1 minute ago, pdm1974 said:

At this point, I only have Y&R on in the background while I eat lunch sometimes. It's been so dreadly boring for so long now. It just feels like nothing really ever happens.

Curious to hear what other's think...does anyone find all these corporate stories interesting? I'm not sure why the writers think viewers are excited about who's going to run ChanceComm or whatever. I couldn't care less about these boardroom stories. Do people really watch soaps to hear about these people fight over control over these mystery companies...companies we don't even know what they really do!

I think they feel like they are honoring real Y&R. It used to be a great way to have all sorts of dissimilar characters mixing it up, working in different roles that highlighted different sides of characters (Dru modeling, Ashley in the lab), backstabbing, and forming alliances. But they’re no longer able to properly dramatize these stories. Jabot doesn’t even have a set.

Most of the business happens at lunch, which ok. But it’s a lot of tell and no show.

Every plot wraps up like an Afterschool Special.

4 minutes ago, slick jones said:

Every plot wraps up like an Afterschool Special.

It really does feel like they’re leaning into a light, family-friendly vibe. Like the viewers are too delicate for anything heavy. I’m glad we didn’t get a Devon/Abby custody battle—that wouldn’t have done anyone any good—but this show will tease a bit of explosive potential drama, then immediately defuse it.

14 minutes ago, slick jones said:

Every plot wraps up like an Afterschool Special.

I've seen better plots wrapped up on an episode of Degrassi than this show in the last three years. 

23 minutes ago, slick jones said:

LOL...sums up this show completely.

Next week...Who will run ChanceComm next?! Exciting!

I'm still confused as to how they sped away so fast from SSM's "boring, nothing happens" version of the show yet have been firmly planted in this infinitely more dreadful zone for so long.

6 hours ago, pdm1974 said:

Curious to hear what other's think...does anyone find all these corporate stories interesting? I'm not sure why the writers think viewers are excited about who's going to run ChanceComm or whatever. I couldn't care less about these boardroom stories. Do people really watch soaps to hear about these people fight over control over these mystery companies...companies we don't even know what they really do!

In the past, when Y&R was still run by competent people, their corporate storylines, typically revolving around Jabot and Newman Enterprises, were the most riveting, because they knew that the more specific they were, the bigger the stakes for everyone involved.

On 1/20/2022 at 12:08 PM, Faulkner said:

Another dead kid for Devon. It could all have been avoided. No reason to have dragged him into this.

They really need to do a better job at demonstrating Chance’s trauma. It’s been a characterization/story/acting fail.

 

Chance is joining the ranks of Y&R male characters who are characterized by their man pain. That's how you know that TPTB are invested. He's another Billy and Adam. Same characters. 

Edited January 22, 20223 yr by ajsp35801

So when Mariah finds out they're giving Devon custody after they banished her she'll just forgive them all, right?

3 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

So when Mariah finds out they're giving Devon custody after they banished her she'll just forgive them all, right?

Tessa and Mariah just got engaged and plan to adopt a child.  I think (hope) the show is finally bringing Tessa/Mariah away from the dreadful Dominic storyline.

Edited January 23, 20223 yr by janea4old

Mariah carried the child for 9 months and went through a traumatic kidnapping that resulted in a unplanned 'home' birth. she bravely tried to self care and protect 'Bowie'

Her subsequent attachment to the child was pretty much condemned by all concerned and she had to shape up quicksmart.

Meanwhile Devon makes a quickie deposit (what? maybe 20 mins depending on the porn at hand)and yet he's allowed access and custody because his feels are more important.

Devon needs to chat with Chelsea and Adam .They both have kids (Johnny and Christian) that they couldn't give a toss about.

Those two are going to grow up and be like-

My mom/dad was living in town and regularly crossed path with  my 'parents' (Billy and Nick)and had no interested in having anything to do with me, but were full on parents to their other kid (Connor).

 

Edited January 23, 20223 yr by Paul Raven

18 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Mariah carried the child for 9 months and went through a traumatic kidnapping that resulted in a unplanned 'home' birth. she bravely tried to self care and protect 'Bowie'

Her subsequent attachment to the child was pretty much condemned by all concerned and she had to shape up quicksmart.

Meanwhile Devon makes a quickie deposit (what? maybe 20 mins depending on the porn at hand)and yet he's allowed access and custody because his feels are more important.

Devon needs to chat with Chelsea and Adam .They both have kids (Johnny and Christian) that they couldn't give a toss about.

Those two are going to grow up and be like-

My mom/dad was living in town and regularly crossed path with  my 'parents' (Billy and Nick)and had no interested in having anything to do with me, but were full on parents to their other kid (Connor).

 

I totally forgot Christian is actually Adam’s kid. I’m sure the show has forgotten too.

19 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Devon needs to chat with Chelsea and Adam .They both have kids (Johnny and Christian) that they couldn't give a toss about.

Johnny is Victoria's son in every way that matters.  Chelsea contributed genetic material via raping Billy.  Chelsea is NOT Johnny's mother.  I feel very strongly about this!  Chelsea should NEVER have any claim on Johnny.  Never.

Christian is a different story.  His mother Sage wanted Adam to not claim fatherhood, so that she could have a relationship with Nick.  Or some such convoluted mess. They made this agreement, and the whole thing came out later, and Nick found out later, and they all continued to honor Sage's wishes after she died, and everyone agreed to keep Christian as Adam's nephew.  It's odd but I think it's okay.

Edited January 24, 20223 yr by janea4old

46 minutes ago, janea4old said:

Chelsea should NEVER have any claim on Johnny.  Never.

But is it not something that should be explored or even mentioned?

Mariah and Devon have both been given a voice regarding their parental feelings but not a wimper from Chelsea. Is Johhny aware that he has a bio mom-who was married to his uncle? Surely Johnny and Connor would interact at family birthdays and such?