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ALL: Oprah-Are You The Biggest Soap Opera Fan?

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Eric I caught that Sister Act performance too and that bit about the star being on AMC and modeling SuLu's lingerie on The View. :lol: But I was mostly preoccupied by her "end of the movie" hair and wondered how different the musical was from the film. :lol:

LOL Carl, yeah, I think it was when Morgan Fairchild was on (post-The City, or maybe it was someone else) when she went off on one of her RH cancelled for Loving, then The City, now even THAT's gone too rants. :lol: I certainly remember Rosie saying "my Delia" whenever RH came up. I think Kate Mulgrew herself was on when she talked about her coming back as a ghost to visit Ryan.

And of course Rosie always had her on to sing Danny Boy around St Pat's. (*edit* sorry not Kate...)

Sister Act the musical is set in the disco era so they can use disco for a number of the better songs, that was the only way Alan Menken would score it--I think that's partly why the hair.

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Haven't read all the responses, but....

1) SuLu's nose story was such bs! :lol:

2) SuLu's house is beautiful

3) SuLu has the Erica Kane portrait in her house!

4) Darnell's mugging is so annoying. Calm down, honey!

5) MEK came across very likable

6) Michael Nader! Love him! He looked really good.

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I think most of her choices made sense. You can't do a soap retrospective type of thing without Tony, Genie and Susan. When a non-soap watcher thinks of soaps, they automatically think of Tony and Susan, and Genie to a lesser degree. Debbie & Darnell made sense too, since they were the only black supercouple soaps have ever seen. I can understand Cooper, who's an icon. I thought MEK was a huge WTF. Don't laugh, but I would've gone with Van Hansis instead, as Luke was the first gay male character to share an on-screen kiss with another guy. Storywise, I think that is right up there with the history making of Jesse and Angie. Yes, technically Bianca had the first on-screen same-sex kiss, but that would've been AMC overkill. Looking at the big picture, since ABC obviously had a hand in orchestrating this episode, I have to think that AMC means more to them than OLTL. Just sayin'.

I wondered when this woul dbecome an "ABC hates OLTL" type post ;) But seriously, who from OLTL would have gone on? Vicki is the only possible one I can think of--MAYBE Dorian. Even if they wanted to bring back say the Buchanen men from when the show was so high rated, they could only really bring on Bo...

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Dude, you know we're friends... So I really don't mean this except to give my point of view, but I think you're taking it too personally. I know you're not an AMC fan but who would you have wanted on? Who did you expect to be on? Why shouldn't Oprah at this point in her show pick the ones she remembers and has a raport with? From an old SOD interview from the 90s (I think it was SOD) I don't think she even watched GH though she obviously knew Luke and Laura--she said she watched AMC for a time religiously, and sometimes watched Y&R (Maybe she only even watched Y&R in the 70s when she had more time--when Kay was on of course but nobody really else still on). Lately Oprah has said that about all her "celeb" guests--that they're faves, and I believe to some degree they are, otherwise she prob wouldn't bother. The fresh faces of daytime isn't actually a bad idea, but what would Oprah even ask them? Her show doesn't have that kind of format, especially now.

She COULD have done more of a fan one--picking a few lucky fans to ask questions of their fave actors, but I think her core viewers would find that even more dull. I really don't know the alternative.

IMHO ;)

You're being far more PC than I would have been, but I agree with your response to Soapsuds clearly partisan response. Any fan of the genre would have loved what today meant.

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I think most of her choices made sense. You can't do a soap retrospective type of thing without Tony, Genie and Susan. When a non-soap watcher thinks of soaps, they automatically think of Tony and Susan, and Genie to a lesser degree. Debbie & Darnell made sense too, since they were the only black supercouple soaps have ever seen. I can understand Cooper, who's an icon. I thought MEK was a huge WTF. Don't laugh, but I would've gone with Van Hansis instead, as Luke was the first gay male character to share an on-screen kiss with another guy. Storywise, I think that is right up there with the history making of Jesse and Angie. Yes, technically Bianca had the first on-screen same-sex kiss, but that would've been AMC overkill. Looking at the big picture, since ABC obviously had a hand in orchestrating this episode, I have to think that AMC means more to them than OLTL. Just sayin'.

Now I know you really are Christopher Goutman.....lol

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I can understand MEK because Tad was very popular at a time when AMC was probably at it's pop culture zenith (80s, especially early 80s - a lot of people knew the Marian/Tad/Liza story) but MEK and Tad are so very different today that it was jarring.

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Sister Act the musical is set in the disco era so they can use disco for a number of the better songs, that was the only way Alan Menken would score it--I think that's partly why the hair.

:huh: I don't even know what to say to that. But I just mean that in the movie, Whoopi wears her wig hair all big and out like that at the end when it's revealed that she's not a real nun. I was just wondering if they fudged with the storyline, but you saying that it now takes place in the disco era pretty much answers that question. :P

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I can understand MEK because Tad was very popular at a time when AMC was probably at it's pop culture zenith (80s, especially early 80s - a lot of people knew the Marian/Tad/Liza story) but MEK and Tad are so very different today that it was jarring.

Yeah.... he was the only one that didn't really fit. I kind of maybe feel they should have filled his spot with David Canary? I am biased though. I just feel he meant more to AMC and the genre as a whole than MEK did or has.

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I remember when I got into AMC in the 90s, my aunt it turned out watched religiously but only during her three years of university, and the Tad/Lica/Marian story was the first thing she remembered and asked if they were still on.

It is jarring. I almost wonder if MEK knew that--well he must really. He did seem likeable and it was interesting that he mentioned the Damian story (which obviously Oprah didn't care or know about :D )--I'm sure he can't be happy that that was cut short (for whatever reason)--and Tad's interactions with Damian were basically the best Tad has been (IMHO) and the most naturally Tad like, in where you'd expect him to be now--that he has been in a very very long time.

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I think most of her choices made sense. You can't do a soap retrospective type of thing without Tony, Genie and Susan. When a non-soap watcher thinks of soaps, they automatically think of Tony and Susan, and Genie to a lesser degree. Debbie & Darnell made sense too, since they were the only black supercouple soaps have ever seen. I can understand Cooper, who's an icon. I thought MEK was a huge WTF.

I thought MEK was a strange choice too, but maybe when the PR and KA bowed out, MEK filled their space? But then again, Oprah did say, that she had to have Tad on the show.

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Yeah.... he was the only one that didn't really fit. I kind of maybe feel they should have filled his spot with David Canary? I am biased though. I just feel he meant more to AMC and the genre as a whole than MEK did or has.

I woulda LOVED a bit with Canary. It's not like he's been off the show long enough to be forgotten. Still i think Tad kinda fit coming in midway thru the Jesse/Angie section since those three together were so key in the early/mid 80s

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I thought MEK was a strange choice too, but maybe when the PR and KA bowed out, MEK filled their space? But then again, Oprah did say, that she had to have Tad on the show.

Yep, that could clearly have been what it came down too... Oprah wanted him there.

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I think her guest selection was perfect. Icons from back in the day who are still with their shows (save for Genie, but Luke&Laura is one word) and who she has some knowledge/actual fandom of. I would love to see Erika or Robin on for example, but it's less interesting when Oprah doesn't have some sort of viewer experience or personal connect. Perhaps that's why the DOOL folks were dropped, besides the fact that she show was crowded enough already for the hour.

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I thought MEK was a strange choice too, but maybe when the PR and KA bowed out, MEK filled their space? But then again, Oprah did say, that she had to have Tad on the show.

She made it sound like that one was solely her idea--so maybe he was a fave? Her and the actor did seem to get along, even more than the others maybe. And while this was obviously a nostalgi show, I did get a sense that some of it was meant to point out that these actors and characters are still kicking around out there--even if I don't think Oprah has watched 20 seconds in ages. Tad's been on the longest of the current cast since Susan...

I think her guest selection was perfect. Icons from back in the day who are still with their shows (save for Genie, but Luke&Laura is one word) and who she has some knowledge/actual fandom of. I would love to see Erika or Robin on for example, but it's less interesting when Oprah doesn't have some sort of viewer experience or personal connect. Perhaps that's why the DOOL folks were dropped, besides the fact that she show was crowded enough already for the hour.

Exactly my thoughts.

Wait--I haven't read all 87 pages of this thread--but we heard the DAYS actors were dropped? Which ones?

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Seeing David Canary and MEK and Cady in a segment could have been good, and then in that segment they also could have mentioned James Mitchell.

I guess it would have been tough to find clips over the last decade which weren't about Babe Is Love.

I wish Larry Keith had been acknowledged but then since AMC didn't bother to do that I can't say Oprah should have.

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