddenly picking up so many endorsements among various prominent figures across different political persuasions should be a cause for concern, imo. I hope I'm wrong but so much lacks promise about this election season so far. I really hope I'm wrong.

I enjoyed them too. I thought early Mindy and Rusty were very cute together.

OMG.

JMO but I think that Joe Biden should cease from doing this type of things. If people start putting this in the context of the other times he's done it, he could be further inflicting damage to his own campaign, far more than his opponents past and present could inflict. This seems totally unnecessary.

This has been known for years. I don't know why it never got discussed in larger circles, other than the fact that there is no will for it in mainstream media. Bernie's lack of ability to fund raise for other candidates never gets discussed, nor the fact that Obama campaigned for him when Obama barely got in the Senate yet Bernie never returned the favor. Democrats need to seriously think about how bad Bernie would be for candidates down the ballot and how vital it is for Democrats to maintain the House and take the Senate. If Democrats allow someone incapable of lifting other candidates on the ballot, they're dumber than within the realm of imagination. Say what you will about Biden, Warren...most of the other candidates in the race have all raised quite a bit of money for other candidates in Congress. Hell, Kamala Harris raised a sh*t ton of money for others, while nobody could be bothered to return the favor. I'm still waiting to hear when Bernie has done this for anyone but himself.

Since Bernie often looks like he can fall out at any moment, I gather that the Russians would rather he go up against their preferred candidate in the general election.