The thing is JFP and Griffith was a boring dull regime but it wasn't destructive. Mab gutted and destroyed y and r with horrid stories and bad character assinanations. Plus jfps ratings are higher then Maria bells I mean u couldn't get lower. I am sure JFP has six months to a year. It's not like Jill hasn't been in this position before. Jill is a major vindictive bitch she has stayed in daytime for a reason she knows how to play the game. Y and r isn't in horrid shape it's just painfully boring no excitement at all.

Good god at Passanate coming aboard? Is this what people were wishing for with the call to push Griffith out? The couldn't get anyone else to write the show? ATWT 2005-2010 should show off her utter incompetence at writing a soap successfully and her pen for repetition and bad capers that were ripoff's of Sheffer's work. Really Passanate needs to be writing gothic romance novels like Leah Laiman or something. And that's probably who will be added next to the writing staff!

Adam and Chelsea will became the new Paul and Emily.

Billy and Chloe become the new Brad and Katie.

Fen and Kyle become the new Noah and Luke.

November we'll have Sheila Carter terrorizing Genoa City's denizens. Come December we'll get Nick's new secretary who's a psycho stalker. January will be when Victoria's ex Cole played by Matt Crane returns to town to ruin and or sexually assault her. In February we'll see all the women suddenly have their biological clock ticking!!

Edited August 16, 201312 yr by soapfan770

The thing is JFP and Griffith was a boring dull regime but it wasn't destructive. Mab gutted and destroyed y and r with horrid stories and bad character assinanations. Plus jfps ratings are higher then Maria bells I mean u couldn't get lower. I am sure JFP has six months to a year. It's not like Jill hasn't been in this position before. Jill is a major vindictive bitch she has stayed in daytime for a reason she knows how to play the game. Y and r isn't in horrid shape it's just painfully boring no excitement at all.

It's been like that for way too many years. Y&R lost its classic feeling long long long long time ago...its just a boring piece of dog dooo

Seeing Steve Burton in the opening makes me sick to my stomach.

The thing is JFP and Griffith was a boring dull regime but it wasn't destructive. Mab gutted and destroyed y and r with horrid stories and bad character assinanations. Plus jfps ratings are higher then Maria bells I mean u couldn't get lower. I am sure JFP has six months to a year. It's not like Jill hasn't been in this position before. Jill is a major vindictive bitch she has stayed in daytime for a reason she knows how to play the game. Y and r isn't in horrid shape it's just painfully boring no excitement at all.

It's been like that for way too many years. Y&R lost its classic feeling long long long long time ago...its just a boring piece of dog dooo

Seeing Steve Burton in the opening makes me sick to my stomach.

#cancelYR

BREAKING NEWS: Y&R will now be renamed Genoa Heights.

The thing is JFP and Griffith was a boring dull regime but it wasn't destructive. Mab gutted and destroyed y and r with horrid stories and bad character assinanations. Plus jfps ratings are higher then Maria bells I mean u couldn't get lower. I am sure JFP has six months to a year. It's not like Jill hasn't been in this position before. Jill is a major vindictive bitch she has stayed in daytime for a reason she knows how to play the game. Y and r isn't in horrid shape it's just painfully boring no excitement at all.

I agree with this. The gutting was actually done under LML and MAB. JFP merely spray-painted the ranch set and dumped the music archive.

I don't watch shows for any one particular character, but if Eric Braeden and MTS got fired, I think that would be it for me. I am still willing to give Shelly Altman a chance but she won't have as long as JG/JFP to prove herself.

I am starting to believe Michelle Staffords major reason for leaving y and r was due to JFP. Makes perfect sense.

I am starting to believe Michelle Staffords major reason for leaving y and r was due to JFP. Makes perfect sense.

Thats exactly why she left no doubt about it JFP forces out anyone who is not her friend.

Griffith's contract was up and he was probably forced out. That doesn't mean that JFP will stay long term. Steve Kent is aware that she's a polarizing figure with a mixed track record. Under her brief one year tenure, Griffith left and Stafford quit. It's been a very turbulent year. They may give Jill another six months to turn it around with her headwriter of choice but it's a valuable franchise and Sony got rid of Latham fairly quickly. MAB stayed but she had come in as ficore and may have had some guarantees in her contract, plus she's in the Bell family, so who knows contractually what Sony, CBS and Bell productions have in the contracts regarding who controls what. At least there's movement. Everyone realized that Griffith wasn't working out. That's step one. He hasn't destroyed the show, it's just comatose.

And that hurt YR how? As much as some love to believe otherwise, if CBS gave a damn about MS, she wouldn't have walked. They brought Jill in for doing something others didn't have the guts to do. Jill will probably get a bonus for getting rid of that beast as well as shaving down the airtime of the high paid actors! CBS wants to cut costs and they don't care about any individual actor.

How many others want to believe they are bigger than the show and challenge Jill? I dare them!

Michelle Stafford was offered big money to stay, she decided to leave. For some people it just isn't worth the money. She'll likely have no problem finding other gigs, so why would she want to sign a contract and commit herself to a toxic work environment. Let's not act surprised, the same thing happened at GH.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jill drove away Stafford, didn't she do the same to Brown & Braun on GH?

I going back to bells being upset it's their fault they let their daughter in law make a mockery of the show. The only time Mab was good is when she had Paul rauch as her co exec producer but once he left it all faltered. Her over spending, her MIA when needed and her total egotistical attitude cost her y and r and thus turned everyone off to go back to the bells. Honestly Lynn Marie Latham who was an outsider her ratings weren't bad and she won an Emmy. I honestly lmls y and r was better than Maria bells. JFP is the next outsider and her ratings don't suck but the show is so snooze worthy.

And that hurt YR how? As much as some love to believe otherwise, if CBS gave a damn about MS, she wouldn't have walked. They brought Jill in for doing something others didn't have the guts to do. Jill will probably get a bonus for getting rid of that beast as well as shaving down the airtime of the high paid actors! CBS wants to cut costs and they don't care about any individual actor.

How many others want to believe they are bigger than the show and challenge Jill? I dare them!

Challenge Jill? Many have, and some to their peril, but Jill always loses in the end. Her reputation in the soap industry, except with her notorious FOJs, is abysmal. She has a limited bag of tricks, like changing sets and music. When that doesn't boost ratings, she starts gutting shows in all the wrong ways. She's following her typical template at Y&R. CBS (Angelica) and Sony (Steve Kent) made a huge mistake hiring Jill, and it;s all starting to crumble. The press for this show is horrendous now. Instead of talking about the characters and stories, the behind the scenes machinations grab the headlines. No one wants to invest in a sinking ship. And that's what Y&R is, and will continue to be under Jill's leadership. Shelly Altman, if tapped as head writer, would be an even worse choice than JG. She has no history with Y&R. She basically cut her teeth at ABC, and we all know where their daytime lineup is now. Jill doing something that others do have the guts to do is laughable. She's the weakest EP to hit the soap world. And she's destroying a classic soap. She needs to go.

And that hurt YR how? As much as some love to believe otherwise, if CBS gave a damn about MS, she wouldn't have walked. They brought Jill in for doing something others didn't have the guts to do. Jill will probably get a bonus for getting rid of that beast as well as shaving down the airtime of the high paid actors! CBS wants to cut costs and they don't care about any individual actor.

How many others want to believe they are bigger than the show and challenge Jill? I dare them!

Challenge Jill? Many have, and some to their peril, but Jill always loses in the end. Her reputation in the soap industry, except with her notorious FOJs, is abysmal. She has a limited bag of tricks, like changing sets and music. When that doesn't boost ratings, she starts gutting shows in all the wrong ways. She's following her typical template at Y&R. CBS (Angelica) and Sony (Steve Kent) made a huge mistake hiring Jill, and it;s all starting to crumble. The press for this show is horrendous now. Instead of talking about the characters and stories, the behind the scenes machinations grab the headlines. No one wants to invest in a sinking ship. And that's what Y&R is, and will continue to be under Jill's leadership. Shelly Altman, if tapped as head writer, would be an even worse choice than JG. She has no history with Y&R. She basically cut her teeth at ABC, and we all know where their daytime lineup is now. Jill doing something that others do have the guts to do is laughable. She's the weakest EP to hit the soap world. And she's destroying a classic soap. She needs to go.

And that hurt YR how? As much as some love to believe otherwise, if CBS gave a damn about MS, she wouldn't have walked. They brought Jill in for doing something others didn't have the guts to do. Jill will probably get a bonus for getting rid of that beast as well as shaving down the airtime of the high paid actors! CBS wants to cut costs and they don't care about any individual actor.

How many others want to believe they are bigger than the show and challenge Jill? I dare them!

Challenge Jill? Many have, and some to their peril, but Jill always loses in the end. Her reputation in the soap industry, except with her notorious FOJs, is abysmal. She has a limited bag of tricks, like changing sets and music. When that doesn't boost ratings, she starts gutting shows in all the wrong ways. She's following her typical template at Y&R. CBS (Angelica) and Sony (Steve Kent) made a huge mistake hiring Jill, and it;s all starting to crumble. The press for this show is horrendous now. Instead of talking about the characters and stories, the behind the scenes machinations grab the headlines. No one wants to invest in a sinking ship. And that's what Y&R is, and will continue to be under Jill's leadership. Shelly Altman, if tapped as head writer, would be an even worse choice than JG. She has no history with Y&R. She basically cut her teeth at ABC, and we all know where their daytime lineup is now. Jill doing something that others do have the guts to do is laughable. She's the weakest EP to hit the soap world. And she's destroying a classic soap. She needs to go.

And that hurt YR how? As much as some love to believe otherwise, if CBS gave a damn about MS, she wouldn't have walked. They brought Jill in for doing something others didn't have the guts to do. Jill will probably get a bonus for getting rid of that beast as well as shaving down the airtime of the high paid actors! CBS wants to cut costs and they don't care about any individual actor.

How many others want to believe they are bigger than the show and challenge Jill? I dare them!

At this point I would not be shocked if B&B is the last soap standing lol

At this point I would not be shocked if B&B is the last soap standing lol

Id love it to pass Y&R in the ratings....was seeing the credits and there are a lot of old school writers from Y&R now on B&B.

At this point I would not be shocked if B&B is the last soap standing lol

I used to think that Y&R would be the last soap standing but when MAB starting writing junk and reading about Sony's financial woes over the last 3 years (although Sony is slowly starting to stop the shedding), I started to believe that B&B might be the last remaining daytime drama.

Hard to tell, but clearly chaos in the production of daytime soaps is contagious.

Edited August 16, 201312 yr by DramatistDreamer