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I don't think JR's problems are everybody else's fault, but the people around us do contribute to the way we turn out. Tad did do more than his fair share to contribute to JR's troubled childhood and his troubled young adulthood.

It's just putting me off that he's acting like he's been this good father to JR while Dixie has been coming and going and coming and going from the dead.

I'm not remembering anything Tad did to JR in his childhood that could have caused JR to end up like this. Dixie was his primary caregiver and she came back in 98' and after that it was the epic love story of Tad and Dixie in domestic bliss until they started cheating on each other and by that time JR was a teenager and most of his anger was toward David and Dixie then anyone else.

I don't think Tad has been a bad father since JR went off the road with his sobriety. He has been standing by JR, has been telling him to get his life together and being a stern hand that JR needs but JR continues to self-destruct and not listen to him. If JR doesn't want to get better then he won't. No need in blaming Tad for that. Tad was there for him when Di turned out to be Fake Dixie, he has been there for him now as well. I would say he has been the only figure in his life who still cares enough to show up.

If this show had more time it would be nice for Hayley to come back and kick some sense into him but alas it's not to be.

I thought Kelly said she didn't want to come back?

Exactly when we've seen the exact opposite. He's definitely been a Carey supporter, and it's not until Dixie is around that he acts like he's always had JR's back.

I don't think this is true at all. JR makes bad choices and Tad makes the only decision that he can make without being an imbecile and placating JR. JR breaks into Krystals house and strong arms her and Tad is supposed to do what exactly? Pat him on the head say good job son? JR badgers Marissa and Bianca steals their car and 'wraps it around a tree' Tad is supposed to do what exactly? Say great job at least you hit a tree? Jr makes bad choices that Tad cannot support or condone that's JR's fault. Not Tad's.

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I'm not remembering anything Tad did to JR in his childhood that could have caused JR to end up like this.

I didn't blame Tad for JR's drinking. I do think the people and situations around us help contribute to who we become. Tad likes to point the finger at Adam a lot but his cheating as well as Dixie's cheating and their behavior contributed to JR's unhappy childhood as much as anything Adam did or didn't do.

Why are characters who we WATCHED DIE walking around alive now?

Common sense is out the window.

Word up.

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Why are characters who we WATCHED DIE walking around alive now?

Common sense is out the window.

Yeah. I'm just trying to enjoy the good AMC stuff we get in between. Stuff like Janet/Amanda, Leo/Greenlee, Angie tossing Mookie out of her house and of course rare sightings of Frankie wandering the hospital hallway. I like to imagine he's running his own Project Orpheus right there in the hospital because clearly no one give a [[email protected]#$%^&*] what he's up to.

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I didn't blame Tad for JR's drinking. I do think the people and situations around us help contribute to who we become. Tad likes to point the finger at Adam a lot but his cheating as well as Dixie's cheating and their behavior contributed to JR's unhappy childhood as much as anything Adam did or didn't do.

I honestly think JR is an anomaly because his behavior doesn't make a lick of sense. He spent most of his childhood - impressionable and formative years - around Dixie and well Dixie never acted the way JR acts. Same with Tad who had a smaller influence on JR then that of Dixie but was still his predominant father figure never acted this way either. I agree that Adam didn't have a hand in raising JR, he was far too busy with Marian/Stuart and Liza to pay much attention to JR at all. Yet JR wound up being exactly like his father.

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I feel like one or two back from the dead appearances every few years isn't that odd but grouping them all under one heading...yeah, it just seems like it's a bit much. Dixie's come back from the dead a few times and Zach I can buy since his body was never found...but when you start pulling every which character you can think of from the last 10 years that was on for more than two consecutive years under that blanket...Leo, Gillian, Babe, not to mention Mike Roy...to quote my favorite movie of all time: "It's what we call over-kill. It's what we call psychotic."

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Yes you're completely right! Tad should totally have backed JR when he nearly killed Babe, drugged her with a substance that she was allergic to, tried to make her think she was going insane, framed her for conspiring with Jaime to kill him and then blackmailed her out of town. He should have totally backed JR after he nearly killed his son, framed (Jaime) JR's brother for drugging his wife, beat Jaime with a tire iron, and got the same brother who he lived with when he was younger (that same baby brother in this instance) jailed for doing something he didn't do. rolleyes.gif

You have a tendency to forget all the bad things Babe and Jamie did but of course I'm not surprised.

None of this excuses Tad telling JR his son is dead! You can try to whitewash it all you want, Tad told JR his son was dead, Fact!

JR beating Jamie with that pipe, you do recall that Jamie had kidnapped, and was keeping JR hostage? That Jamie even taunted JR about his "dead" mother?

Damon is a completely different animal, he was barely in PV anyway, Tad didn't even know he was his son until the last month and the character himself barely lasted four months.

It wasn't 4 months but it was a short time and Tad still managed to completely focus all his attention on Damon and forget all about JR which is consistent when it comes to Tad Martin. Well I do recall Tad calling JR when he needed bail money for himself and Damon.

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Why were Maya, Mookie & Colby even on today?

So pointless! Wasn't it just a few scenes here & there? And what exactly happened with them other than nothing? Asher was removed with no fanfare or real goodbye's, Caleb may have slipped his way back into some mountain hole, can't Mookie/Maya vanish as well? I have no interest in either of their backstories & other than in resolving Angie/Jesse baby drama, Maya has no real purpose & serves no point. Especially with the show set to go off the air in ONE month!

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You have a tendency to forget all the bad things Babe and Jamie did

Good LORD! Nothing Babe or Jaime did during that time period in anyway excuses what JR did to them. Are you really going to argue that Babe cheating on JR and Jaime sleeping with Babe merits what JR did in the above post? Wow. The Young love most certainly is thick.

None of this excuses Tad telling JR his son is dead!

No it doesn't. But it certainly does give reason why Tad chose Jaime's side over JR's. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see Tad's point of view regarding the situation.

JR beating Jamie with that pipe, you do recall that Jamie had kidnapped, and was keeping JR hostage? That Jamie even taunted JR about his "dead" mother?

So that means that JR has the right to beat him with a tire iron continuously until he resembles a bloody pulp? Which likely could have killed him? It doesn't alarm you that he continued to beat him until he was unconscious and Kendell had to push him off of Jaime stop him? More fan enabling I see.

If Damon were the one drinking, Tad would bend over backwards to help him, JR not so much.

I mean he sure bent over backwards to make sure Damon didn't pay for nearly killing Brooke & Colby when he was texting & driving

Damon was also a teenage minor during this time period. But I see we will reach new lengths to appropriate JR into this victimized step-son role in regards to Tad.

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So pointless! Wasn't it just a few scenes here & there? And what exactly happened with them other than nothing? Asher was removed with no fanfare or real goodbye's, Caleb may have slipped his way back into some mountain hole, can't Mookie/Maya vanish as well? I have no interest in either of their backstories & other than in resolving Angie/Jesse baby drama, Maya has no real purpose & serves no point. Especially with the show set to go off the air in ONE month!

Mariah had a video of her and Trent on set the other day so I think we'll get some Asher/Caleb resolution whether or not anyone cares. I do, personally, but I know most don't.

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Tad never stands up for JR when he needs it most. He, along with everyone else, hops on the Bandwagon O' Judgment. If this were Damon or Jamie, Tad would move heaven and earth excusing their horrible behavior. It's okay for Damon not to suffer the consequences of his actions because of his mental disorder, but JR must be vilified because of his? Would Tad have shoved Damon in the pool during one of his manic attacks? Would Tad side against Jamie if the mother of his child wanted to sue him for sole custody?

This +27,000

I love Tad but he has made a gazillion mistakes with JR. Tad is a Carey supporter before JR usually, too. Dixie today just did what a mother does, especially one who has not been around for a while-went to her child who is clearly in pain. That is not coddling. Now I agree JR needs to get a grip and perhaps hit bottom but no one in his life except maybe Stuart has really done JR right consistently.

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