1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

It might be interesting to see Victor genuinely try to retire or do something else.

In the end, he'll probably want to go back to business even on a part-time basis (maybe remain on the board of directors or something), but to see him make an earnest attempt to step away, play golf (and chuck the golf clubs after he decides he has no patience for the 'damn game') or engage in a pursuit with Nikki, maybe to cheer her up after Dylan's departure leaves her depressed.

It would be funny if he decides he wants to take 'bond' with Nick- (he mentioned how he kind of envied the buddy relationship that Nick and Noah had)- by getting Nick to go on a series of excursions that don't quite work out (he takes Nick fishing only to discover that Victor has no patience for this 'damn thing'). Maybe Nick convinces him that it's alright that they have a different relationship than he has with Noah. Victor, realizing he's from a different generation agrees.

 

In the past, writers have tried (and mostly failed) to give Victor these big, sweeping cathartic storylines (only to have him revert back to type) but in Victor's case, it may actually be okay to do bits here and there, have Victor take his time and come to the decision gradually, while they focus on other characters for awhile.

 

SS is really good at creating those minor moments, delivered in conversations and it may be good to do that and hold off on any grandiose storylines for Victor for awhile, until they find a storyline that makes sense for him. In the meantime, maybe create smaller, more intimate moments for Victor to delve into until he (i.e. SS) decides what Victor's purpose is going to be.

the perfect post. so well said. I would like to see Victor retire. and truly hand the business over. Jack has lost his mind again and seems like all the hard work of him actually maturing and becoming the Abbott John always wanted him to be is gone. 

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

It might be interesting to see Victor genuinely try to retire or do something else.

In the end, he'll probably want to go back to business even on a part-time basis (maybe remain on the board of directors or something), but to see him make an earnest attempt to step away, play golf (and chuck the golf clubs after he decides he has no patience for the 'damn game') or engage in a pursuit with Nikki, maybe to cheer her up after Dylan's departure leaves her depressed.

It would be funny if he decides he wants to take 'bond' with Nick- (he mentioned how he kind of envied the buddy relationship that Nick and Noah had)- by getting Nick to go on a series of excursions that don't quite work out (he takes Nick fishing only to discover that Victor has no patience for this 'damn thing'). Maybe Nick convinces him that it's alright that they have a different relationship than he has with Noah. Victor, realizing he's from a different generation agrees.

 

In the past, writers have tried (and mostly failed) to give Victor these big, sweeping cathartic storylines (only to have him revert back to type) but in Victor's case, it may actually be okay to do bits here and there, have Victor take his time and come to the decision gradually, while they focus on other characters for awhile.

 

SS is really good at creating those minor moments, delivered in conversations and it may be good to do that and hold off on any grandiose storylines for Victor for awhile, until they find a storyline that makes sense for him. In the meantime, maybe create smaller, more intimate moments for Victor to delve into until he (i.e. SS) decides what Victor's purpose is going to be.

 

+1.

2 hours ago, Roman said:

the perfect post. so well said. I would like to see Victor retire. and truly hand the business over. Jack has lost his mind again and seems like all the hard work of him actually maturing and becoming the Abbott John always wanted him to be is gone. 

But would EB be happy with that?

It seems any attempts to reposition Victor offends him as he wants to stay'king of the world' both onscreen and off.

1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

But would EB be happy with that?

It seems any attempts to reposition Victor offends him as he wants to stay'king of the world' both onscreen and off.

 

I agree. I just don't think Braeden is willing to be sidelined like that. 

7 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

 

I agree. I just don't think Braeden is willing to be sidelined like that. 

 

Let him retire then. The show can kill Victor off and do a family war over the company story. 

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Let him retire then. The show can kill Victor off and do a family war over the company story. 

Give him an EastEnders-like exit

2 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Let him retire then. The show can kill Victor off and do a family war over the company story. 

 

I wonder if he'll do it if it's on everyday.

Last friday's dylan and sharon good bye scenes were well done...im giving sussman and company at least six months beforw I rate their reign because theyre tying up pratt's stories, reestablishing and repairing characters, plus slowly coming up with new stories.

 

People would be angry if she had jist dropped his stories without resolving them.  She didnt inherit GC buzz or mariah/hilary fighting..nor chelsea/nick..nor the billy/phyllis/jack mess....so she is doing the best she can to work with these threads..either trying to make them work..or resolving them in a non jarring way.

 

If things are still a mess in june..then either things are so messed up they sre beyond repair..or sussman needs a strong co headwriter to help her out.

 

 

Phyllis the computer genius needs Nick to show her how to use a dating app, K.

 

It was a good show though. Jack and Gloria were hilarious. Sharon and Nikki was really sweet. It's been years since we've seen Nikki be this nice towards Sharon.

Me likey the Phick scenes today (pun intended)

Phick seem like really good friends and former fuckbuddies. That's it.

 

Nick looks even younger with his new haircut. He and Noah look maybe 5 years apart in age. Recast that guy already.

Yeah Nick and Noah feel more like brothers to me. Sharon definitely doesn't look old enough to be his mother either. I love RA though!

Remember when we used to lament that soaps had too many young characters? Nowadays it seems like everyone is 30+ and running on fumes. 

More like 40+...

Ha, very true. I was thinking of Chelsea mostly with that comment, she's a relatively new character and somehow they've exhausted 10+ years of story with her in 5 years. She's used goods. This show needs a culling.