12 hours ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

Episode from 1998-06-30 completely cut out all of Tony and Grace's scenes to keep the other scenes uncut.

Again it was kept intact when reaired in 2013. Is there that many more commercial airtime in the last seven years?

15 hours ago, kalbir said:

JW won Lead Actress in 1997; I think she submitted episodes where Jill was a suspect in Victor's shooting. The Chancellor estate party was September 1998. Jeanne Cooper got a Lead Actress nomination in 1999 for the Chancellor estate battle story.

 

Victor and Nikki had four weddings that I remember: Colonnade Room 1984, Genoa City Memorial Hospital 1998, Colonnade Room 2002, Newman Ranch 2013.

 

Wow that's it? That's actually pretty amazing that it was only 4 times. I really thought it was more than 5 lol. Although they were together more times than that just didnt get married to each other every time

Nikki, Ashley (that wig...) and Victoria's highlighter yellow hair in this 2002 episode is bothering me so much.

 

I hate what they did to Olivia in this story. Your best friend is battling cancer so you sleep with her husband. That's not even in her character. Her wig in this episode is also tragic.

 

Cassie was always such an oddly written child. How old is she here? 10? What 10 year old says something like "I thought you had something on your mind, mom." Like what? Camryn Grimes is a cutie though. Killing Cassie to keep Nick and Sharon "young" was a huge mistake, it's just allowed the characters to continue acting like teenagers for 15 years.

 

What was Phyllis pissy about at the wedding? I'm guessing her scenes with Jack were excised.

 

I've always thought inter-cutting Victor and Nikki's vows with Ashley admitting Victor is Abby's father was masterful. The story is icky and offensive but they rung every drop of drama possible out of it. That's what I miss most about Y&R, they would hit every beat no matter how long it took.

Edited May 9, 20205 yr by Darn

2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Again it was kept intact when reaired in 2013. Is there that many more commercial airtime in the last seven years?

There's virtually no difference in airtime allowance from 2013 to today, but the cuts from the 2013 are far more noticeable than the one that just reaired since a lot of the lines were quickly spliced together (or just cut completely), and the pacing as a result of the cuts just seemed far more unnatural than the one aired in 2020.

 

1 hour ago, Darn said:

What was Phyllis pissy about at the wedding? I'm guessing her scenes with Jack were excised.

 

This was around the time Diane and Phyllis had been feuding, and I believe Diane had set fire to the Jabot pool house and wanted to frame Phyllis for it. Phyllis' lack of engagement in this episode gave viewers the impression that she had something to do with this.

1 hour ago, Darn said:

Nikki, Ashley (that wig...) and Victoria's highlighter yellow hair in this 2002 episode is bothering me so much.

 

I hate what they did to Olivia in this story. Your best friend is battling cancer so you sleep with her husband. That's not even in her character. Her wig in this episode is also tragic.

 

Cassie was always such an oddly written child. How old is she here? 10? What 10 year old says something like "I thought you had something on your mind, mom." Like what? Camryn Grimes is a cutie though. Killing Cassie to keep Nick and Sharon "young" was a huge mistake, it's just allowed the characters to continue acting like teenagers for 15 years.

 

What was Phyllis pissy about at the wedding? I'm guessing her scenes with Jack were excised.

 

I've always thought inter-cutting Victor and Nikki's vows with Ashley admitting Victor is Abby's father was masterful. The story is icky and offensive but they rung every drop of drama possible out of it. That's what I miss most about Y&R, they would hit every beat no matter how long it took.

 

I missed the second half of the episode as I do everyday because of the stupid mayor of Philly wait......Olivia was sleeping with Brad? Or Ashley was sleeping with Malcolm? I did watch the show during this era but I dont remember that story.

53 minutes ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

This was around the time Diane and Phyllis had been feuding, and I believe Diane had set fire to the Jabot pool house and wanted to frame Phyllis for it. Phyllis' lack of engagement in this episode gave viewers the impression that she had something to do with this.

 

Ah, thank you.

 

Just now, Michele Soap Writer said:

I missed the second half of the episode as I do everyday because of the stupid mayor of Philly wait......Olivia was sleeping with Brad? Or Ashley was sleeping with Malcolm? I did watch the show during this era but I dont remember that story.

 

Olivia slept with Brad. She was upset (I guess? I can't remember her motivation well) that Ashley was lying to Brad about Abby's paternity.

2 hours ago, Darn said:

 

Ah, thank you.

 

 

Olivia slept with Brad. She was upset (I guess? I can't remember her motivation well) that Ashley was lying to Brad about Abby's paternity.

 

 

You're right, doesnt sound at all like something Olivia would do and that is a lame excuse even if it was something that she would do

All that Barbie yellow hair.

 

When I saw Ashley... yikes!

 

As time has gone on, I think killing Cassie was just as bad as Maureen on GL.  We should have seen her grown up and react to just how awful her parents were at times.  Instead we skipped having her as a teen so Sharon and Nick could seem eternally 29.  Having kids never stopped Victor and Nikki from being a mess.

On 5/9/2020 at 1:18 AM, soapfan770 said:

The bad thing about it is that for Heinle’s first year she did try and was given some meaty material but by the time Latham took over we had Victoria’s sudden transition to sanithood for a hot minute. I can understand that Heinle was not entirely suited for what HT Victoria’s role meant but that didn’t also mean turning her into a complete pea brain who pops babies every few years. The other weird thing is Heinle has completely proven she can be icy and cool yet the writing still wants us to believe she’s a beloved heroine. It’s a combination of both, although why Heinle hasn’t been replaced so long ago is a mystery even to Heinle herself LOL.

When Sussman had her as a cold hearted bitch at Newman and feuding with Ashley, Heinle did great and then they just turned her into a heroine again, it was mind boggling.

19 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

When Sussman had her as a cold hearted bitch at Newman and feuding with Ashley, Heinle did great and then they just turned her into a heroine again, it was mind boggling.

 

I did enjoy for a hot minute when Victoria claimed she was done with men after Travis (?) left her. But then only a few months later she was with JT.

40 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

When Sussman had her as a cold hearted bitch at Newman and feuding with Ashley, Heinle did great and then they just turned her into a heroine again, it was mind boggling.

If they had any sense, they would have seen her sparking on screen during that time and just allowed her to own her villainy. Just make her a cold, cruel, and vindictive (yet pathetic and human) Cersei Lannister type. An heiress thirsty for the throne and willing to do anything to protect her inheritance. But that would force them to rethink their “best-laid plans” for their idea of what Y&R looks like. As the eldest daughter of Victor, they see her as a leading lady full stop, and she must be likable/rootable. (Maybe they feel like a woman with Victor’s claws would be a turnoff?) They must have had data that shows audiences like her the way she is, and I’m sure the popular Billy Miller pairing earned her a lot of goodwill. How else to explain why she’s been thrusted in our faces for so long?

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1 hour ago, Darn said:

 

I did enjoy for a hot minute when Victoria claimed she was done with men after Travis (?) left her. But then only a few months later she was with JT.

 

 

Well this is a soap! No character can stay single or celibate for long! Even one month's time without being with anyone else is really long in soap world! lol

Alex Donnelly sort of looks like she could be Michael Mealor’s mother, with their endearing mouths. Shame that Y&R destroyed Diane so shortsightedly. Her absence is deeply felt.

God this 1998 episode looks so gorgeous in 2020 it really hold up well.

 

Why did Katherine’s attic have tarantulas and rats LOL. What the hell was going up there.

Esther and Kay's off-screen staff did a shitty job maintaining her mansion!