No, MAB made it what it is with the retcon and moofia. I am sure Jess had every intention of cane actually being Phillip.

No, that would imply the original storyline LML penned was good, and then MAB ruined it. Both sucked. Regardless of Walton's intentions, Cane was a debacle from the moment he entered (although I did find him attractive back then, I admit)

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No, MAB made it what it is with the retcon and moofia. I am sure Jess had every intention of cane actually being Phillip.

At the time I thought DG looked a little too young for Cane to be the same age as Phillip. Now that age has caught up to him and I have no problem accepting that now.

It would've been better if when they made him Phillip they would've kept the real Phillip dead. Because resurrecting Phillip was a horrible pointless idea. And the reasoning behind Phillip pretending to be dead and sending Cane was so damn stupid! The absolute point of no return for Cane as a character was the Aussie cow mafia family lie.

This...

It would've been better if when they made him Phillip they would've kept the real Phillip dead. Because resurrecting Phillip was a horrible pointless idea. And the reasoning behind Phillip pretending to be dead and sending Cane was so damn stupid! The absolute point of no return for Cane as a character was the Aussie cow mafia family lie.

This...

It would've been better if when they made him Phillip they would've kept the real Phillip dead. Because resurrecting Phillip was a horrible pointless idea. And the reasoning behind Phillip pretending to be dead and sending Cane was so damn stupid! The absolute point of no return for Cane as a character was the Aussie cow mafia family lie.

This...

She also talked about her favorite men to work with on Y&R.

DG of course who she says reminds her of her own son.

BJ because he's very soulful

PB because they have a familiar rhythm

DD, CLB, and GR because they make her laugh

She and JD and great laughs together.

She didn't mention BM at all. Some people were surprised.

It would've been better if when they made him Phillip they would've kept the real Phillip dead. Because resurrecting Phillip was a horrible pointless idea. And the reasoning behind Phillip pretending to be dead and sending Cane was so damn stupid! The absolute point of no return for Cane as a character was the Aussie cow mafia family lie.

Exactly. The story worked on some levels, because it gave Jill peace that she had her real son back and that Kay was responsible for the switch (entirely believable). It's too bad they never got a chance to pursue the angle of who were (dead Phillip's real parents, etc.) I hate the resurrection, mainly because it brought back to the screen someone who couldn't act. It would've been different if he was actually good, but those wooden expression and deadpan delivery ruined it.

We haven't hated the idea but the execution. That Cane is a no wrong doer, super hero and yet he originally was A FRAUD. A FRAUD. Not enough retcons could make this disappear.

+1.

Exactly. The story worked on some levels, because it gave Jill peace that she had her real son back and that Kay was responsible for the switch (entirely believable). It's too bad they never got a chance to pursue the angle of who were (dead Phillip's real parents, etc.) I hate the resurrection, mainly because it brought back to the screen someone who couldn't act. It would've been different if he was actually good, but those wooden expression and deadpan delivery ruined it.

And nothing good came of came of bringing back said person who couldn't act. I think the last time I saw him onscreen was during a cringe worthy performance when NotCane died during the moofia story. Pointless resurrection!

I just watched the chat with Jess and Melody......soooo stunned that Jess came up with the idea for Cane. I will echo that she probably had better intentions, but i'm still cringing a little bit because I feel like 20 years ago Jess would have opposed to this idea ,and no writer besides Bill Bell/Kay Alden and Jess herself really understood what Jill was about.....

I loved the interview but something seemed kind of off about them, especially Jess, kind of hard to explain......I shouldn't judge given everything that's happen with Jeanne and the other stresses of their personal lives, but despite that I would love to spend the day with these 2 just to pick their brain some more haha.

I couldn't believe it when Jess read the one question and thought it was Brenda Dickson, then Nikki said maybe it's Brenda Epperson.....i would love to know more about what they think of that whole debacle, but we will never really know for sure.....

Does Jess not like working with Eric Braeden? something hinted towards that when she said she wouldn't want to work with Her (Nikki's) "husband". I assume she meant something more long term other then scenes here and there, but if so that's a shame because (and I know i'm in denial) I think a story where Jill actually DID take down Victor herself would sizzle.....

I didn't catch the fact she didn't mention Billy Miller, but that's weird.

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We haven't hated the idea but the execution. That Cane is a no wrong doer, super hero and yet he originally was A FRAUD. A FRAUD. Not enough retcons could make this disappear.

I agree!

She didn't mention BM at all. Some people were surprised.

I am.

Daytime Confidential is reporting that Tristan Rogers is reprising the role of Colin Atkinson, so I guess we will be seeing more of Jill (yay) and more of Cane (boo!) and Lily (boo!) unless his return leads to Lame exiting the canvas. I never understood why JW liked being paired with him unless it was because it gave her screentime. A mafia thug is a mafia thug even if he is an Aussie mafia thug. I don't wish for someone like that for Jill.

After watching intermittently over the past six months (Jill Farren Phelps' reign of terror), I am completely tuning back in tomorrow when the magnificent Cynthia Watros return to daytime TV. My love for Watros apparently trumps my dislike of Steve Burton. Who would have thought.

She also talked about her favorite men to work with on Y&R.

DG of course who she says reminds her of her own son.

BJ because he's very soulful

PB because they have a familiar rhythm

DD, CLB, and GR because they make her laugh

She and JD and great laughs together.

She didn't mention BM at all. Some people were surprised.

The plot thickens...And I could just be reading into it. But he does play her on screen son and although they don't have many scenes together, one would think he would be mentioned. Glad BJ got a mention. I, too, think he is an awesome actor with great stage presence and has chemistry with all he shares a screen with but the writers just won't do anything with it. Can DG please just go. I long for the day for Lily to get a letter saying that their was a mix up at the lab. Cane is NOT the father of the twins! Ya'll know those kids are test tube babies so it is possible.

No, that would imply the original storyline LML penned was good, and then MAB ruined it. Both sucked. Regardless of Walton's intentions, Cane was a debacle from the moment he entered (although I did find him attractive back then, I admit)

this is true...however, at the time, I didn't resent Cane's presence. But now, I do. I wouldn't mind Lily being with P3. Probably because he wouldn't have been such a liar. But to have her with this lying con nobody. It is insupportable.

Daytime Confidential is reporting that Tristan Rogers is reprising the role of Colin Atkinson, so I guess we will be seeing more of Jill (yay) and more of Cane (boo!) and Lily (boo!) unless his return leads to Lame exiting the canvas. I never understood why JW liked being paired with him unless it was because it gave her screentime. A mafia thug is a mafia thug even if he is an Aussie mafia thug. I don't wish for someone like that for Jill.

I just think that this is being done to give Cane ties to Jill...and because Jill love the pairing. Pretty sure it will give Cane LOTS of screen time. As long as Devon and Neil doesn't have to play his supporting cast, I am fine. I can FF it.

I fully excepted a little while back that this show will never be rid of DG when he had both JC and JW championing for him. But can the role of Billy at least be recast so Jill can have one son worth watching?