How unfortunate!

Haha…he asked me last night why do we still watch GH?….LOL…..I told him I don't know…lol

Believe me he is not happy at all with GH. He watches it out of pure habit.

He tends to like Y&R so far….

Probably more will come back and tune in though. We'll see, but I expect this to be a ratings winner for the show.

Yeah, I fully intend to start watching. I think it's pretty obvious that the pearl clutching crowd isn't enough to keep a show on the air so screw 'em.

B&B has been inching close & closer towards surpassing Y&R in the ratings, I hope this is the story that finally does it!

B&B has been inching close & closer towards surpassing Y&R in the ratings, I hope this is the story that finally does it!

who is that in your avatar? She has an interesting look. Love her makeup

B&B has been inching close & closer towards surpassing Y&R in the ratings, I hope this is the story that finally does it!

That would be great but I would also love it if it left GH in the dust ratings wise too.

who is that in your avatar? She has an interesting look. Love her makeup

It's Canadian YouTube QUEEN, Superwoman a.k.a Lily. AMD will surely elaborate.

Yeah, I fully intend to start watching. I think it's pretty obvious that the pearl clutching crowd isn't enough to keep a show on the air so screw 'em.

So true. In fact, I'd say they are the ones killing the soaps or at least TPTB past willingness to cater to these people. I may be wrong, but I don't remember people leaving AMC in droves when Zarf/Zoe came along.

So true. In fact, I'd say they are the ones killing the soaps or at least TPTB past willingness to cater to these people. I may be wrong, but I don't remember people leaving AMC in droves when Zarf/Zoe came along.

There was a pretty big backlash cause of how they wrote that whole storyline. Eden tried to sell it, but no one was buying

There was a pretty big backlash cause of how they wrote that whole storyline. Eden tried to sell it, but no one was buying

I remember that. But that wasn't people leaving because they didn't want to see a transgender story line right? It was more that some people didn't think Bianca should be with someone who used to be a guy.

B&B has always been uneven, so I won't be surprised if this goes wrong and people get pissed, but that's not the same to me as people tuning out because their minds are closed to the character.

DeeeDee makes valid points about the inequities for trans actors. They lose roles to better-known cisgender actors who are inevitably celebrated for their transformative transformational performances. The whole, "The part should go to the best actor regardless of ethnicity/gender" thing is a crock of [!@#$%^&*], generally speaking, as it's a great excuse for casting directors and producers to be lazy and superficial and commercial. That said, I have no problem with this character revelation because it wasn't part of the character's creation. I liken it to a reveal about a character's true ethnicity that doesn't reflect that of the actor. While it would bug me seeing a white actor playing a "black" role, I wouldn't be nearly as bothered as I'd be if they were hired to play a biracial/light-skinned character from day one. I think hiring transgender actors to support this storyline is the best, imo obligatory, gesture they can make.

Yes, all of this, exactly.

DeeeDee makes valid points about the inequities for trans actors. They lose roles to better-known cisgender actors who are inevitably celebrated for their transformative transformational performances. The whole, "The part should go to the best actor regardless of ethnicity/gender" thing is a crock of [!@#$%^&*], generally speaking, as it's a great excuse for casting directors and producers to be lazy and superficial and commercial.

That sentiment is certainly used that way by a number of people in the industry and I think that's wrong. But as for the actor and talent issue in and of itself, it's still how I feel and I think it's a cornerstone of the profession. For example, I thought Tom Hanks playing gay in Philadelphia was incredibly important for the times we lived in and for me as a little gay kid growing up. Work like that had a real effect. I didn't come for him because he doesn't suck dick in real life, and I'm not going to do that here with this.

We don't live in a perfect world but we do live in a changing one, and to me, IMO, the way to keep changing it is to keep telling these stories with different people, with different characters, and yes, sometimes, with bankable, marketable stars who can deliver that message to a mass audience and therefore broaden the larger scope for all sorts of actors and talents and stories. I don't think we'd be sitting here talking about a lot of these recent film and TV projects (or soap storylines) happening if not for some of the other performances and films that went mainstream. It's not a perfect solution or a perfect process, but it is an arc of change and it has its own validity. It's just my two cents.

Edited March 20, 201511 yr by Vee

Great post, Vee, and I agree 1000%

Khan, don't pay any mind to Trollkins. It's not worth responding to a brick wall!!!!!!!!

Edited March 20, 201511 yr by slick jones

who is that in your avatar? She has an interesting look. Love her makeup

Yes, as Bright Eyes so perfectly said, that's Queen! MY Queen Lilly Singh! Her vlog channel is where It's really at; Check her out sometime ;'-)

Yes, as Bright Eyes so perfectly said, that's Queen! MY Queen Lilly Singh! Her vlog channel is where It's really at; Check her out sometime ;'-)

You be having the most interesting looking people as your avatar. I still remember that white news anchor thug...lol

There was a pretty big backlash cause of how they wrote that whole storyline. Eden tried to sell it, but no one was buying

Yeah, I'm one of the people who gave up in AMC during that story and that was back when I basically came and went with Eden/Bianca. Usually just having Bianca on screen was enough for me but that whole story just felt wrong. I don't know what their intentions were but it felt like an inauthentic stunt designed to satisfy people who wanted to see Bianca with a man. Zoe/Zarf was one of the only times I ever walked away from AMC when Bianca was on screen.

I'll be honest, I always shy away from discussing trans stories because I'm unsure of the terminology and as someone who's never had to question my gender identity or sexual orientation, the whole phenomenon/syndrome/condition/situation (see what I mean about terminology?) leaves me feeling unsure of how to approach a conversation. But when I see a black actress, cis or not, on a show that for most of its run was one of the whitest, straightest, most vanilla shows in existence, given a chance to tell this kind of story I can't help but be thrilled for how far the genre has come in the last few years.