B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles

[Paul Raven]

Pierre was basically Robert on Days and Pierre on Y&R. Bill Bell obviously loved Robert Clary and had him play the same character on each show.

[Marquise]

very soon we will see Macy singing in Bikkini bar

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[AbcNbc247]

From what I've seen, just the theft of the formula and the Angela/Deveney storyline seemed like the only major loose ends that were never tied up. Not complaining or upset about it, I just wonder why? What happened that made Bill Bell just say forget it?

It all seemed so random but I love it lol it was like B&B became a musical in the 90s 

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Edited October 24, 2021 by AbcNbc247

[sheilaforever]

This is really exciting. In addition of being able to relive those classic moments, we are also getting closer to have a Jason47 style data base for B&B! For instance: just a couple of episodes further and we will have the total number of appearances for such legacy character like Clarke, Margo and Jake (who departed in 1992).

On a related note: I’m almost done with the entire year 1996. Therefore we will soon have the entire cast appearances from 1996-2021…

A LOT if I recall correctly. I wasn't too thrilled about Macy's Bikini Bar days, though. Maybe it will be different to watch it as an adult...

[Videnbas]

I am actually looking forward to Macy's Bikini Bar days. I think that time period added a lot of depth to her character, in terms of fleshing out some tendencies that had always been there but weren't fully realized before (her role as a professional singer, as well as her darker self-destructive side). If it weren't for her Bikini Bar days, Macy would be neither a performer nor an alcoholic, and those were arguably two of her most character-defining traits.

[FrenchFan]

That is terrific ! Would you be willing to share your numbers ?

[sheilaforever]

Of course!

I'll just need some more time to crunch the numbers and double-check. 

[FrenchFan]

Thanks !!! I can’t wait to see them. I love episode counts

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[Liberty City]

When Clark insinuated that Kristen was a lesbian in #146, and Stephanie always disdained the thought of her daughter liking women. Kind of hilarious, considering Stephanie works in the fashion industry.

[Videnbas]

I have currently reached October 1990 (I think) and there are some things that just strike me:

The Jake storyline - wow, I can't believe the show did such a serious storyline and actually explored it at depth! I can only imagine the mess Brad Bell would make of such a storyline today. But Bell Sr treated it with a lot of sensitivity (even though the ending, as I recall, was a bit of a cop-out).

The Julie subplot - I have to admit this has me confused. So Bill Sr is being blackmailed by Sally who happens to know about his porn magazines. But how is hiring Julie to seduce Clarke going to help Bill get ammunition against Sally? I don't really follow his plan and I don't know if I'm missing something of if there's a little plot hole here.

Eric/Ridge/Stephanie/Taylor/Brooke - so funny to see Stephanie scheme against Taylor in favor of Brooke/Ridge! It's easy to forget that Stephanie was supportive of Brooke/Ridge for a substantial part of the early years - first because it kept Ridge away from Caroline while she was married to Thorne, and then because it kept Brooke away from Eric when Stephanie hoped to reconcile with him.

And isn't Brooke's pregnancy unusually long (at least for a soap)?

[rsclassicfanforever]

Until episode 1334 is uploaded

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[Bright Eyes]

We just calling anyone a 'vet' now?

[Videnbas]

I am not sure how I feel about this. Maybe a recast is what is needed to make the Taylor character viable again, but the character history is what it is, and the mess that they made of Taylor post 2005 can't really be undone. Taylor getting away with shooting Bill and leaving him to die, as well as her part in the illegal adoption of Beth, are very problematic for a character who is supposed to be essentially a "good" person with good judgement.

On the other hand, Taylor is a character I feel is "recastable" (I am currently watching the 1990 episodes with the temporary Taylor recast and they work OK). The new actress looks the part and will hopefully work well in the role. And I do like that the show seems to moving in a direction where several legacy characters from the show's best years are being brought back (Sheila, Deacon and now Taylor), I hope this trend continues because those old characters, many of which were created by Bell Sr, have more layers than the ones invented more recently.

[sheilaforever]

This will not work out well. Part of Taylor’s appeal was the long history and great chemistry with KKL. With Ridge already being recast it’s just not the same anymore if Taylor is also played by someone else. Especially for a group of characterslike Brooke/Ridge/Taylor which has been onscreen for so long. Taylor is needed on the canvas but I don’t think that a recast - Especially with Krista Allen - will do the trick