I don't really believe Amelia Heinle has the power to get an actor fired. I have a feeling they expected a lot of stuff from his return that wasn't very feasible a decade later, especially when the character and the show have changed so much.

Burgess Jenkins, whose name sounds like an overpriced department store, has some semi-big primetime credits. I wonder if this meant they saw him as a "name."

He's 40 and he sure looks it. It's going to be even more incongruous if they continue writing Billy as a babyish loser.

I agree that AH doesn't have this kind of juice, but finding guys to fit with her is a huge sign that she is the problem! Now, this below par performer will be sandwiched between 2 newbies? Too much to ask of an audience.

Gosh, let's look at facts:

Stitch & Ashley are sizzling based on the limited scenes we've seen with them. Stitch & Victoria - fizzle

NuOldBilly & Chelsea are hot and fun. NuOldBilly & Victoria - awkward

I agree that AH doesn't have this kind of juice, but finding guys to fit with her is a huge sign that she is the problem! Now, this below par performer will be sandwiched between 2 newbies? Too much to ask of an audience.

This show is too entranced with prefab couples that have never been worth the courting of the limited fanbases they have. I do think some of this didn't involve Bacteria. David Tom wasn't the generic soap hunk type, and he also couldn't bring them any primetime cachet, or semi-catchet. This guy having a few appearances on Nashville and a role on a season of Army Wives means that in a genre so ashamed of itself, he's a big get.

The problem is, that Billy Abbot isn't meant for Victoria Newman.

I know AH was calling for Billy Miller back, But what was so special about BillyMiller Billy & AH Victoria nothing. they were a bore. & I blame AH as Victoria because she made Billy a bore.

The nerve of those CBS bastards to to a Tom Siblings promo! Wow!

Although DT seemed to have really good chemistry with MCE and EH, I'm willing to concede that he did not have it with AH. Judging by this newest casting, they are clearly going for a noticeably older looking Billy which tells me that they plan to ride the Billy/Victoria bandwagon until the wheels fall off. Y&R clearly wants that couple as Endgame- a term I've come to despise since it has taken all the spontaneity out of letting the writers and the viewers see the magic of seeing chemistry organically unfold, as opposed to it being forced and predetermined the way it currently is.

DT did have certain deficiencies that precluded him from truly having leading Man status (his voice and his boyish looks) but so do the other Men on Y&R: most of the men on this show are either past their 'Sell By' date as Leading Men (Jack, Victor, Paul, Neil) or couldn't sell Leading Man quality if their lives depended on it (Michael Baldwin, Kevin Fischer) so I'm inclined to believe that DT was probably small potatoes compared to the other travails of this show.

If we truly are investigating actors' deficiences, Y&R should honestly take a look at Amelia Heinle, who has only ever had any chemistry on this show with Billy Miller. She never had any chemistry with Don Diamont, nor Thad Luckinbill, despite Luckinbill beingn her offscreen partner. And her pairing with Stitch has already begun to drain the man of any charm, charisma or goodwill he initially had. Y&R is clearly trying to go for a rough and rugged quality to Victoria's pairings (clearly) but

we'll see...

Edited May 23, 201411 yr by DramatistDreamer

This is ridiculous that people are making up rumors Amelia wanted him fired. I thought David Tom was terrible this go around. He has zero sex appeal or charisma. I am sure JFP was begging billy miller. In this instance as bad as firings can be I understand the need for the change. He didn't spark with anyone on the show.

I think that AH didn't want to do scenes with DT. She didn't like it. And JFP used that as an excuse to get rid of DT, who was really chosen by AMc.

This is ridiculous that people are making up rumors Amelia wanted him fired. I thought David Tom was terrible this go around. He has zero sex appeal or charisma. I am sure JFP was begging billy miller. In this instance as bad as firings can be I understand the need for the change. He didn't spark with anyone on the show.

I hope not, since his fans insist he's going to be #1 movie star any day now.

eh, DT was pretty awful in the role. He played it too single-mindedly, I always felt. There weren't enough layers. It was like he was already over his daughter's death, and completely consumed with Victoria. It was boring.

LOL @ him being recast with a Stitch Jr. looking guy, tho. ROTFL

i actually expect Cady and Gina to receive the same treatment. I mean I like Cady as Kelly... but there's no edge or spark to the character. And Gina as Phyllis is gonna be messy as all heck. lolz

Edited May 23, 201411 yr by dio

TO be clear, Amelia Heinle was open about not wanting to work with him. In nearly every interview she blew him off and said repeatedly and tweeted that she wanted Billy Miller back. The fact that there was a blind item saying an EP was trying to get a previous portray-er back tells me her dissatisfaction had SOMETHING to do with it. All this talk of him being boyish or not manly enough is BS. The talk of him looking too young next to Amelia is also silly considering Billy is supposed to be like 10 years younger than her old tired ass.

TO be clear, Amelia Heinle was open about not wanting to work with him. In nearly every interview she blew him off and said repeatedly and tweeted that she wanted Billy Miller back. The fact that there was a blind item saying an EP was trying to get a previous portray-er back tells me her dissatisfaction had SOMETHING to do with it. All this talk of him being boyish or not manly enough is BS. The talk of him looking too young next to Amelia is also silly considering Billy is supposed to be like 10 years younger than her old tired ass.

Amelia was definitely clear about it in interviews. I thought it was very poor and unprofessional behavior on her part. I just don't think she would be able to get him fired. I think the show took a chance on bringing him back and then when it wasn't working out the way they'd expected, they went for one of their usual tools (looking for primetime actors who go to soaps when they have little choice) instead of trying to work it out.

Amelia was definitely clear about it in interviews. I thought it was very poor and unprofessional behavior on her part. I just don't think she would be able to get him fired. I think the show took a chance on bringing him back and then when it wasn't working out the way they'd expected, they went for one of their usual tools (looking for primetime actors who go to soaps when they have little choice) instead of trying to work it out.

Why wouldn't anyone expect more from this "woman"? She clearly has something on someone, because there is no way such a pivotal role should be in such pitiful hands. Heck, the new Abby can dance circles around AH - it's humorous to watch.

Amelia was definitely clear about it in interviews. I thought it was very poor and unprofessional behavior on her part. I just don't think she would be able to get him fired. I think the show took a chance on bringing him back and then when it wasn't working out the way they'd expected, they went for one of their usual tools (looking for primetime actors who go to soaps when they have little choice) instead of trying to work it out.

They worked it out for years with her. Why not DT? I just feel like they want to still do Billy/Victoria creatively and AH wasn't having it. JFP didn't want DT anyway so she took the opportunity to move on.

Unfortunatley DT doesnt look like the soap hunk looks now a days which is sad commentary

Soaps want guys with Abs first and acting skill second. I hold nothing aganist Burgess since he just took a job but YR did David dirty and I hope Karma bites them good.