Yeah, running them to a full 30 or 35 minutes couldn't hurt at this point.

I'd be more inclined to dump the "More" show though and leave that as a Hulu exclusive or something. Let Friday be Friday for both.

Yeah Id like MWF-AMC, TU TH F OLTL

All My Primetime Children.

One Primetime Life to Live.

Primetime pace. Otherwise characters will be crying into their empty coffee cups for weeks on end.

First of all, Vee, don't take that tone with me. I owe neither you nor anyone else on this board anything, certainly not more explanation on what I think I made damned clear in my post.

Second, I said AMC and OLTL needed to stop thinking and acting as if they were daytime or even "anytime" soaps. Just because they are daytime or "anytime," that doesn't mean they need act like it.

Now, perhaps, if you're nicer about it, and for once, you were willing to read what someone else has to say with an open mind -- the same open mind I'm supposed to extend toward your arrogant and judgmental posts -- without shooting them down and dismissing them as some sort of imbecile because they don't happen to breathe the same rarefied air as you, I'll elaborate. Otherwise, just move along.

I'd actually like to hear more of your thoughts on the matter Khan. How do you think PP should be acting?

All My Primetime Children.

One Primetime Life to Live.

Primetime pace. Otherwise characters will be crying into their empty coffee cups for weeks on end.

I totally agree pacing will need to be adjusted for this schedule. At the same time, I hope its not at the expense of all scenes that do not speed up plot. One of things I have been really enjoying about this OLTL as compared to Ron's OLTL is that we're seeing little moments like Dorian and Jack getting coffee, Nat and Des chatting about being single moms etc. that don't drive plot but are nice little moments that allow fans to see characters outside of their designated pairing or age crowd. I'm not sure if or how these kinds of scenes can survive going to twice a week.

--Really concerned about the impact on cast size. I think the casts are a good size for the 4x a week, 25 minute show. Cutting that in half worries me in terms of our canvases becoming too bloated.

The question becomes who do you cut? For instance on OLTL you could have the show revolve around the Lord/Manning family so that's Tea/Blair/Victor/Todd/Jack/Dani/Viki/Clint. PP could then keep Nat, Bo, and possibly Nora as recurring. For the fans of Todd/Victor it's great. But for fans of Buchanans and Cramers it's awful because you pretty much have no incentive to watch.

So basically this from their press release about the first week was a load of crap?

Recap shows air today and numbers are strong heading into the weekend as viewers are likely to binge view.

http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2013/05/all-my-children-and-one-life-to-live-top-the-itunes-and-hulu-charts-in-debut-week

What are they then? PP flat out just said they're not shows we're supposed to watch anytime, and they said recently they're not daytime shows.

So riddle me this, what are they then?

You read a little bit more in the press release than you should have.

First, just because one fact on the bottom appears to be wrong not all of the information is inaccurate. Also, they were right in the press release!! Viewers binged-viewed during the weekend like they said today!!

I assumed that Khan meant that if they are no longer airing *close to* five days a week, they should just reformat and be written more like primetime serials? I could be wrong? I kinda disagree. Not only would that be more expensive, I think it also might put off the fans they have gained back who already seem to have the number one complaint that the shows simply don't look and feel enough like their daytime soaps.

I totally agree pacing will need to be adjusted for this schedule. At the same time, I hope its not at the expense of all scenes that do not speed up plot. One of things I have been really enjoying about this OLTL as compared to Ron's OLTL is that we're seeing little moments like Dorian and Jack getting coffee, Nat and Des chatting about being single moms etc. that don't drive plot but are nice little moments that allow fans to see characters outside of their designated pairing or age crowd. I'm not sure if or how these kinds of scenes can survive going to twice a week.

I think pacing has been sped up enough--but Isuppose I agree that with half the episodes it could be a tad more faster. Still, I agree with youthat, while it feels sometimes a bit clunky, I've appreciated that the shows so far have managed to have great little character moments (OLTL today had this in spades) and would miss that.

I don't think cutting the casts is necessary or a good idea.

I still think at least a third show is a better idea, but the important thing is that these shows cycle through a lot of cast in a single show, everyday, which helps with the reduced length and days per week. Some people complain about not knowing who will be in the episode in the first ten minutes but I think that's exactly the point - you're not supposed to get complacent and FF just for your favorite. I love that these shows have been having everyone in there and that they surprise me with who turns up.

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The question becomes who do you cut? For instance on OLTL you could have the show revolve around the Lord/Manning family so that's Tea/Blair/Victor/Todd/Jack/Dani/Viki/Clint. PP could then keep Nat, Bo, and possibly Nora as recurring. For the fans of Todd/Victor it's great. But for fans of Buchanans and Cramers it's awful because you pretty much have no incentive to watch.

This just makes me sad again- I love everybody- I really feel like they got rid of all the dead weight from the end of the ABC run (Gigi, Fords, even Messica right now) and ended up with a solid cast. That also raises the question of how worthwhile it might be to focus on the Mannings when TSJ has spotty availibility and Roger is also tied to GH and has bolted off OLTL numerous times. And we know PP is into their younger characters. And for the first time in a thousand years, I'm loving the OLTL younger set and would hate to see a promising new character like Jeffrey fall through the cracks or miss the drama when this quad finally blows up into everyone being jealous. But if they focus on them hard, longtime fans, especially some older fans, will flip out. I'm going to put trust in Jen Pepperman and Thom racina to figure this out- I've been impressed with them so far and hopefully they will just continue to make it work with what PP gives them.

No word that I can find about how FXCanada will addres this--they just ran their Decadent Daytime promo a few minutes back during the CBC News here (the most watched Canadian news program.) I wouldn'tbe surprised if they kept the schedule and simply repeated the previous day's episode of the not airing show that day.

I dont see them cutting anyone. I trust Thom & his team to incprporate the oltl characters well. A lpt of the AMC is alreday umbrella'ed I dont see that being an issue

I just cancelled my subscription to Hulu. Here is what I wrote:

I might cancel mine as well this month and return my Roku....although there are some classic B&B episodes on Roku. The 2 day episodes suck and is a bad bad idea...

No word that I can find about how FXCanada will addres this--they just ran their Decadent Daytime promo a few minutes back during the CBC News here (the most watched Canadian news program.) I wouldn'tbe surprised if they kept the schedule and simply repeated the previous day's episode of the not airing show that day.

Perhaps moving to Canada is the answer for all of us. They seem to value soap fans

I also wonder what will happen when September rolls around and PP can shop these to cable.

I don't think cutting the casts is necessary or a good idea.

I still think at least a third show is a better idea, but the important thing is that these shows cycle through a lot of cast in a single show, everyday, which helps with the reduced length and days per week. Some people complain about not knowing who will be in the episode in the first ten minutes but I think that's exactly the point - you're not supposed to get complacent and FF just for your favorite. I love that these shows have been having everyone in there and that they surprise me with who turns up.

I agree completely, though a part of me is debating whether with the day breaks it would be smart to put in *very brief* teasers at the end, or not...