Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

 

It's not so much about getting "reinfected" as it is about reactivating the virus.  Rather than assuming that someone who is no longer ill is totally virus-free, I think people should be looking at the possibility of having a virus go dormant or go into remission, the way an autoimmune disease might do.

Of course, since COVID-19 has proved to be something of a 'moving target' with new symptoms and mutations being discovered on an almost daily basis, we should all just admit that no one yet has complete understanding of what we're dealing with. Don't give people false hope or false facts.  As is the case with HIV, just show/educate people on how to determine their risk factor and how to protect themselves.  Obviously there is no magic formula.

 

 

This may not allay fears for a long time, but every town, city and municipality must begin with meticulous cleaning of public spaces on a schedule.  Most public spaces that I've ever been in every country has been quite filthy. There are exceptions but they are usually that...exceptions.

Touchless technology will need to become the norm. The act of pressing buttons on an ATM machine at a bank or supermarket checkout needs to become a thing of the past. Public restrooms need to retrofit so that all dispense with the need to touch anything. I've been to places like this but those were rare spaces.

Theaters and stadiums that allow spectators may very well be among the last places to open.  Hey, if you or someone you know are the last drive-in movie lot owners, then expect a windfall as this is probably a great time to own a drive-in movie theater!

 

 

There is a study released out of Yale that saliva produces more accurate test results for coronavirus than nasal swabs. This may actually take some of the fear/reluctance out of testing.  Like I said before, testing and knowing one's status is likely the key to curbing/lowering the spread.

 

Let's all just hope that the next mutation will involved a much weaker, far less contagious, and less deadly coronavirus.

COVID-19, in particular, needs to mutate into nothingness.  A wish, I know.

Edited April 25, 2020 by DramatistDreamer

[victoria foxton]

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by victoria foxton

[Juliajms]

Yeah and a case of wishful thinking too. I've definitely been hoping it was true, but all along experts have been warning it might not be. Some people just refuse to listen and rely on science.

Edited April 25, 2020 by Juliajms

[Juliajms]

There is also the possibility of effective therapeutics/antivirals.  We have tamiflu for the flu. They will eventually come up with something for this.

 

Notice a lot of these experts seem to think this will follow the pattern of the flu and be with us seasonally for a long time to come.  The flu doesn't really disappear in summer after all, it just isn't as prevalent.

 

Would it surprise any of us if we come up with a vaccine that is similar to the flu vaccine in the sense that they have to figure it out every year and it's often only 40-70% effective? Then we have the people who are either anti vaxx or just too lazy to go get it.  We should make these vaccines (and the flu one) free and easy to get as soon as they become available too. I doubt we will though because socialism is bad.

I'm not sure what to think on this topic. When you look at the projected number of people who are going to starve thanks to this plague the numbers are pretty grim. I mean world wide, not the US. I feel like all we can do is rely on experts to figure it out. It's not like the US will help these people in any case as long as 45 is in charge.

[Huntress]

Big changes in Germany: As from tomorrow, everyone (except small children) must wear a face mask when using public transport and inside every store. This rule becomes effective in all 16 German states.
In some states, you will be fined between 10 and 150 Euros if you get caught without a mask.

 

The government wants to introduce a Corona Tracing App soon but since data protection has always been a big issue here, many people are opposed to the app.

 

Even though the number of cases has decreased steadily, there's still fear of a second wave hitting the country – especially after most shops were allowed to re-open last week. I guess we'll know in 14 days.

[Faulkner]

More on the sharp increase of people dying at home:

 

 

[DramatistDreamer]

 

In the NYC metro tri-state area, it is mandatory to wear masks in public spaces.

 

I'm not sure whether you've seen this article but the comments about the "prevention paradox" and worries about a second wave of infection in regards to opening up from a lockdown are interesting.

 

 

By the way, this man was one of the people who discovered, tracked and advised on the SARS pandemic, so he has a considerable range of knowledge on the matter.

His insights on the possibility of having other coronaviruses that protect against COVID-19 is an intriguing one.

[DramatistDreamer]

This administration is exactly who many of us thought they were. Their response to every single crisis and situation bears this out. Greedy. Covetous. Gluttonous. Cruel. Complicit in rampant fraud and misdeeds.

 

 

[DramatistDreamer]

Shocked, shocked, I tell ya!

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Remember when Trump asked black people "What the hell do you have to lose?!" This is but one example.

 

[DRW50]

 

[Khan]

Yeah, they've pretty much ruined "YMCA" for all time.

 

I figured the whole Paycheck Protection Program was a flat-out scam, so I'm not surprised to learn most small businesses have been shut out, or that this disproportionally affects businesses owned by minorities and women.  I'm just so tired of the GOP's blatant disrespect of everyone who isn't white and rich and old.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Khan

[DRW50]

 

[victoria foxton]

 

 

 

     

Edited April 27, 2020 by victoria foxton

[Faulkner]

 

[Soapsuds]

Texas will open up movie theaters, restaurants, department stores and libraries at 25% capacity or less on Friday.  If things go well on may 18 the capacity will be raised to 50%.