Members DRW50 Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 It's a shame, because they said that Craig was genuinely very attracted to Nancy, IIRC. I'm never a fan of that type of stunt. The latest, disastrous, version is on the flop Sex and the City revival. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmaster Errol Posted January 14, 2022 Webmaster Share Posted January 14, 2022 A former co-worker of mine married his wife, had a kid and they were married for 20 years. He's now happily married to a black man and they've been together for many years. His son is WAY taller than him (around 6'6 to his dad's 6' or 6'1), and hot AF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoria foxton Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) I loved that Nancy was unapologetic about her weight. And that Craig was attracted to Nancy. Please register in order to view this content Edited January 14, 2022 by victoria foxton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members janea4old Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 I wonder if @Errol means this as a general spoiler hint? or is this related to Craig/Nancy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmaster Errol Posted January 14, 2022 Webmaster Share Posted January 14, 2022 Steve deserved better on SATC and deserves better on AJLT. I watched about 20 minutes of the revival and had to turn it off. Not the show I grew up with, particularly from a structural standpoint. You'll have to tune in to find out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) Yeah it happens. I was once upon a time attracted to a female. We would talk on the phone for hours. I could've seen myself marrying her and having children too. Unfortunately things didn't work out. Edited January 14, 2022 by Soapsuds 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlexElizabeth Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 I've seen speculation that someone (Ava?) wears a Sarah mask. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 I understand the impulse. And if it was a different situation I might be more for it, since Kevin Spirtas has been flamingly gay for decades. But the Craig/Nancy thing was wish fulfillment for a segment of the audience and I think it's a shame to take that away from them. Nobody needed to make David Vickers gay on OLTL because I think most of us assume David was already omnisexual and would sleep with anything; why not simply do the same thing with Craig? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 This is one of the reasons I am reacting as vehemently about it. I definitely remember this and it makes it doubly offensive to "vindicate" this kind of gross thinking. Their love story was incredibly positive representation - for characters that were not particularly likeable. I have no objection to such a story being told. Pick any of the dozens of other straight men that have come through the show over the past thirty years to bring back and do that with. I have a strong objection to it being told for a character whose portrayer is, oh look at that what a coincidence, one of the few out gay men on daytime. Let's not be naive about why they'd go there with Craig who has not been around in years, of all people, if the rumor is true. It is because KS is gay. We have had VERY few out gay men on daytime and if they keep retconning their characters as gay, what message does that send? And the Philip storyline was offensive for a gazillion reasons more than just the gay thing, we agree there. But the fact Philip was all of sudden supposed to have been closeted when nothing had suggested as much was solely down to TB being gay. And I stand by my anger at it. Gay men can portray straight characters and not put in a box of only being able to play gay characters. And it is gross that when the number of out gay men on daytime is still fingers of one hand high, this would turn into a pattern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) I will say this about 'retconning characters to be gay': I'd do a Far From Heaven story with both Michael and Kevin on Y&R turning out to be gay and/or bi (probably Michael being bi and Kevin gay) in an instant. It doesn't destroy the audience's memories of the good times with Michael and Lauren but it is a more honest accounting. Edited January 14, 2022 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) I feel one of the reasons you might feel that way is that Michael/Lauren has been stuck on below-neutral for ten years and none of the pairings Kevin have been in have ever worked. I hear that. But I stand against it on principle - it sends a terrible message. If ALL the gay men on daytime were out, and this would be a small sample, I'd unclench my buttcheeks and accept some creative leeways (and it could be fun in a vacuum for those characters and as Soapsuds said it does happen in real life). But when we have four or five and it has already been done once, it feels intentional and wrong to me. It vindicates EXACTLY why all these actors stay in the closet: because they are terrified of being typecast in that way. And I want more people to be out and comfortable and the audience getting to see them do all kinds of roles. In a world where sexuality is irrelevant to an actor's career and success, by all means, retcon away. Not in daytime in 2022, sad as it may be. Edited January 14, 2022 by FrenchBug82 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoria foxton Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 I just frankly think that as CLB has got campier and campier the pairing has seemed like more and more of a farce. I think you can tell a sensitive storyline about a bisexual Michael coming out late in life without dishonoring the couple. It's not like they're doing anything else! And it would definitely make the latter-day Michael more interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members dio Posted January 14, 2022 Members Share Posted January 14, 2022 i'm telling y'all now, this is why Leo's coming back and will be on contract - to be Craig's love interest. But at the same time, I could see Craig being involved in some sort of affair with Sonny... lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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