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I always thought it was interesting that Ginger instinctively knew to have Kenny give the baby to Karen at the end of The Aftermath. Kenny hesitated but Ginger insisted and had a look that showed she knew that holding the baby would be the ticket to getting Karen to let out her pent up emotions. Those little moments are what made KL so rich in those early seasons...and it gave Ginger a moment that showed she was smarter than people gave her credit for. Always a shame the writers never drew on her Gingers backstory.

My theory on why the show made Dawn the one with AIDS was to show public that it could happen to anyone. Not just a drug dealer, or other characters that the audience would have deemed as expecting to see have it. Still..it would have had more impact if it was a main character viewers knew (i.e. Robin on GH in the 90s).

Actually Erica is kind of like Estee Lauder. She, like Erica, grew up in working class while dreaming of being an actress, famous and being around wealthy men. She ended up co founding her own cosmetics company with the help of a wealthy husband.

Karma...now he knows how some viewers feel about him..and I imagine some of the panelists as well lol

Season 3 of KL always interested me because they had continuing threads arcs (Karen dealing with widowhood post Sid, Abby/Gary/Val, Richard/Laura's marriage issues with Scooter in the background, while Kenny/Ginger dealing with a newborn plus her wanting to break into singing)...while there were interesting standalone episodes (3 sisters was interesting..but I feel it should have been episode 9 instead of episode 10 because how Abby was acting in 3 sisters toward Val would have led to her first subtle move to get Gary in the Rose and Briar episode. @DRW50I liked the Ginger being stalked episode and revealing her backstory about her abortion..plus her tense relationship with her mom. I wish the writers could have used that history in season 3 when she became a mom instead of the music aspect. Also, I wish Val could have been mixed on Ginger having the abortion given her own backstory. Would she have sympathized with Ginger, been a bit resentful that she willingly opted to not have a child, etc. Also, I co sign on liking Val's relationships with Abby and Laura better. Seeing lots of Val/Abby friendship scenes in season 2 and 1st half of season 3 really made the affair between Gary/Abby more impactful. Also, Abby was the one to tell Val her babies were alive, and had told Gary that he had to be honest with Val that they weren't married anymore when Val had her mental block. She didn't coddle Val. Laura also didn't coddle Val...in fact, she was the one to tell Gary not to lead Val on...hence why Gary married Abby...to show Val that their marriage was over

Where is everyone watching this? Private message me?

Only one I could think of was Taylor's dad Jack. The show did have a triangle between all three for awhile in 1992 to 1994... but other then that, no.

She's an alcoholic so he clammed up. Not surprising

RHOA: Drew... sweet Drew... never go up against Sheree. She's more lethal than Nene is, and keeps her cool better as well. And Sheree was dragging Drew on Twitter as well. Drew truly is the Teddi of RHOA

I see guys in speedos all the time...and if you can pull it off..brava. YR Another set I liked was Nina's 1st apartment on YR after she became a widow. It had an interesting staircase and I recall it being pink? I also liked Danny and Christine's apartment when it had an elevator as the door. Lastly, my mom when she was alive liked the Williams living room especially when Mary would lean against the fireplace mantle and sigh with worry. AW: I liked Tops

She probably was killed off because Bradley Bell didn't understand subtext...which the actress infused into Aly.

When Pam left...it threw off the balance because deep down..the show was JR vs Pam. It was never the main focus but was an undercurrent throughout the early to mid years. Between 1987 and 1991, there wasn't that undercurrent despite the show trying to position Sue Ellen in that role in her final season. Also, Erica was a lead...but one of many leads on the show. Most of her interactions with cast members made sense for the most part.

And one of the fallouts with Marty's role in the Billy story was that when she was gang raped by the frat brothers...her credibility was questioned due to her past history of lying...and it led to a 'wait until dark ' cat and mouse story between Todd and his attorney Nora (who got him off partly due to using Marty's past history against her in the trial).

rhobh: 8 is too many. Drop Rinna and Dorit.

Loving Murders was well plotted and really delved into some history with Gwyn. She'd given up a baby for adoption only for him to end up dead, she loves Curtis yet couldn't help him escape his demons, and Trisha/Gwyn had a tense relationship going back to 1984. So when Trisha 'died' she went into grief refusing to accept it, she also ended up pregnant only to lose the baby...and once she learned Trisha was alive, she had hope only for her to be rejected thus causing her to go over the edge. The Loving Murders worked because it used backstory and history....but the Nursery rhyme stalker didn't work because it didn't make sense for Holly to do all that.

Back when 1987 and 1988 were on AW...when Jason first came on, he had scenes with Nicole where he was hinting about knowing her mom and looked at her with interest. It wasn't sexual/romantic..but it was creepy. However, with Depriest leaving and the writers strike..that was abandoned. So when she killed him in 1989, it seemed full circle their interactions. I'm not sure who plotted it. It was shortly after Lemay's brief return as head writer so it might have been in his plans. If so, Swajeski did a good job implementing it.

One thing I liked that Bill Bell did was showcase the difficult relationships Stephanie had with both of her daughters. The reasons behind the friction were completely different. Stephanie viewed Kristen as competition since she had a close relationship with Eric...and she viewed Kristen as frigid..complete opposite of Stephanie at that age. It seemed as if a lot of that was dropped months into the show. With Felicia,the reason they had issues was because both were alike. Both headstrong, rebellious, driven and stubborn. It was a more typical mother/daughter relationship..imho. Had Brad Bell been handwriter in those early years..he would have not provided depth to show how the friction differed between the two mother/daughter relationships.

I do recall it mentioned that money from her family bankrolled the business. I always figured she handled the business aspect while Eric handled the creative. In regards to their kids: Thorne usually handled the supply chain and orders/logistics..I assume. Ridge was a designer and had a sexual vibe to his designs that clashed with Eric's more timeless approach. Felicia was the free spirit, whose designs didn't fit at Forrester's..and her working at Spectra was never developed. Rebel daughter working for the enemy. Kristen was a designer, but I often thought she only went into that because of her father..not because she had the talent or passion. I always thought she would have worked better as a model/spokesperson. And out of all the Logans, Donna made the most sense being in the fashion world with her modeling, and later getting a taste of the publishing world. I have a feeling her getting an offer to work at Spencer Publications in early 1991 by Bill (done to stick it to Margo) would have been pursued had the original Donna opted to renew her contract. I often have thought Heather Tom should have been Donna instead of Katie. In fact, a lot of Katie's stories in the 2000s/2010s seemed to be more Donna stories (going by the foundation laid out by Bill Bell in the early years)

Of course Gina would deny it...she's probably not allowed to say yay or nay till filming commences. Emily not being demoted makes sense...she's married, her husband has fans/naysayers, her family life was atypical, can pot stir, and can make fun of herself. Dr Jen is a mystery. I always have put her in the category of 'would have made a good housewife in the early seasons' back before drama was a thing on these shows. In fact, she and Ryne offer an interesting role reversal where he's a house husband and she's the bread winner. And the way she has trouble with alcohol, I don't blame him for checking out. She also talks down to him where I'm rooting for him to divorce her. If the roles are were reversed and he was talking down to her...social media would be telling her to dump him Gretchen without Tamra would be interesting..to be honest.

RHOC: Rumors for season 17 are surfacing with Gina being demoted, a former cast member coming back (not Tamra), and 2 new girls being tested with June/July being when filming starts. Not sure if true..we shall see.

RC was good on AMC in the late 80s/early 90s as Skye. But the show wrote her as her own worst enemy rather than a romantic lead. Since AW, soaps have tried to cast her in a romantic lead and it never works (though I think she fit better on OLTL then GH as Skye).

I think Eva is a good addition to RHUGT...you need someone more lowkey on a show with 7 plastic looking train wrecks. And maybe she'll contribute...Cynthia certainly did on season 1 of it.

Also, JFP called Jess Walton when she got to Y & R to come back after she had basically all but quit.

Dark Shadows: I liked the Evan's cottage..it had that artist vibe to it. Guiding Light: I liked some of the restaurant sets like Company, Blue Orchid, Diner, and I even liked Millennium. As the world turns: Mona Lisa Bold and the Beautiful: I liked the original Logan house set with the living room and kitchen. Y & R Gina's Abbott Mansion Victor's, then later Diane's, penthouse.

RHOC I love how Heather pimps her kids LGBTQ+ out in order to become more likable.. and is upset over her kids being bullied... yet she's the biggest bully of them all.