I wish Y&R would have followed through with Adam being ruthlessly bisexual. That's where the money was at, imo.

I would have liked to see that as well.

For me, both Thursday and Friday were mostly zzzz material. I suppose the only reason I'm watching somewhat consistently is for JH's Adam, GT's Phyllis and Sharon.

Count me as one that hopes "Sage" (ugh) goes away after Adam's reveal. Now that Adam/Gabriel know what happened to his father's company and Victor's involvement, what if Nick or Victoria or Adam himself was the one at the helm of Newman at the time this took place? And I still think that Gabriel isn't really dead, since we didn't actually SEE him die. I hope they aren't planning an Adam vs. Gabriel story.

I've always liked Nick but definitely not digging how he's coming off now.

And yet, he stated in interviews he didn't do bibles or long term story projection. He just wrote the show as he wanted day by day and week by week.

Which explains some of the pace and the strange inconsistencies with some of the stories. It doesn't explain how much he got right and how much his stories did come together as if they were planned out in exacting detail. Except Bell knew his show and his characters, so no matter the story he knew how to use every piece of his show to move story forward.

I do recall him saying that some stories need to be plotted in advance in considerable details while some others (like, say, a romance between two characters) are sometimes best left to develop naturally and organically. In the end, he seemed like the kind of writer who most of the time knew were things were going.

I am surprised that he did stuff like the Carl Williams amnesia story which rewrote recent history and then he turned around and dropped the whole thing.

Here we go with that again

Carl didn't come back until ten years following his supposed death/disappearance (which, surely, can't be considered recent?) and it's not as if he died in front of them in a hospital or something. Besides, it was an almost year-long story that gave Paul, Mary, Carl, Ruth and even Charlie some fantastic material to work with and the only fault I can find with it is that it became too much about Christine (although I enjoyed her finding out first and the process it took for Paul to find out). As for dropping it, well, if anyone 'dropped' it, it was Kay Alden and with that I disagree as well, considering it felt right and was dramatically painful that Carl had a new life, with a woman he loved, and dropping all of that to return to Mary as if it didn't mean anything would have felt like ABC soap circa 2008.

I am leaning towards rewrite until I think of the fact that Michael and Kevin NEVER crossed paths until the reveal. Kevin stayed on the opposite side of the law, yet he never had a reason to be in Michael's orbit? At some point, a criminal and the resident attorney meet for one reason or another. Regardless, it worked. It worked until Kevin was whitewashed as opposed to a redemption story. When did Soaps begin to bypass redemption stories? It wasn't always like this.

You are judging the show then under today's circumstances. Even in 2003, Y&R still had a strong sense of (social) place, which means random characters didn't interact with random characters just for the sake of it and didn't come into each other's orbit unless there was specific story that dictated it. Also, making Michael into a "resident attorney" completely cheapens him because, even at that point, he was still very hated by most and would never have had reason to take that case or be anywhere near it. He's not Justin from DAYS, for God's sake. On top of that, the 'twist' only occurred what? 3, 4 months after Kevin's first appearance? That's about 5 minutes in Y&R time--he would have barely had time for the first beat of his story, let alone interact with Michael!

I don't remember the original Carl story. Did the character fade away, or was he killed off only to return during that storyline when he had no memory?

I've always liked Nick but definitely not digging how he's coming off now.

It was pretty funny when Nick was thumbing through his digital yearbook at GCAC and saw Gabriel's picture with his nickname of Bingo. What's he going to do, sneak up on Gabriel and yell Hey Bingo! and see what happens? I hope so. I'm ready to move on from the Shick drama.

I liked the scenes between Jack/Adam and Neil/Phyllis. I couldn't help but think how much dialog those actors had to memorize for such long intensive conversations. Usually in the past Y&R has the actors do shorter scenes with punchy short sentences. Jack and Adam had a seriously long scene with tons of dialog and appropriate facial expressions and reactions. Liked it.

It was pretty funny when Nick was thumbing through his digital yearbook at GCAC and saw Gabriel's picture with his nickname of Bingo. What's he going to do, sneak up on Gabriel and yell Hey Bingo! and see what happens? I hope so. I'm ready to move on from the Shick drama.

I liked the scenes between Jack/Adam and Neil/Phyllis. I couldn't help but think how much dialog those actors had to memorize for such long intensive conversations. Usually in the past Y&R has the actors do shorter scenes with punchy short sentences. Jack and Adam had a seriously long scene with tons of dialog and appropriate facial expressions and reactions. Liked it.

It was Jean and Shelley great dialogue. The Jack and Adam scenes were a real treat just smart writing and very character driven.

Just stop.

I'm glad Hillary didn't throw out her birth control pills. Last thing we need is a WTD story here.

Phyllis and Neil as friends and confidants feels pretty forced and Gina T seemed a bit lost in the scenes. Currently not here for it.

I do however enjoy Stich and Chelsea's disdain but support for each other when it comes to keeping Snortoria and Billy apart. I hope we get some more scheming scenes with them.

Jack is so bitch made I'm not surprised he caved and is going to cover for Adam. Those were some really great scenes though.

I like the twist of Nick going to school with Gabriel, nice way to keep Adam on his toes.

I'm glad Hillary didn't throw out her birth control pills. Last thing we need is a WTD story here.

Phyllis and Neil as friends and confidants feels pretty forced and Gina T seemed a bit lost in the scenes. Currently not here for it.

I do however enjoy Stich and Chelsea's disdain but support for each other when it comes to keeping Snortoria and Billy apart. I hope we get some more scheming scenes with them.

Jack is so bitch made I'm not surprised he caved and is going to cover for Adam. Those were some really great scenes though.

I like the twist of Nick going to school with Gabriel, nice way to keep Adam on his toes.

I was trying to figure out why GT was so animated in those scenes. I wonder if they are thinking of pairing these two and she is trying to bring a little more life to the scenes to make it work. We know that KSJ has very decided opinions on what Neil needs in his next pairing. Was she doing a Dru impression there? It seemed very much a departure from how she has been playing the role and the few other Phyllis and Neil scenes. It was a little odd.

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I don't remember the original Carl story. Did the character fade away, or was he killed off only to return during that storyline when he had no memory?

He faded away (unfortunately) then was brought back a few years later (with a new wife & amnesia) to give the rest of the Williams family (Paul, Mary, Cricket, Charlie) closure.

I was trying to figure out why GT was so animated in those scenes. I wonder if they are thinking of pairing these two and she is trying to bring a little more life to the scenes to make it work. We know that KSJ has very decided opinions on what Neil needs in his next pairing. Was she doing a Dru impression there? It seemed very much a departure from how she has been playing the role and the few other Phyllis and Neil scenes. It was a little odd.

It definitely was odd, almost like she got a note from somebody to Stafford it up so she resorted to her old Kelly Crammer acting ticks. I hope they aren't thinking of pairing those two up, she works great with Peter B and Neil needs to be single and playing strictly business storyline once this Hillary and Devon stuff blows up.

OMG The Baldwin "cancer" scene

Not a bad idea in theory but REALLY horrible execution & acting. Not to mention the uncomfortable undertones between Michael/Fen.

OMG The Baldwin "cancer" scene

Not a bad idea in theory but REALLY horrible execution & acting. Not to mention the uncomfortable undertones between Michael/Fen.

That was so heartfelt in those scenes very sad but greatly acted.

That was so heartfelt in those scenes very sad but greatly acted.

I laughed my ass off.

It definitely was odd, almost like she got a note from somebody to Stafford it up so she resorted to her old Kelly Crammer acting ticks. I hope they aren't thinking of pairing those two up, she works great with Peter B and Neil needs to be single and playing strictly business storyline once this Hillary and Devon stuff blows up.

When has Neil ever been single for an extended period of time over the last 11 years? He won't be single. If I didn't know better, I would think they were gearing up for a Dru return (recast). What other reason is there to put Phyllis in Neil's orbit so heavily? There is no foundation for it.

When has Neil ever been single for an extended period of time over the last 11 years? He won't be single. If I didn't know better, I would think they were gearing up for a Dru return (recast). What other reason is there to put Phyllis in Neil's orbit so heavily? There is no foundation for it.

Don't put that out there in the universe please. I cannot handle another recast on this show when they can easily bring back VR, who did nothing but speak the truth. Dru can remain dead.