25 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Honestly, SORASing is one thing.  It's not like Sami/EJ really crossed paths when he was a baby.  At most, Sami might have met him a few times at Marlena's or John's in passing.  It's a crazy amount of SORASing in EJ's case but it didn't necessarily throw me off as much especially with Kristen/Susan off canvas when EJ was first introduced.

Brady and Kristen had an established relationship.  He was old enough to remember Kristen being with his dad, living with her, her actively trying to be a mother figure to him, and the fact John/Kristen were getting married.  None of this really bothers me now, but the context of Brady/Kristen's previous relationship makes it much more skeevy than just weird SORASing.

That's true.

They've forgotten more significant parts of history so I'm willing to ignore it too if the story's worth it. 

I think of EJ as John's son for the first 6 months of his life. J&M weren't together yet but Kristen had to push him away from her fake belly for months. Then they raised him together.

Now he's Sami's stepdad and she's given him grandkids with the guy who used to be his son.

Kristen was gone when EJ was reintroduced but she's always been my favorite so those things stuck out to me at the time. Plus the extreme SORAS, the rape...

Edited January 19, 20223 yr by KLN

2 hours ago, KLN said:

I'm available! 😄

Haha so am I! I have a lot of story ideas for Days 😂

2 hours ago, KLN said:

If you constantly break your own rules nothing means anything. Sami could drive a stake through Marlena's heart tomorrow and I'd be like, "Cool, it's probably Orpheus in a Sami mask and Marlena's a clone. We'll find her on an island next month." Then Rolf would bring the clone back and we're back to square one.

That's why I feel it's impossible ever to fix this show.  Because, how do you fix a show that is just so damaged?

Wait! What? Will is older than EJ? No wonder Will kept calling Sami a whore. @DRW50

1 hour ago, KLN said:

That's true.

They've forgotten more significant parts of history so I guess I'm willing to ignore it too if the story is worth it. 

I think of EJ as John's son for the first 6 months of his life. J&M weren't together yet but Kristen had to push him away from her fake belly for months. Then they raised him together.

Now he's Sami's stepdad and she's given him grandkids with the guy who used to be his son.

That combined with the extreme SORAS and rape made Sami/EJ weird to me. 

That's true.  I don't think John himself mourned John Jr/EJ as his son for very long.   He had a few moments, but was basically too busy getting back with Marlena at that point.  A lot of EJ's backstory makes 0 sense, but he was off screen for so long it's easier for me to accept.  Although why they didn't just make him some other Stefano unknown child is beyond me.  Only on very rare occasions do they mention the John/EJ/Kristen connection as well.  It is weird, don't get me wrong, and one of the worst cases of SORASing on all of soaps easily.

I feel like (especially recently with Eileen) the audience is reminded a lot more often of John/Kristen's relationship and connection, so her with Brady is icky.  With Stacey as Kristen I don't feel that history and bond with Drake/John the way I do with Eileen, so I would say that works better even if ED/EM have better chemistry.

Honestly, both couples are equally weird lol

12 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Wait! What? Will is older than EJ? No wonder Will kept calling Sami a whore. @DRW50

Will was born in Nov. 1995, EJ in Feb. 1997.

Edited January 19, 20223 yr by carolineg

Just now, carolineg said:

Honestly, both couples are equally weird lol

Well, I guess it wouldn't be DAYS without the wildly inappropriate relationships.

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

Well, I guess it wouldn't be DAYS without the wildly inappropriate relationships.

True, outside of Tom/Alice the main supercouples on the show have all been presumed dead, have had multiple personalities, been brainwashed, murdered people in the past etc.  It's not like any popular pairing on this show is normal or even your garden variety soap couple.  Julie did marry her mother's husband, so it's not like Brady's moves are unprecedented.

13 minutes ago, carolineg said:

 

Will was born in Nov. 1995, EJ in Feb. 1997.

Interesting that now Will is older than Sonny. Maybe Sonny is EJ in a mask.😂

I didn't start watching days until 2010 after ATWT was cancelled. I tuned in to see Will story with Chad. I remember everyone saying they were going to get together and that Will was gay. Will and Chad never hooked up and Chad was recast.

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

That's why I feel it's impossible ever to fix this show.  Because, how do you fix a show that is just so damaged?

That’s my main reason why I can’t watch this show. The actors and scriptwriters can put out episodes with great performances and wit, but if nothing is of consequence, what’s the point? Ron writes DAYS as a silly sitcom, where you just enjoy the comedy for 30 minutes (or however long) and forget about it or just appreciate the actors camping it up. And that can be enjoyable but it’s not why I personally watch soaps.

38 minutes ago, Khan said:

That's why I feel it's impossible ever to fix this show.  Because, how do you fix a show that is just so damaged?

100% This statement is so true.

40 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

100% This statement is so true.

I actually watched a tiny bit - never seen more than 5 minutes or so of Days...ever.  But I watched a tiny bit one day when I knew Marlena was possessed...and saw her with her hands around the guy's throat (John???) - at a mausoleum.  Seemed pretty powerful this Devil.  That was all I saw...then a couple days later had it on after the Noon news and saw she was still going to kill him.  At the mausoleum with her hand around his throat.  I thought...um, is this the Devil?  Why isn't he dead yet?  LOLLL.  She's just going to talk about it?  So several weeks later I had it on again after the news and they did the exorcism I guess.  During it Marlena said "Is THAT the BEST you've GOT!???"  So I thought, oh, well I don't know why everyone is still alive if she's possessed and so dangerous...but she'll just fake being 'exorcised' and this isn't really it or whatever.  Then it was over and I read I guess she's all better?

I thought about that...and her saying "Is THAT the best you've GOT!??"  Well, I thought...if anyone was a daily viewer or a fan and this went on for....how long?  And they did this before in the 90's or whatever....and then that was it for the scene and the Devil???  Everyone should be saying that right now....Is THAT the best you've GOT?? LOLLL.  Not a fan or a watcher but that was my take on it from passing by.  

15 hours ago, Vee said:

I am more inclined to agree with @KLN that Ron needs a co-HW - he is on brand for this show but needs someone to rein him in, his ego aside. Unfortunately, I think they installed him with Sheri Anderson, maybe the best possible living choice, and WTF happened to her? Where did she go?

Isnt Ryan Quan still Co-HW? I thought he was

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

A lot of EJ's backstory makes 0 sense, but he was off screen for so long it's easier for me to accept.  Although why they didn't just make him some other Stefano unknown child is beyond me.  Only on very rare occasions do they mention the John/EJ/Kristen connection as well.  It is weird, don't get me wrong, and one of the worst cases of SORASing on all of soaps easily.

With Stacey as Kristen I don't feel that history and bond with Drake/John the way I do with Eileen, so I would say that works better even if ED/EM have better chemistry.

I think the reason they SORASed EJ is because they (stupidly) never intended to bring Kristen back.

Not reintroducing her sooner was a mistake.

Edited January 19, 20223 yr by KLN

I have been liking the Steve/Kayla scenes though. It reminds me of an 80s adventure 

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Interesting that now Will is older than Sonny. Maybe Sonny is EJ in a mask.😂

What’s funny is that Sonny is supposed to be older than Brady and Belle 😂😂

16 hours ago, Vee said:

I am more inclined to agree with @KLN that Ron needs a co-HW - he is on brand for this show but needs someone to rein him in, his ego aside. Unfortunately, I think they installed him with Sheri Anderson, maybe the best possible living choice, and WTF happened to her? Where did she go?

 

1 hour ago, John said:

Isnt Ryan Quan still Co-HW? I thought he was

 

For those asking about Sheri Anderson and Ryan Quan:

Previous Headwriter team (all equal)
-Dena Higley 8/19/15-7/18/17
Equal Headwriters with Dena:
-Josh Griffith  8/19/15-9/2/16
-Ryan Quan  9/6/16-7/18/17
-Beth Milstein  2/22/16-9/2/16
….(Beth Milstein was added as third equal Headwriter while Dena was on medical leave)

---------------

Current Headwriter:
-Ron Carlivati  7/19/17-Present
Story Consultants:
-Sheri Anderson  7/19/17-1/7/19                                
-Ryan Quan 7/19/17-Present

(Sheri Anderson  also served as a dialog writer 12/21/18-3/15/19)

Source:
https://www.jason47.com/days/staffdatabase.htmla

Edited January 19, 20223 yr by janea4old