Y&R: September 2017 Discussion Thread

[edgeofnik]

 

MMM-HMM. Well said.

 

I want the show to be great, but I'd settle for pretty good. Unless I'm visiting my mom and she has it on, I honestly don't miss it. The recaps are just not compelling enough to draw me back in. Same with B&B.

 

I'm sure part of it has been streaming (binge-watching) shows like Reign, Quantico and Voyager during the past few months - all those shows managed to successfully write strong women - I look at the SSM era of exceptionally weak and thirsty women who can't do anything without the acceptance, approval or insight of a man - and it's like yuk! And I'm a dude!  

[DramatistDreamer]

 

Point!  I just don't see Mal changing the 'weak thirsty women' narrative to anything more progressive but I'm open to him surprising me. I hope he will.

[KMan101]

 

I don't see much changing under Mal either (I mean, he's still been the EP over Sally). I'm with you that I hope he will surprise me, but I'm not holding my breath.

[mango]

 

 

It's tough for me to let go of Y&R. I lost ATWT and had actually given up on it in mid-2008 before it was eventually cancelled. I don't want the same thing to happen to Y&R. It's why I'm hanging on, but barely. I record Y&R each day, but basically power through it on FFWD in about 5 to 10 minutes. The only things sort of keeping my interest are Dina and family, Faith and Sharon (but not Sharon's Cagney and Lacey story) and a little bit of Phyllis. I think it has more to do with actors involved more so than the writing.

 

To be honest, I should just probably take it off the recorder and read the recaps like you guys do. Getting tired sums it up nicely.

 

[DeeeDee]

 

Given the state of the rest of the soaps currently on the air even fairly competent would be acceptable.

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[ajsp35801]

 

I tend to agree. Mal will just add more plot to the stories but I don't expect any character shifts or fundamental changes to how women are written. 

[KMan101]

 

+1

[cassadine1991]

Wonder how were the women written when Mal wrote Brookside and the other UK soaps he oversaw?

[Antoyne]

My partner watches the show with me a bit and he even noted that there haven't really been any big stories or moments as of late.

 

I'm going with Graham is Ashley's brother.

[ajsp35801]

I'm going to say that Graham is Jack and Tracy's bio brother but not Ashley's. Meaning, John is his father but someone else is his mother. 

[MoTheGreat]

 

 

I wonder how Dina & Graham met, if She's not the mother but John is father.

[kalbir]

 

So that means John would've been involved with someone between his marriages to Dina and Jill. When the Abbotts were first introduced, was there any mention of John dating/being involved with anyone after Dina but before Jill?

[DramatistDreamer]

My guess would be that Graham is either Brent Davis' kid or John Abbott's kid, IMO.

[cassadine1991]

I would say he's Brent's

[ajsp35801]

Again, if he's Brent's, then he can't sleep with Ashley. That'd be a waste. Surely Sally didn't plan that poorly.