Just now, allmc2008 said:

They did't use her 'ghost'.  They made it clear Colin put it in the mailbox.

 

You clearly misunderstood what I said. In no way, shape or form did I suggest that the letter got to the mailbox by Katherine's hand. I was talking about the tone in which the letter was written.

5 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

SS has been successfully working those flashbacks though, lol.

 

 

That's all she does. She thinks that makes a story....LOL

54 minutes ago, Darn said:

This trash heap did not bring Katherine back from the dead in order to justify Jill forgiving Colin. How gross.

 

If you ignore the purpose of those scenes and how blatant they are with their agenda it was lovely to see all of those flashbacks. The only watchable parts of today.

 

I didn't get that out of it. I watched Katherine finally come to terms with murdering a man, She could never admit to killing him before. She told Jill she was sorry & validated what Jill has been insisting for years ( that Phillip loved her) to make amends. I thought this episode was excellent, given they had to write it around the crap of the previous writers. It gives both Jill & Katherine closure. The end of a 40 plus year story.

7 minutes ago, cattykittens said:

 

I didn't get that out of it. I watched Katherine finally come to terms with murdering a man, She could never admit to killing him before. She told Jill she was sorry & validated what Jill has been insisting for years ( that Phillip loved her) to make amends. I thought this episode was excellent, given they had to write it around the crap of the previous writers. It gives both Jill & Katherine closure. The end of a 40 plus year story.

Excellent post. 

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

SS has been successfully working those flashbacks though, lol.

 

On one hand, they are trying to somehow resolve the music box storyline which Pratt created and was an absolute mess! On the other hand, I would've left that music box storyline for dead because it was awful to begin with but I guess they are trying to somehow "reform" Colin, although having him sell a precious heirloom that didn't belong to him without Jill's consent doesn't seem the best way to do this.

 

And using  Katherine's ghost to try to somehow coax Jill into 'finding love' with untrustworthy Colin seems a stretch too far....way too far. It actually cheapens Katherine's memory, to me, in a way. 

 

 

It still doesn't make sense that in the same letter Katherine would admit that Phillip always and only loved Jill (which came off as awkwardly written), something that can only be believeable as a last testimonial only made possible with the spectre of sudden death and then want to orchestrate payback from the grave. Seems contradictory at best.

I thought Jean and Shelly were the ones who wrote that music box story?

Visiting my mom means I get to H8 watch Y&R on Pop. Thursday (US) - Good JW and use of flashbacks as long as not road back Colonoscopy. Billy/Chloe. Uncomfortable: the way Nelsea were interacting - especially at bar was 'forced awkwardness' as if Chelsea is an ingenue and Nick a pimply high schooler. Ridiculous considering the number of partners they've each bedded AND that Nick and Chelsea have always been natural friends. 

Best of the H8: Faith! so adorable with her impish coy looks. Sadly, pushing her to that mugging totally discredited enjoyable interactions between Nikki/Faith!/Nick. 

 

As many have said, many of the individual scenes are written with depth and mostly give us a much better sense of the characters than we've seen in a long time. The problem is that it just a bunch of people talking. And honestly, I have no urgency to tune in tomorrow. Not even to find out what fake retcon Sally created based on Katherine's memory. 

1 hour ago, cattykittens said:

 

I didn't get that out of it. I watched Katherine finally come to terms with murdering a man, She could never admit to killing him before. She told Jill she was sorry & validated what Jill has been insisting for years ( that Phillip loved her) to make amends. I thought this episode was excellent, given they had to write it around the crap of the previous writers. It gives both Jill & Katherine closure. The end of a 40 plus year story.

 

All that blathering about "let yourself be loved" was 100% about Colin.

37 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

As many have said, many of the individual scenes are written with depth and mostly give us a much better sense of the characters than we've seen in a long time. The problem is that it just a bunch of people talking. And honestly, I have no urgency to tune in tomorrow. Not even to find out what fake retcon Sally created based on Katherine's memory. 

 

Thank you.

When you give an honest critique that is not rosy, sometimes it seems that some want to make it seem as though that means that the poster wants the show to fail or something, which is, for me, untrue. 

Expressing frustration or wanting the show to improve on certain things actually means you want the show to improve and stay on the air (LOL).

 

When people say 'well, if you don't like it, don't watch', I have a feeling that the producers of Y&R probably wouldn't prefer that happen because if everyone that wasn't completely satisfied with the show stopped watching, Y&R would likely be cancelled, so those people probably shouldn't speak for the show, LOL.

For those who are counting down, we're two weeks away from the annual March Madness break LOL. Mark your calendars, March 16 and 17 (Canadians, March 15 and 16).

3 hours ago, GMac said:

But will they have Jill forgive Colin?  He just sold her inheritance off again...

 

 

 

 

I think Jill will see it as him doing a good thing for her. Watch. 

2 hours ago, Darn said:

 

All that blathering about "let yourself be loved" was 100% about Colin.

 

Which is even worse because Jill has essentially already had this very story with Elliot Hampton.

2 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

As many have said, many of the individual scenes are written with depth and mostly give us a much better sense of the characters than we've seen in a long time. The problem is that it just a bunch of people talking. And honestly, I have no urgency to tune in tomorrow.

 

Yep. And even in the smaller more intimate scenes this regime skips important beats.

 

Kevin feels so close to Scotty that he's willing to put himself in mortal harm to rescure him yet he hasn't mentioned him at all since Scotty disappeared a decade ago?

Devon (who has severe abandonment issues) isn't more traumatized that the wife he is so attached to (despite all of her terrible behavior) is willing to walk out of his life?

The Newmans (who have historically disliked inter-familial relationships) suddenly are perfectly ok with Nick & Chelsea? 

Jack was willing to risk open war with Ashley & Lauren to buy a significant interest in Fenmore's yet was willing to sell it to Jill?

Scotty goes missing yet no one (not Lauren nor Paul nor Michael) tells Cricket?

Cane has no problem with Lily working closely with one of her ex's?

14 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Which is even worse because Jill has essentially already had this very story with Elliot Hampton.

 

Yep. And even in the smaller more intimate scenes this regime skips important beats.

 

Kevin feels so close to Scotty that he's willing to put himself in mortal harm to rescure him yet he hasn't mentioned him at all since Scotty disappeared a decade ago?

Devon (who has severe abandonment issues) isn't more traumatized that the wife he is so attached to (despite all of her terrible behavior) is willing to walk out of his life?

The Newmans (who have historically disliked inter-familial relationships) suddenly are perfectly ok with Nick & Chelsea? 

Jack was willing to risk open war with Ashley & Lauren to buy a significant interest in Fenmore's yet was willing to sell it to Jill?

Scotty goes missing yet no one (not Lauren nor Paul nor Michael) tells Cricket?

Cane has no problem with Lily working closely with one of her ex's?

Christine being absent from Scotty's story is a little odd....I just hope maybe Lauralee was unavailable to film for a lot of those scenes so far...

32 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

 

Kevin feels so close to Scotty that he's willing to put himself in mortal harm to rescure him yet he hasn't mentioned him at all since Scotty disappeared a decade ago?

I didn't even know that they were friends.

 

The purpose of putting Kevin in the story was to finally give Greg Rikkart his gay story by having him sashay in with that scarf around his neck and saying he was ready!

Edited March 3, 20178 yr by Soapsuds

Gosh I tried. Gave it the most part of the past 2 1/2 months, but it is not working. Gotta stop watching again. 

 

5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I didn't even know that they were friends.

 

The purpose of putting Kevin in the story was to finally give Greg Rikkart his gay story by having him sashay in with that scarf around his neck and saying he was ready!

 

I can't with you right now!!!