3 hours ago, dragonflies said:

How is Ben Weston's ridiculous? He's still being redeemed and it's not like everyone in town loves him unlike Franco on GH so to speak

 

 

Because there was no reason to redeem him and it's ridiculous to have Ciara falling for the guy who was thought to have murdered her cousin and tried to set on fire her other cousin whether the characters are close or interact or not, not to mention the people he actually did kill. I don't even buy this psychotic break or whatever the show is saying he had. Ben was pretty calculated and knew exactly what he was doing.

As I read the topic the first name that came to mind is John Black.  He was a trained assassin and although he is also a jewel thief from Alamania who may have been Tony's brother or a monk, he came to Salem believing that he had betrayed his friend and his country.

 

BTW, I would watch a week of episodes of John Black at the Salem DMV trying to get a driver's license and having to explain his backstory.

 

My second nominee would be Anna Devaine who wore a fake scar on her face to atone for her treason and child abandonment. 

Edited December 6, 20187 yr by j swift

On 12/5/2018 at 7:40 PM, titan1978 said:

Correct me if I’m wrong but he did kill several people.  Brutally.  Including strangling Will.  Brutally.

 

i get it, he has charisma and he is very attractive.  But this is ridiculous.

 

Although, Stefano killed a few people in his day...

 

Did Stefano ever kill anyone who wasn't also bad or a day player? I can't recall one death.

1 hour ago, koos said:

 

Did Stefano ever kill anyone who wasn't also bad or a day player? I can't recall one death.

Wayne’s Roman.

Relevant to our discussion to all of the Ben groupies among DAYS fans. How connected is this phenomenon to female viewers screaming “Rape me, Todd!” to Roger Howarth in the ‘90s?

 

 

 

Isn’t Kate rich?? Why the hell does she live in a hotel room?

On 12/7/2018 at 4:47 PM, titan1978 said:

Wayne’s Roman.

 

But obviously, he didn't die. Did Stefano actually kill anyone? He ordered assassinations from time to time, I believe. Usually a nothing character.

4 hours ago, koos said:

 

But obviously, he didn't die. Did Stefano actually kill anyone? He ordered assassinations from time to time, I believe. Usually a nothing character.

 

I think the biggest character he had actually killed off was Curtis Reed, but that was about it. That and maybe Faux Rafe. Other than that, his biggest crimes where usually emotional torture(as in "let them think so and so is dead and I'll act as the grand chess master"). 

Edited December 23, 20186 yr by soapfan770

Other than B&B’s Quinn and Y&R’s Phyllis, what other women characters fit the bill? Seems like writers tend to redeem male characters more often.

I thought Stefano was behind the Raven Feather killings, but I could be wrong.

18 hours ago, Khan said:

I thought Stefano was behind the Raven Feather killings, but I could be wrong.

 

Yes and no. Stefano had wanted to use Andre to frame Roman as the Salem Slasher and let Andre knock off random prostitutes and make sure Marlena saw him do it wearing a Roman mask but Andre had his own agenda. Hence Stefano was beyond PISSED when he realized Andre WAS the real killer and was  behind Renee’s and Trista’s murders.

Edited December 23, 20186 yr by soapfan770

3 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

 

Yes and no. Stefano had wanted to use Andre to frame Roman as the Salem Slasher and let Andre knock off random prostitutes and make sure Marlena saw him do it wearing a Roman mask but Andre had his own agenda. Hence Stefano was beyond PISSED when he realized Andre WAS the real killer and was  behind Renee’s and Trista’s murders.

 

Stefano giving Andre a pass for killing two of his children is unforgivable and more boneheaded than just about anything else on the show, ever.

On 12/5/2018 at 10:30 PM, j swift said:

BTW, I would watch a week of episodes of John Black at the Salem DMV trying to get a driver's license and having to explain his backstory.

 

So would I. Pass the popcorn. 🍿

On 12/23/2018 at 9:08 PM, koos said:

 

Stefano giving Andre a pass for killing two of his children is unforgivable and more boneheaded than just about anything else on the show, ever.

 

Which other child of Stefano’s did Andre kill besides Renee?

1 hour ago, BillBauer said:

 

Which other child of Stefano’s did Andre kill besides Renee?

 

Benjy Hawk, and he was responsible for why Lexie died.