Members EricMontreal22 Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 And Friedman himself doesn't exactly have the highest reputation--I think in this case there is some sort of sour grapes (especially bringing in the fact that Kwatinetz briefly dated a troubled, dead, starlet--and this has to do with anything, why?) Funny, it's been over 9 hours and my polite comment (pointing out that PP did exactly what he suggested, trying to negotiate a deal for essentially crossovers) still has not been approved. Hrmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 There wouldn't be a problem with it. HOWEVER, if he said that Liza was actually posing as "Tangie Hill" in Springfield while she was away, there would be a problem. I still don't see how you guys aren't freaking getting this! ETA: And Errol, yes, I do realize that we are in agreement and I was merely quoting your post and specifying the difference in simpler terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 I get it, I just think it's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 ^^^YES TO ALL OF THIS! Thank GOD people with some sense started chiming in on this thread. I was beginning to think that this argument that is completely invalid and pointless was going to go on and on forever. It's so damn basic that it's mind-boggling watching the rampant speculation. Business majors, lawyers, criminal justice majors, and paralegals clearly aren't watching ABCDaytime (shocker! I've been to SSW- it was like a Target and Whistle Pig convention combined!). Obviously you don't own the rights to something, nor have paid for those rights, or you might not think it so petty. They're filing suit to set precedent instead of allowing ABC to have their cake and eat it too. It's a smart business tactic that shows they're thinking long-term. It's the only way to nip this in the bud before ABC starts taking more creative liberaties that they aren't legally allowed to take anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 To be fair, early on the thread myself and a few others did point out that PP's had a legal basis for suit before giving up and ducking out. I mean, for goodness sake how long can one continue a debate when the opposition refuses to recognize that it has no basis for its position? Kudos to John for his persistence though. I have noticed ABC has already started to respond to the allegations in PP's lawsuit. The Web site situation was quickly addressed and now OLTL and AMC actors are appearing on The View. It will be interesting to see what ABC does next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 Here's my final word on the matter: Vee is right. Party on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 LOL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yes, yes, yes, yes!! To all of this!! Thank you all for jumping into this thread and putting an end to the insanity. I saw you peeking in the thread earlier today and was hoping you'd chime in, but I guess you had already tried. To be fair, I couldn't stomach reading all 29 pages of this crap because I skipped about 20 when I realized this thread was going in circles. When it comes to issues like these, which are black and white and are grounded 100% in reality, there are certain posters on this board I can generally count on to chime in and speak the truth. You are one of them, and some of the others that posted the same very basic black and white issue are among them. Unfortunately, some of them have gone the way of the P&G soaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 See, that's just it. You cannot contribute to your own "damage" and expect to be rewarded. "Reacting too late" is a big deal. A very big deal. Again, PP allowed ABC/GH to continue "harming" them because they thought something was in it for them (if you are being harmed and can stop it, you have an obligation to do so...not keep quiet and negotiate another deal). Can PP bring this to court? Absolutely! The bigger question is, why would they? While ABC might have breached, it was not that big of a deal because PP did nothing to stop it as long as they benefited. They didn't so to court we go. Facts: PP currently owns the rights to the 3 characters (and the other 4 who they really don't give 2 chits about) PP did NOT have to negotiate with GH about anything. They chose to! GH determined that sharing the characters long term would be a bad idea and broke off negotiations. The 3 performers are contracted with ABC and will return to GH as different characters, w/in their right to do and w/in ABC's rights to hire them. PP enforced a cease and desist in February and ordered that GH refrain from using the 3 in any way shape or form after March xx, 2013, GH acquiesced Opinions: GH wronged PP PP wronged GH Scenario: Vee unexpectedly comes home in the middle of the afternoon to find Marceline's 20th Century Painting at his (Vee, you're a guy, right) house with the intent to paint the house. So far, they only paint the front door a nice light green that really blends with the neighborhood. The house is pretty big. Vee pulls into the drive way because he knows he contracted no one to paint the house. V discovers that these people s/b next door painting the neighbor's house. Vee says nothing because he's been meaning to get around to painting the house anyhow, but due to the economy, postponed it. Vee returns home 7 hours later only to see that not only did Marceline's crew paint the house a lovely light green, but there are brown cows with pink polka dots painted over the green. It's truly hideous and embarrassing. Vee files a suit against M20CP for the cost to have the house stripped and repainted. Vee will only be compensated for the door, if that, because he could have stopped M20CP from harming him but didn't because he could have gained from the paint job (as long as his presence was not acknowledged at the house during the project). This scenario is not about contracts or breach but about damages. Anyone can file a suit, but not everyone is entitled to a reward. Are ABC a bunch of low lifes? Absolutely! I didn't watch AMC when Jesse and Angie returned because it happened to coincide with the "Return of The Real Greenlee" campaign which I found to be one of the most heinous things on Daytime. Closely followed by Tracy Melchoir (ex Kelly) filming on the set of OLTL as her replacement, Heather Tom, is being escorted around the set to meet her new co-workers. TM said she was physically ill and didn't even bother to show up for her last day. Who does that to someone? However, PP and ABC/GH were playing the same game, but ABC happens to be a bit better at it. PP should drop this part of the lawsuit and just go with the damn URLs and the ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 No they should Not, GH used a OLTL character that was not on loan to them. They can sue for that and should. it's a matter of principle. Someone creates something and then someone else uses it without permission, but just because that someone says I meant you harm, the creator shouldnt sue? BULL [!@#$%^&*] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 Baseless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 It is not baseless. GH used Tomas who OLTL never loaned to GH. That is Breach. Its Plain & Simple, Hope your on ABC's legal team then. Since the word baseless seems to be your only retort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 John, honey, what does "END" mean to you? To me it means done, over and out. Why do you continue coming at me when you are supposedly done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 Dang, why are people getting so PRESSED over this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted April 21, 2013 Members Share Posted April 21, 2013 This made me laugh so hard it gave me an asthma attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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