Members Kylie Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 But does a talk/game show before OLTL do anything to help OLTL? Or if they slid OLTL to AMC's spot, and put two shows after GH, does that do anything really? I'm just trying to understand besides saving money, if canceling either show really does anything to help the other two. Unless they took that money and put it into the surviving show, it's only going to cause more damage. Not to knock OLTL, but I don't know that I buy even with more budget, it has the power to survive with just GH. I don't know if I believe AMC has the power to survive with just GH, either. LOL Has the loss of GL and ATWT done anything for CBS? ETA: I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but could it FINALLY be Frons getting the boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 Oprah's so go-darn popular here that they've aired a second showing of it at 11:05pm for years. They do the same thing in Madison, WI and probably other cities too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 CBS now has shows which cost less money, so they would probably say it was a plus. Last I heard, LMAD was lower in ratings and demos than GL, and probably doesn't cost that much less, so in the end I wonder how much they are really saving - I guess there's the whole thing of CBS not owning those two soaps, whereas ABC owns theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 Kylie, we both know that if anything like that were to happen the skies would already be raining blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoyaltoAMC Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 Oh please, that's just ridiculous. Do you honestly think someone is going to turn down a HW job that pays well into the six figures because the show "has the stench of death." The truth is that most soap writers have been around the block and that they probably find all these shows interchangeable. If they didn't want a job with any of these shows, it would most likely be because they don't want to be micromanaged. Especially in this economy and with the ever-diminishing number of soap writing gigs, I don't see a prospective HW turning down an offer to write for any show, unless again, they don't want to put up with micromanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 Actually it's more about Frons interference, no on wants to be micromanaged by him, makes all kinds of sense. I'd sure turn down the gig if it meant not being able to write without 24/7 inteference. It's almost like Frons is HW and the HW's are just for show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 I do. Look who we got. Yes, because as we know the soap opera head writer is the last bastion of creative primacy and discerning taste. The writer always gets fucked, but the soap writer gets fucked first, and that's the way it's been with increasing intensity since the 1970s. These people are used to a degree of creative meddling. It's a combination of factors: Micromanagement, and the fact that this show is clearly going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 I so do not want to see her come out as any sort of victor in this. When she and the ladies of The View were on Oprah the other week, I couldn't help but think about last year's scuttlebutt re: The View nabbing Oprah's timeslot in some markets and how if that is still even remotely a possibility, BW was relishing in that "introductory" appearance on O. And then a MALE View on top of that? Lord keep me day by day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 Only Iyanla Vanzant knows the true depths of Barbara Walters' treachery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darcy Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 I had seen that it may have been because of the advertisers not wanting to pay the same amount for repeats (lower rated) as they did for original episodes which would make sense. ABC would lose advertising dollars for the repeat shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 This. And why bother with a job grinding out 200+ episodes of dramatic sausage a year with no budget and hit or miss talent when you can't even tell your own stories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 THIS! So I believe it when it was reported no one wanted the HW job at AMC, cause of Frons' interference. Who wants to write for a show when you can't as you said "tell your own stories"? IMO it's not worth the hassle or stress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 "I didn't even have a office." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jonathan Posted February 22, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 Is it the "anointed time" or "appointed time" for Tori Spelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kylie Posted February 22, 2011 Members Share Posted February 22, 2011 I guess we'll just have to wait and see if this is right, and if it is, if a soap is really getting the axe. I don't really see the loss of either show doing much to benefit the two remaining, especially because I don't see the money from the canceled show going to the benefit of either of the remaining two. Is it to far fetched to think that they may just reshuffle AMC and OLTL? Let AMC lead into GH. Dunno. It could be a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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