BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread

[janea4old]

Episode #62 Thurs May 29 US, Dani arrived at the bar at closing time and used her Dupree name to request that the bartender serve her even though it was past closing time.  Then Doug walked in and Dani convinced the bartender to serve him too.  They were both drowning their sorrows, and the scene switched to Vanessa/Joey having sex on the card table.

Then no followup.  Did Dani and Doug talk? Or... ? Where did Doug go?
When the next episode started, it was the next day and Dani was meeting with Pamela, and Pamela arranged for some hot guy to date Dani, but Dani wasn't interested. 

[Taoboi]

Agree. The catfights at the clothing store alone...lol.

 

That's how I feel about Teresa as well. Cheryl I feel seems to blend much better with Sara's breakdowns, but I definitely love her dialogue no matter who she is with. 

They also forget replies about missing plot points and theories about why they might be missing so...

 

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

Oh how that scene lives rent free in my head and when it pops up online I will always watch. 

[GLATWT88]

Hold on...Hayley is supposed to be only 3 years older than Chelsea??? This show stay messing with me and these ages. 

[Taoboi]

Now coming into June...well...

 

I knew it was coming but I didn't like the start to the next round of Dani/Bill/Hayley. As the 3 A plots from the start of the show (The SilkPress storyline and Martin's Secret being the other two), it needed to be benched for a while to develop those characters and allow other characters and storylines to grow. 3 months in, Hayley is the weak link, Dani is still divisive, but not boring, and Bill has been making his mark with some plots faster than others. So last week seeing the story starting to loop back around to them with Hayley's potential pregnancy, I honestly had mixed feelings.

 

I get it. The SilkPress storyline is currently in aftermath/next turn mode, so it has to be moved into a C plot position. Moreso if we want to keep the very talented Miss Trish around. And I love how clever the writers are being with the storyline. They give us enough in the episodes and are still playing out beats to keep the appetite fed. I don't feel like anyone is being dumbed down to keep her around. And Trish is giving nuances in her alone scenes with NuTed. I shouldn't care for a clear psycho, but she be selling it. That said...I wish they had given us a little more of the Martin's Secret storyline in the last week of the month though I loved the game of cat and mouse Bill did on Martin and Smitty to keep the storyline alive and active after it had a nice build beginning of May and vanished for a week mid-May. And it appears like it's about to go back to the backburner as an A plot which of course leaves the A plot of Dani/Bill/Hayley.

 

I am probably in the minority as someone who is not anti-Dani here and even she annoyed the heck out of me last week. In character true, but I just felt like there was a way to get all of that across without it feeling like...as I've said before...one step forward, two steps back...and have it feel organic. I liked Hayley got a little bit of edge with her, but she still ain't no match for Dani. And it reminds to be seen if we should be going back to that well of a story yet.

 

Now about today's show...

 

And I thought Tracy was bad! lol. But YES. Sharon has been worth the wait. And so has Anita's story! Finally having TT in the limelight. This has been a nice slow burn for me and a nice B plot. And the actress is good. The wig is giving. And her holding what Anita's secret is over her head and threatening to tell Vernon....Ooooo...that is what I was waiting for. 

 

And speaking of bad...I thought Eva vs Kat was a great rivalry. But I am loving the rivalry that is growing with 'Nancy Drew' and Silk Press Sheila! They both get good licks in and are so cunning with each other. And I definitely have liked that since the anniversary party, that it has been growing. Now that Kat has been proven right, she has not backed down. And neither has SilkPress. And we got a 'Ms. B@tch' moment, too? LOVE. Eva coming up with a trump card was delicious and so 90s Sami Brady. GOOD. And the coda with Jacob and the expert...YES. The Silk Press storyline has been the best paced on the show so I love that the aftermath of the anniversary party continues to be so...barring one flaw...well for me. Not enough Nicole's POV.

 

And I like the C plots on display. And by that, I mean Chelsea with Vernon. And it made me wonder what the writers have plan for her love life now that the throuple is over with. I was watching her and going awww.

 

And of course the mystery man around Martin. I am starting to wonder if he really even works at the country club given how he made a run for it. That would be a twist. 

 

Speaking of Martin...good to see him in scenes with his father and mother. 

 

I'm getting used to NuTed. 

 

I felt the last episode of May was a bit of a letdown, but this was a very nice recovery.

[Alan]

Seeing Nicole and Martin together reminds me of watching Alice with Mickey Horton in the 90s and 00s. The seem more like peers than mother and son. 

The younger half of the cast (35ish and below) is playing younger, and the older half (35+) is playing older. 

[Alan]

When she first appeared, I was sure she was setting Tyrell up for a prank. She was too much of a manic pixie dream girl- I wasn't surprised Tyrell also became suspicious. Now I'm not so sure. If Jessica genuinely likes Tyrell, it seems like a missed opportunity to not have started her out as a bully, then we see her gradually catch feelings for Tyrell. 

The McBrides are definitely the "C" family of BTG. They always get last priority. There have been a few times where the Doug/Vanessa/Joey characters reference off screen conversations which seem too important to not show us. Like when Doug thanked Joey for giving him extra time to pay off the loan. When did that happen? Or when we abruptly moved from Vanessa/Joey at Uptown to Vanessa/Doug in the hotel room. The McBrides don't even have their own set - even though Vanessa is a realtor. It's a shame because I am a fan of the characters and actors. 

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I am also adjusting to KR as Ted but I feel that AM and MJ had way more chemistry as father and daughter than AM and KR. We saw Eva dream of having a real relationship with MJ's version of Ted for months so it's a bit of a bummer not to have that payoff with the original actor except for those scenes in MJ's last episode. 

Something I noticed about Eva today is how she takes genuine delight in being a schemer. As badly as she wants to be a Richardson, she still has so much of her mom in her. It was jarring seeing her earnestly promise to steer clear of Leslie in her scene with Ted, then immediately switch attitudes when her mom showed up. 

I'm very surprised with how quickly the accident story has been moving along. I was sure that it would be months if not years before people figured out it was Leslie on the motorcycle, not to mention responsible for the potassium overdose. I'm looking forward to seeing how MVJ and Guza avoid writing Leslie into a corner. 

Finally, I have been loving the Articulettes story. Bonita Brisker was just the right amount of OTT - remember Sharon is supposed to be even more angry than Tracy is. If Sharon didn't come in swinging, people would say she fell flat. The way Sharon and Tracy describe the breakup is so Supremes-meet-Original Recipe Destiny's Child. I get the sense that MVJ is re-writing the Return to Love Tour as a roman a clef, and I love it. I'm looking forward to finding out what the secret they share is. If Dante Green is as shady as Berry Gordy was, it's something dark. If/when they go through with the reunion, I expect Dante to show up and claim to own the Articulettes trademark in a Lou Pearlman-esque twist. 

[janea4old]

So far, Canada has been one day ahead for six episodes.
@Toups @Errol  any official word on this?

MVJ commented to a viewer on twitter:

 

from @iammskye1
I demand to be put in the same schedule with the Canadian #BeyondTheGates viewers. If that means dropping us two episodes in one day, one aired live and one on streaming, do what you gotta do, lol. They ain’t bout to be out here outdoing us.
 

Michele Val Jean @MicheleValJean
June 2, 2025
I hate this too. It really screws with the way we construct reveals if one batch of viewers is ahead of the rest. Very frustrating. #BeyondThe Gates #BTG
https://x.com/MicheleValJean/status/1929742526107603321

 

from @iammskye1 
Thank you for acknowledging our pain.

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Michele Val Jean @MicheleValJean
June 2, 2025
And then there are spoilers and it really does spoil the reveal for those who haven’t seen it yet. sigh. #thanklessjob #BeyondTheGates #BTG
https://x.com/MicheleValJean/status/1929744253829501104

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Edited Tuesday at 02:07 PM by janea4old

[Chris B]

I hope they're able to fix it. I understand Canada has a specific deal with Y&R but if they don't have that with BTG, they should fix it. It sucked having Anita's secret spoiled without any warning. I don't want the same for Martin's secret or other future twists.

[Cheap21]

I hate that this sexual harassment at Bill's firm is still an ongoing storyline. I wish that had ended with the settlement

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YAY! Our favorite new duo is on. DanaLeslieSherryAnnaLuluNicole wants to sue Kat for defamation of character for slandering her good name! LOL

[janea4old]

That made me laugh so hard!

[Liberty City]

Writers:
Sara A. Bibel
Danielle Paige

Director:
Steven Williford

[Cheap21]

Get her Hayley! Im so proud of my little hoe. Step into your villian era like the queen bitch I know you can be

Edited Tuesday at 06:25 PM by Cheap21

[janea4old]

Ashley "I know I must sound a little Gwyneth"  LOL

[Cheap21]

 

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Ashley just gave our resident psycho attitude. Kill her!

[janea4old]

The old letter that Anita is silently reading.
The voice we hear must be the voice of the writer of the letter talking to "Nita".

[The closed-captioning says her name at the start of her voice.]

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Name behind spoiler tag for those who don't want to know yet.

a fourth Articulette?  who was actually the first Articulette?

Edited Tuesday at 06:41 PM by janea4old