This screams Patrick and Sam from GH.

On 7/13/2020 at 11:18 AM, carolineg said:

 

Not even sure Guza cared much about him in the 90's?  He has and always will be a pesky road block for Sonny.  Jax's character has never really developed outside being a white knight.  IR is lucky he had chemistry with VM and Laura Wright because he would basically be a footnote without it.  IR gets the leftovers while Mo gets GH built around him.  His politics aside, IR was almost as popular as MB in the 90's but has basically gotten B stories since 1998.

2010 was actually the first time Guza wrote S&B as an actual bonafide couple, if you think about it. 1994-1995 was Labine.

 

During his first stint in 1996, Sonny was with Lily and Brenda was with Jax. S&B had longing moments, but they weren't together that year. I seem to remember Jax's first wife that also had a history with Mac (who he somehow knew from Australia) was suppose to be a Cassadine, but none of this was further explored after Guza left.

 

Guza was gone most of 1997 to do Sunset Beach. This was the year of S&B cave sex and subsequent reunion along with Tinman.

 

Guza came back in time to write Sonny leaving Brenda at the alter, and Brenda's subsequent breakdown. Guza also wrote Brenda's 1998 reunion with Jax up through her death.

 

Then when VM returned in 2002, Guza reunited her with Jax and the fake marriage to Jason. S&B didn't have much going on during this time aside from the amazing grace montage and the goodbye kiss on the docks when she was leaving.

 

And I feel like he only put them back together in 2010 because he wanted to do the Dante triangle/reveal that got axed. 

Edited September 1, 20205 yr by ghfan89

8 hours ago, ghfan89 said:

2010 was actually the first time Guza wrote S&B as an actual bonafide couple, if you think about it. 1994-1995 was Labine.

 

During his first stint in 1996, Sonny was with Lily and Brenda was with Jax. S&B had longing moments, but they weren't together that year. I seem to remember Jax's first wife that also had a history with Mac (who he somehow knew from Australia) was suppose to be a Cassadine, but none of this was further explored after Guza left.

 

Guza was gone most of 1997 to do Sunset Beach. This was the year of S&B cave sex and subsequent reunion along with Tinman.

 

Guza came back in time to write Sonny leaving Brenda at the alter, and Brenda's subsequent breakdown. Guza also wrote Brenda's 1998 reunion with Jax up through her death.

 

Then when VM returned in 2002, Guza reunited her with Jax and the fake marriage to Jason. S&B didn't have much going on during this time aside from the amazing grace montage and the goodbye kiss on the docks when she was leaving.

 

And I feel like he only put them back together in 2010 because he wanted to do the Dante triangle/reveal that got axed. 

 

I'm pretty sure Guza only put S&B together because that was what VM wanted and it's part of how they got her to return.  I think Dante/Brenda/Sonny was the ultimate goal, so he put S&B together in the most half-assed way possible.  Even though Guza didn't write for them together very much previously, he still wrote a lot of important material for them in the 90's and should have done better in 2010, but that's a different topic.

 

I guess my point is outside Brenda/Jax/Sonny or Sonny vs. Jax, I never got the impression Guza was interested in Jax as a character or truly developed him past white knight/good guy status.  Guza may have preferred Jax/Brenda to Sonny/Brenda but I never got the vibe that he cared much about Jax besides that.  Jax has basically been relegated to the same role the last 25 years: get a girl that's connected to Sonny, make Sonny mad, girl leaves Jax for Sonny/Jason.  I guess this Nina thing is slightly different because she's not connected to Sonny, but she's still more in love with someone else. 

Stephen Hamill and Galen Henderson from All My Children. 

 

Couple: "We're engaged!"

Residents of Pine Valley: "Did you even have a scene together before?"

 

The writers coupled them and shipped them off because they had no more story for them.  They were also bland characters.

Edited September 1, 20205 yr by Jonathan

Pretty much every couple on B&B other than maybe ridge and Brooke.  Brad Bell doesn’t know what to do with any character unless he’s constantly marrying and divorcing and marrying and annulling and marrying the next day.  

AMC

Cliff and Angie

 

AW

Cass and Donna 

 

Y&R

Cane and Traci

4 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Y&R

Cane and Traci

Have Lily and Traci ever addressed this at all?

 

Jack and Gloria on Y&R definitely was a head-scratcher. 

Nikki and AHHHHHTOROHHHHHH on Y&R.  Donna and Eric on B&B....they've never known what to do with Donna - throwaway character.  Again, pretty much everyone on B&B.  Quinn and Liam who she hated supposedly and then kidnaps and beds him.  Her son's brother.  LOL.  Thomas has been paired with anyone and everyone because he's a throwaway character.  Caroline, Zoe, Hope - probably missing someone.  Get rid of him and leave him gone.  Young Caroline and Ridge made no sense so that she could hold his hand and teach him to draw instead of him going to physical therapy.  B&B is really so bad.  

I don't think this ever happened, but SOD teased GH's Felicia and Ned back in 2002 or so. This was after his previous love interest, Kristina (sister of Alexis), had been killed off.

They also seemed to chem test Felicia and Scotty in late 1987, right when he returned to Port Charles, apparently before it was decided to take those two in other directions.

14 minutes ago, Franko said:

They also seemed to chem test Felicia and Scotty in late 1987, right when he returned to Port Charles, apparently before it was decided to take those two in other directions.

 

Now that might have been interesting.

22 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

Now that might have been interesting.

Agreed. For better or for worse, though, they ended up going with Felicia and Colton and a brief reprise of Bobbie and Scotty before Lucy and Scotty.

16 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

I don't think this ever happened, but SOD teased GH's Felicia and Ned back in 2002 or so. This was after his previous love interest, Kristina (sister of Alexis), had been killed off.

In 2004, Ned did try to charm Felicia when he figured out that Felicia had been appointed the judge in the competition over who would get Lila's inheritance. I believe she saw right through him and eliminated him from the contest lol. At the time some people thought it may have been a chem test but it went no further.

DAYS: Jennifer and Brandon. 
 

(I really liked Brandon with Sami, but his subsequent pairing with Jennifer did not work.)

9 hours ago, Dion said:

In 2004, Ned did try to charm Felicia when he figured out that Felicia had been appointed the judge in the competition over who would get Lila's inheritance. I believe she saw right through him and eliminated him from the contest lol. At the time some people thought it may have been a chem test but it went no further.

 

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2020 at 4:19 PM, amybrickwallace said:

I don't think this ever happened, but SOD teased GH's Felicia and Ned back in 2002 or so. This was after his previous love interest, Kristina (sister of Alexis), had been killed off.

 

For some reason, I am kind of intrigued by Ned/Felicia.  I think it could have worked?  They both are fairly charismatic and have the ability to generate chemistry with most of their love interests.   I wouldn't be against it.  

 

But I literally can't think of anything in 2002 that indicated Ned/Felicia at all.  Ned was pushed back into the Alexis/Dobson/Kristina mess and Felicia was with Roy.   But I think a lot of things were pushed in 2002 when they secured VM and it was all Brenda/Jason/Jax/Sonny/Carly etc all the time.