5 hours ago, Khan said:

If Ron Carlivati were writing this show, and he had somehow stumbled upon that information?  Believe me, he would have found some way to tie the two Glorias together.

Except that would have been a clever use of history whereas RC's is often superficial.

5 hours ago, Khan said:

Jack/Drucilla union could have caused so much tension among the two families.

This pairing would have been a behind-the-scenes nightmare. Fun but probably doomed.

At this point I'd take Carlivati writing the show over whoever's writing it now. At least something would be happening.

Ron Carlivati at Y&R? I can see it now:

-Patty Williams returns and infiltrates herself by going around wearing a mask that looks like Chelsea as she locks Chelsea up. Everyone is puzzled by Jack and “Chelsea”s sudden relationship.

-On Halloween Night GC is terrorized when Sheila and Daisy return to break out Mari Jo Mason, Gary Dawson, Isabella, and Tricia out of the insane asylum. 

-Rick Daros and Eve Howard return from the dead to kidnap Nikki. The twist? Eve is now played  MTS via plastic surgery.

-Noah and Fen both announce their gay and quickly get into a love triangle over man. The object of their affection? Kevin.

-Nick and Sharon decide to share their special relationship via taking turns of sharing a teddy bear named Victor the Fourth. Phyllis gets insanely jealous and rips off the Bear’s head while framing Rey for the deed. 

1 hour ago, Darn said:

At this point I'd take Carlivati writing the show over whoever's writing it now. At least something would be happening.

 

20 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Ron Carlivati at Y&R? I can see it now:

-Patty Williams returns and infiltrates herself by going around wearing a mask that looks like Chelsea as she locks Chelsea up. Everyone is puzzled by Jack and “Chelsea”s sudden relationship.

-On Halloween Night GC is terrorized when Sheila and Daisy return to break out Mari Jo Mason, Gary Dawson, Isabella, and Tricia out of the insane asylum. 

-Rick Daros and Eve Howard return from the dead to kidnap Nikki. The twist? Eve is now played  MTS via plastic surgery.

-Noah and Fen both announce their gay and quickly get into a love triangle over man. The object of their affection? Kevin.

-Nick and Sharon decide to share their special relationship via taking turns of sharing a teddy bear named Victor the Fourth. Phyllis gets insanely jealous and rips off the Bear’s head while framing Rey for the deed. 

I always wondered what would happen if Ron were writing Y&R and that's exactly how I picture it. Pulling historic characters out of the woodwork via a superficial use of  history, and a darker more suspenseful but somewhat lacking show like the final years of OLTL.

It wouldn't be the best, but it'd be better than whoever's writing the show now. At the very least some classic characters might return.

4 minutes ago, ironlion said:

I always wondered what would happen if Ron were writing Y&R and that's exactly how I picture it. Pulling historic characters out of the woodwork via a superficial use of  history, and a darker more suspenseful but somewhat lacking show like the final years of OLTL.

It wouldn't be the best, but it'd be better than whoever's writing the show now. At the very least some classic characters might return.

It sounds like MAB, complete with the same sycophants in the bare bones of the soap press lining up to kiss ass.

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Edited January 15, 20223 yr by Dylan

19 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

August 1982

Jack hired glamor girl, Gloria, to split John and Jill.

So there was another Gloria involved with Abbotts all those years ago, Does anyone know who played her? It was probably a couple of episodes.

Imagine if this was the same Gloria, who years later remembered wealthy John Abbott and this time managed to land him.

I have't been able to find who played her but I am on the hunt. So hopefully the name will turn up. She wasn't there long as this was the same time John proposed to Jill. 

That some month

Gloria split town when John rebuffed her sexual favors.

As I said it was probably a couple of episodes.

I can see Jack meeting Gloria in a secluded spot at the Embers. He probably got her name from the PI he worked with.

Jack explains the assignment and Gloria asures him she's the woman for the job.

In the same episode perhaps, Jack tells John he's like to meet for drinks. John is skeptical but Jack says he's like some one on one father /son time. There's been a lot of stuff happening and they need some quality time to sort through things. John is alttle perplexed, but always willing (and hoping)that Jack will clean up his act agrees.

John comes to the restaurant and waits at the bar for Jack. Gloria sidles up and takes a seat. John gets a message from Jack that he's had to cancel due to some work issue. Gloria strikes up a conversation and engages John who's persuaded to stay and finish his drink.

Next scene, John and Gloria are getting along famously, even agreeing to another drink. John opens up about a beautiful young woman who has come into his life. Gloria says she's jealous and spins some story about never finding the right guy and John goes into gentleman mode telling her she's a beautiful vibrant woman etc. Camera focuses on Gloria going in for the kill.

Gloria puts the hard word on John and he backs off, saying he has made a commitment to another woman and that he is a man of honor. No matter what might be happening he would not betray that commitment. He apologizes if he led Gloria on and wishes her the best.

Next day, Jack meets with Gloria and she tells him no dice. John Abbott is one of those rare guys who is actually decent and moral. Gloria says that the woman he's interested is one lucky lady. Wistfully, she states she's like to meet her own John Abbott...maybe ,one day.

With that Gloria departs.

2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

-Rick Daros and Eve Howard return from the dead to kidnap Nikki. The twist? Eve is now played  MTS via plastic surgery.

Knowing MTS, she'd relish the opportunity to play a dual role like that, lol.

Yeah, if nothing else, Ron Carlivati would certainly get people talking again about Y&R.  Whether or not the talk would be good is another matter entirely.

5 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

That some month

Gloria split town when John rebuffed her sexual favors.

As I said it was probably a couple of episodes.

I can see Jack meeting Gloria in a secluded spot at the Embers. He probably got her name from the PI he worked with.

Jack explains the assignment and Gloria asures him she's the woman for the job.

In the same episode perhaps, Jack tells John he's like to meet for drinks. John is skeptical but Jack says he's like some one on one father /son time. There's been a lot of stuff happening and they need some quality time to sort through things. John is alttle perplexed, but always willing (and hoping)that Jack will clean up his act agrees.

John comes to the restaurant and waits at the bar for Jack. Gloria sidles up and takes a seat. John gets a message from Jack that he's had to cancel due to some work issue. Gloria strikes up a conversation and engages John who's persuaded to stay and finish his drink.

Next scene, John and Gloria are getting along famously, even agreeing to another drink. John opens up about a beautiful young woman who has come into his life. Gloria says she's jealous and spins some story about never finding the right guy and John goes into gentleman mode telling her she's a beautiful vibrant woman etc. Camera focuses on Gloria going in for the kill.

Gloria puts the hard word on John and he backs off, saying he has made a commitment to another woman and that he is a man of honor. No matter what might be happening he would not betray that commitment. He apologizes if he led Gloria on and wishes her the best.

Next day, Jack meets with Gloria and she tells him no dice. John Abbott is one of those rare guys who is actually decent and moral. Gloria says that the woman he's interested is one lucky lady. Wistfully, she states she's like to meet her own John Abbott...maybe ,one day.

With that Gloria departs.

Pretty sure Gloria was a friend of Diane's, but not 100% sure of that. 

8 hours ago, will81 said:

Pretty sure Gloria was a friend of Diane's, but not 100% sure of that. 

That makes sense. Jack could have been sounding off to Diane, reasoning that John is attracted to Jill because she's a pretty young thing and John just needs to get his rocks off.Jill just happened to be there, any other gorgeous chick would fit the bill.

Diane mentions Gloria her friend who only dates lonely older men like John and then we go from there.

Edited January 15, 20223 yr by Paul Raven

15 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Ron Carlivati at Y&R? I can see it now:

-Patty Williams returns and infiltrates herself by going around wearing a mask that looks like Chelsea as she locks Chelsea up. Everyone is puzzled by Jack and “Chelsea”s sudden relationship.

-On Halloween Night GC is terrorized when Sheila and Daisy return to break out Mari Jo Mason, Gary Dawson, Isabella, and Tricia out of the insane asylum. 

-Rick Daros and Eve Howard return from the dead to kidnap Nikki. The twist? Eve is now played  MTS via plastic surgery.

-Noah and Fen both announce their gay and quickly get into a love triangle over man. The object of their affection? Kevin.

-Nick and Sharon decide to share their special relationship via taking turns of sharing a teddy bear named Victor the Fourth. Phyllis gets insanely jealous and rips off the Bear’s head while framing Rey for the deed. 

And men stripping. Don't forget men stripping.

15 hours ago, DRW50 said:

It sounds like MAB, complete with the same sycophants in the bare bones of the soap press lining up to kiss ass.

Pretty much, along with all the rubbish talk about “honoring history” to go along with it. 

2 hours ago, Franko said:

And men stripping. Don't forget men stripping.

Oh, Ron Carlivati would bring back the Bayou as a male strip joint for sure.

October 1983

 Douglas bets Victor that Victor can not get an ordinary job. Victor takes on the bet, and using the name "Vernon Nelson," gets a job at a diner

December 1983

Marian Cooper feels victimized when she learns Vernon is really Victor Newman and refuses to accept his money. She then relents and promises to run the best cafe in town with his financial aid.

Does anybody remember this story?

That is the only mention in summaries and it obviously wasn't heavily played. At this time,Nikki was in the midst of the Rick Daros story and Victor was romancing his ex Julia.

Does anyone know who played Marian? Was Bill toying with making her more long term but lost interest?

Was she a possible romance or an older more working class character?