I figure that they are going to replace the grieving grandparents role that should be Esther and Jill, with Victor and Nikki. Must be why they had Delia calling Victor "grandpa". Any writer worth the name should know that the first person a woman who has lost her only child would call is her own mother....especially when she and the only daughter actually lives with her mother.

It's only been a couple of hours in Genoa City time. It's not like it's been days. Esther and Jill can still show up before the night actually ends.

You shouldn't do a story like this unless all the key people are available. You know Kate Linder would kill for a story like this, but they aren't interested in her. Also if you show Jill and Esther, you highlight that they're killing someone close to (and named after) Katherine so soon after her death. It's so insulting to Jeanne Cooper's legacy that they truly gave her a 2-3 episode send off and thats it. DAYS brought back like 10 cast members in meaningful roles and celebrated Frances Reid for MONTHS and even over a year she was impacting story. Jeanne Cooper was basically the star of Y&R and she got scraps.

After the way Y&R treated Julianna McCarthy no one should be surprised at how Jeanne's passing was handled.

It's only been a couple of hours in Genoa City time. It's not like it's been days. Esther and Jill can still show up before the night actually ends.

I read spoilers for tomorrow...they aren't mentioned but victor and Nikki are mentioned dealing with Delia's death...*sigh*. But even still, no woman would wait hours to call her mother whom she is close to and lives with...

Edited October 17, 201312 yr by ajsp35801

Except they didn't play up him being uncomfortable around her kids. People called out that hypocrisy because he had no problem pretending not to recognize his kid yet decided to get back with Lily who had kids. And then they just stopped showing her kids around him. And the examples you guys brought up do not feature multiple children. There's just no skirting around the fact that Lily has a ready made family when everyone else in her age group onscreen is young and childfree.

I understood why Daniel was uncomfortable around his own kid. Wasn't he a raped victim or something. But later on he grew to love her.

I understood why Daniel was uncomfortable around his own kid. Wasn't he a raped victim or something. But later on he grew to love her.

He was a rape victim but he wasn't treated like one at all. And him growing to love his kid was overshadowed by his shrew mother and her obsession to control her grandchild.

It's only been a couple of hours in Genoa City time. It's not like it's been days. Esther and Jill can still show up before the night actually ends.

Exactly!

I read spoilers for tomorrow...they aren't mentioned but victor and Nikki are mentioned dealing with Delia's death...*sigh*. But even still, no woman would wait hours to call her mother whom she is close to and lives with...

It is still the same night! Chloe and Kevin are at the mansion where her mother lives. I am guessing she doesn't want to wake her up. Daytime Confidential's spoilers stated that Jill would be in the SL this week.

Edited to correct spoiler details. Not sure where I read the previous info about Tracy.

Edited October 17, 201312 yr by bluejeanbaby3

Wasn't Bibel one of those people praising MAB?

I think the show's been in the crapper for ten years or more, but MAB still tends to get a pass, for some reason.

Maybe only in the beginning?

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2012/05/04/deep-soap-have-the-daytime-emmys-found-a-new-home/

“The Young & the Restless” is in Creative Trouble

“The Young & the Restless” needs an intervention. The highest rated daytime soap has been in a protracted downward spiral. Each episode I wait for a storyline or even a scene that will engage me. What’s even more frustrating is that there are some potentially interesting plots, but they are paced so poorly, with all of the important beats missing, that they have no emotional impact."

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2012/11/23/deep-soap-soap-reasons-to-be-thankful/

“The Young & the Restless” hit a creative nadir earlier this year. Between the sensationalistic plots, the rushed romances, and the longtime characters who were suddenly written like completely different people, the number one soap opera was not living up to its own standard. Fortunately, Sony finally decided to take action, replacing showrunner Maria Bell with headwriter Josh Griffith and executive producer Jill Farren Phelps. Right now, on a day to day basis, I find the show dull. That’s a big improvement over offensively bad."

I figure that they are going to replace the grieving grandparents role that should be Esther and Jill, with Victor and Nikki. Must be why they had Delia calling Victor "grandpa". Any writer worth the name should know that the first person a woman who has lost her only child would call is her own mother....especially when she and the only daughter actually lives with her mother.

Her mother just went through the loss of someone she was very close to. Is Chloe not allowed to struggle with how to break the news to her mother that yet another person close to her is dead?

I can't believe they are killing a kid on this show, shortly after Kay's death. Such a JFP thing to do.

Why not an explosion that would kill Dylan, Chelsea and Avery?

He was a rape victim but he wasn't treated like one at all. And him growing to love his kid was overshadowed by his shrew mother and her obsession to control her grandchild.

Because he wasn't treated like one. What does that means??? He should fall in love with the baby instantly. It doesn't change the fact that he was a rape victim.

Edited October 17, 201312 yr by MoTheGreat

Because he wasn't treated like one. What does that means??? He should fall in love with the baby instantly. It doesn't change the fact that he was a rape victim.

Did I say that? No! Just pointed out that he was not portrayed as a rape victim and we didn't really watch him fall in love with his baby onscreen because that wasn't the focus of the story. The story became Daisy vs Phyllis with a side of Ricky.

Really? Another dead kid?

I can't believe they are killing a kid on this show, shortly after Kay's death. Such a JFP thing to do.

Why not an explosion that would kill Dylan, Chelsea and Avery?

Oh, that Jill Farren Phelps.

Need a way to alienate the soap viewer in massive doses and this woman can find it in a heartbeat!

I don't even care that Delia died, honestly, the show has bigger problems that have existed for years.

Delia might have died unnecessarily, but I won't pretend this was some important character that was well-established. Yes, her last name was Abbott, but so what? People are acting like this storyline is the only thing wrong on the show.

Edited October 17, 201312 yr by Y&RWorldTurner