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What the hell was Nancy's talent? Cooking, coffee serving, working "dear," into every sentence, meddling, or ringing the town tramp's beads every now and then? It couldn't have been Wagner's singing?

Just kidding, love them both!


The both look the same as in the mid 80s. What is with that ageless cast?

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Nothing against the L.A. based soaps but I think ATWT's ageless beauties had to do with the fact that they were no sun worshipers. I would think that would be especially true of Julianne Moore who has very fair skin and would probably burn quite easily. I remember seeing episodes where she was at the Yacht Club and even though it was a show filmed in a studio, 'Frannie' was very diligent about applying sunscreen as she was a lifeguard. I even remember the character talking about how she had to put on sunscreen with her skin. That was about '85, the first year she was on the show.

Kathryn Hays was a model... I think all of those ladies were probably meticulous about taking great care of their skin as they knew it was part of their stock and trade. And the look on the East Coast was (still is) a bit different from the West Coast, that seemed to favor the sun-kissed look. We all know the sun-kissed look can, over time, become the sun damaged look.

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AS ROSEMARY PRINZ'S WORLD TURNS

It was as Penny Hughes on TV's As The World Turns, which she played for 12 years, that Rosemary Prinz first gained national prominence. In that part Prinz and Juilliard trained Mark Rydell, as Jeff Baker, became daytime's first major teen romance.

Today Prinz is getting ready to star in the world premiere of Carol Galligan's play Killing Louise at CAP21 in New York City.

Along the way Rosemary Prinz has seen her own world take some interesting spins. She spoke with Broadway To Vegas about her fascinating career.

While soap operas were always noted for their cutting edge sexuality, moralistic guidelines controlled the plotlines.

Rosemary Prinz getting wed on As The World Turns. Marriage was required. rosemaryprinzwedding.jpg

"Oh my God, yes," exclaimed Prinz. "There were many guidelines. This was way before Women's Lib. You could never get divorced. That is why so many leading men died," she divulged. "In order to further the story you had to kill off the guy, because it was a woman's medium. You killed off the guy and then the heroine married somebody else. That ran itself into the ground and then he died. If you were a leading man you never signed a long term lease," laughed Prinz referring to the actor never feeling secure enough to make a long term purchase. "You were going to get bumped off, because you couldn't get divorced."

Recently, Lea Salonga reprised her role on As The World Turns, guest starring to help advance the storyline. Any chance Prinz might do another guest shot as Penny?

Helen Wagner and Rosemary Prinz as Nancy Hughes surprised by her daughter Penny at her 80th birthday party on As The World Turns helenwagnerprinz2.jpg

"A guest shot is always possible," she replied. "It happens something like once every five years. I left in 1968 and I think my first show back was about 25 years later. That was for my brother Bob's wedding," she related about the character of Bob Hughes portrayed by Don Hastings. "Then a couple of years later there was my parents 50th anniversary and I went back. I have maybe five or six times - I wouldn't say it's a career," she chuckled. "But, it's nice because, at this point, I'm the highest paid extra in the world. They don't know what to do with me. They pay me and I go in and say - Hi, Mom."

"I do occasionally see Eileen Fulton in her nightclub act, because she plays New York quite often. So, I'll go and see her," related Rosemary about the actress/singer who created the infamous Lisa.

"Helen Wagner, who played my mother, and I exchange Christmas cards. When I go back, of course, it's like old home week. But, our lives run on different paths. They are doing a soap in New York and I am in the theatre and on the road a lot."

Usually TV Guide has their facts straight. But, in 1988 TV Guide ran a short - mistake ladened - article about Rosemary Prinz that stated: "She was one of soapdom's first bona fide stars in 1956 as Penny on CBS's As the World Turns and helped launch ABC's All My Children in 1970. Quite a track record for someone who almost got bounced from NBC's now-defunct First Love in 1954. Her offense? She laughed uncontrollably when an actor accidentally turned "Chris cracked up the plane," into "Chris crapped___." Not that she's immune to slips of the tongue. "I did a play where my line was 'I've never seen anything as beautiful as John Dickey's villa,'" Prinz jokes. "Well, imagine how that came out!"

Rosemary Prinz not only didn't mess up the line, she wasn't even in the play! rosemaryprinzyoung.jpg

Not true. None of it and Prinz would like to set the record straight.

Referring to almost being fired for laughing Prinz responded; "That is not true at all. It may have happened during a rehearsal but it certainly never happened on the air. And, I was never was almost fired from that show. I would appreciate it if that could get straightened out."

As to having messed up that play line - I've never seen anything as beautiful as John Dickey's villa,' Prinz retorted; "That not only was not me, it wasn't even a play that I was in! It was a play my husband was in with some character actress."

"That was my first husband, Mike Thoma, who had that experience in Pennsylvania, which is where we met," said Prinz referring to the actor that television viewers will remember from the series Fame and Eight is Enough. Thoma passed away in 1982 at the age of 55.

"That did not happened on stage with me. Mike Thoma was on stage with a character actress. She said it backwards and everybody laughed. That part is accurate, but it wasn't me."

Prinz is bright, spunky and fun. She's always been that way. Considering her heritage, that should come as no surprise.

"I think my parents met on a blind date that was set up," she recalled. "Then they eloped to Gretna Green. It was quite something. My grandfather didn't speak to my father for a year until he finally said - Okay, I'll marry her in the Church."

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"My father was Toscanini's cellist," she related, referring to the late Mortin Prinz.

From 1928 to 1936 the great conductor Toscanini, who started out as a cellist, was musical director of the New York Philharmonic. NBC establish an orchestra especially for him. On Christmas Eve in 1937 the first broadcast was aired. Once a week for seventeen years Toscanini offered the listeners an insight into his wide repertoire; a total of 117 operas by 53 composers and 480 symphonic works by 175 composers were broadcast. His outbreaks of rage and his passionate strict method of conducting remain well-known.

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"Toscanini was the maestro," continued Prinz. "He was a genius. In those days it was de rigueur to be difficult and temperamental - volatile. I spent my childhood in studio 8H, which they built for him at NBC for the NBC Symphony. Every Sunday I'd go to the broadcast and occasionally I was allowed to go to the dress rehearsal. I was just a kid - eight years old or something. I'd go to the dress rehearsals and hear him curse away!"

"My father was also in the New York String Quartet. Music was everywhere. Musicians were everywhere. They were playing chamber music in the house. There was always music."

Prinz surmised that "it was just automatically assumed that I would be in the arts. I always knew that I was going to be an actor. By the time I was 16, I had already skipped four times and graduated high school."

"I went into summer stock with a man who became a very well known Broadway director, named Mort DeCosta," said Rosemary about the man who directed the original production of The Music Man.

"This was in my senior term in school. I was graduating in June and he was hiring. I got something called Actors Cues and looked up who would want a young apprentice. I saw that he was looking for somebody to play Dear Ruth in his cycle of plays, which is a 15-year-old-girl. It is a wonderful part. She plays a drunk scene."

Dodee Wick and Rosemary Prinz in Yes, My Darling Daughter at The Lake Summit Playhouse DodeeWickRosemaryPrinz.jpg

"I read for him and he hired me. In those days you got your Equity card on the third show. My first show was Dream Girls playing an usher saying - This way, please. In the third show I played Dear Ruth and had this wonderful part. Then I did Kiss and Tell and played the lead. Mort DeCosta said - Walter Davis is taking out a company of Kiss and Tell in the fall. I'm going to call and tell him I've got his lead. I'm going to call your parents and tell them I think you should take it and not go to college in the fall. You're smart enough to educate yourself. That is how it started. They said yes and I was off on the road."

Part of her early years were at the Lake Summit Playhouse in Hendersonville, North Carolina. The Lake Summit Playhouse ran for four summers. For two winters the troupe went to St. Petersburg, Florida. In addition to Prinz, the company was the launching pad for Lee Marvin.

"I went there when I was 18 with The Vagabond Players. I played there that season. Then we went to Florida. We did a winter season there. Then I went back a couple of times when I was better known. I did Cat on a Hot Tin Roof there and Driving Miss Daisy many years later."

Currently Prinz is on the big screen in The Bread, My Sweet, co-starring with Scott Baio and Shuler Hensley, a Tony award winner for Oklahoma.

Rosemary Prinz in the movie My Bread, My Sweet Saving dollar by dollar for her daughter's wedding. prinzmybreadmysweet.jpg

"It has an excellent cast," extolled Rosemary. "It was a love fest. It was shot after Shuler had done Oklahoma in London and won the Olivier Award and before he opened on Broadway. So, it was that period in between."

In Italian, a good man is a "piece of bread" plain, simple and always welcome. In this romantic-comedy Baio, now a handsome 40-year-old, plays Dominic Pyzola, second generation Italian-American, workaholic corporate takeover artist. He has a post-graduate degree, a hot car, and an inkling that he's not a nice guy. Cleaning out "dead-wood" employees is lucrative but not fulfilling for the soul.

For that he turns to his hobby job, running a Pittsburgh biscotti bakery staffed by his brothers, Eddie (Billie Mott) an incorrigible skirt-chaser and Pino (Shuler Hensley) a older mentally handicapped brother.

He is a also surrogate son to Bella, (Prinz) an Italian immigrant who lives above the bakery and who has been saving, dollar by dollar, for her daughter's American wedding since the day she gave birth. The Bread, My Sweet is a love story about what happens when Dominic's worlds collide. He discovers that Bella has six months to live. Then Dominic gets an idea.

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"Of course Scott Baio doesn't look his age," commented Prinz. "He looks absolutely divan. And the camera adores him."

"It a very sweet movie," she reported about the flick which has received rave reviews from every critic. The only problem is that it is a difficult movie to locate. "Because it is an indie, it has a small budget for distribution. They can't afford to open everywhere at once. Even for a print it's something like $50,000," explained Prinz. "It opens in two or three cities at a time. It's played in Pittsburgh, Minneapolis, Chicago. It is a sweet, sweet, movie and it fills a need right now. They are saying it is going to open in New York. That would be nice."

"It's a lovely role, based on a true story. The writer/director knew this woman and so this movie was sort of a love letter to this woman and her daughter. I was based on a real character. The rest of it was made up, but there was a kernel of truth and then she elaborated for dramatic purposes."

What draws Prinz to a role is "something that is well written, culturally important, in my view. Of course, I've certainly done crap, but I have not done crap in a long time. Sometimes something doesn't work. That doesn't mean its crap. There are only two reasons to do plays - one is, you just need the money. The other is, you need to satisfy yourself artistically. Mostly, that is what I have been doing. Not that I wouldn't do something for money," she laughed. "But only if it was fun and only for a tiny bit of time."

"It was great to have done this movie because I'd never done a feature film. This was my first feature film. Well, that's not true," she confessed. "I did a feature film for the Navy when I was 18 about VD."

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"It was a training film, It Could Happen To Your Kid Sister and I cried my through the scene while I told somebody that I had VD."

"It was right after the Second World War. You didn't fly very much in those days. They put me on a train and I went to Detroit to do it. I auditioned for the part. I probably didn't even have a single agent. I probably was making the rounds and got sent up for it. And, I went off and did this little training film."

Prinz is also returning to the New York stage, starring in Killing Louise, which is set in the home and in the mind of the ailing, 89-year-old Louise - played by Prinz. The play confronts questions of conscience, law and morality when she asks her best friend to help her die.

"This one is a beautiful play about choosing ones destiny, about friendship and love and has a lot to say," stressed Prinz.

As for age Prinz has "never bought into it. My friends always say I was the first liberated woman when I was 16. I never bought into all of that anyway. It never seemed fair to me that we were treated as second class citizens. So, that was automatically reflected in the kind of parts I chose."

"In Killing Louise I am playing somebody who is 89. I've played old from the time I can remember. I've played all ages. I did the national tour ofDriving Miss Daisy and certainly had to go up in age. Many years before, I remember doing Twigs. I've done many plays where I had to be a really old lady."

"This is the world premiere. If somebody comes and sees it and likes it they may move it," she added regarding the future for Killing Louise. "One always hopes."

Laurie Metcalf, Christopher Evan Welch, Rosemary Prinz, and Nathan Kiley in Purple Heart purpleheart.jpg

"I did a play at Steppenwolf last summer, Purple Heart, and we have been invited to the Galway Festival in Ireland in July. So, I'm going to be doing that play again. That was another world premiere.

"I've been to London, but this will be my first time in Ireland.While we are there we are going over to Scotland, and try to make it a kind of fun trip. We have to leave the dog, I am afraid, but otherwise the family will be together. I just can't wait. I think it is so terrific to go over and do things in foreign lands."

Roger Robinson, Tony nominee for Seven Guitarsplays Hoke, with Rosemary Prinz in Driving Miss Daisy prinzdrivingmissdaisy.jpg

Four-footed beasts are an important part of the Prinz household.

"Every dog I've had traveled with me. It never used to present a problem, but now sometimes it can. But, they have to adjust or they don't get me. What is the point of having a dog if you leave it at home? Recently I played Steppenwolf and Pittsburgh and both were just such dog friendly places. I brought the dogs to the theatre. They stayed in my dressing room during the show.

Another vital part of the household is husband, Joe Patti.

"My husband and I took a little vacation in March and went to Prague and Budapest. It was fabulous. I had never been to that part of Europe. It was just fascinating to see all of these old, wonderful buildings and architecture. It was terrific and, of course, we ate our way through..." she laughed.

"My husband is retired. He was a jazz drummer. Occasionally, we would do musicals together. He would decide to make the ultimate sacrifice - since he does improvisational jazz," she kidded, about him playing a locked in score. "That was fun when we could travel together. He always managed to join me at various parts of the tour or the run."

Prinz also performed Glass Menagerie in Japan. It wasn't your run of the mill performance.

"Japan was an exchange program. I had done Glass Menagerie at the Milwaukee Rep and we did a exchange program with Japan," she explained. "They sent a company over and we went over there and did that for five weeks. I just loved it."

"It was the most foreign place that I had ever been and it was like stepping into another world."

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"The Japanese love Tennessee Williams. They have a great affinity for him. They were totally befuddled by Sam Shepard. But, they loved Tennessee Williams, even though they didn't understand a word," she continued.

"And, they didn't wear their earphones! Then I realized - Well, of course they weren't going to wear their earphones. When I went to all of the different theatres, the Kabuki (traditional Japanese entertainment men where play all the parts) and the Bunraku (Japanese traditional puppets theater) I never wore earphones. I wanted to see and experience it as they presented it. And, they didn't miss a thing. Of course, they knew the play, but they couldn't follow the exact dialogue. So, we never got any laughs, which was weird. To do a play that you knew where all the laughs were and - it was total silence."

"We got used to it," Prinz said. "But, it was a very different kind of silence. It wasn't just flat silence. It was like - gasp - as a breathe intake silence. They were just with it every second. Then, we would get just wild applause afterwards. It was a fascinating experience."

"And, we did it in the "sin city'" district. It was just amazing. It was just so safe. You could leave you pocket book on the street corner by accident and come by the next night and pick it up. You passed all these love hotels but it was non threatening. It was a terrific experience."

Prinz has never stopped working and has no intention of slowing down. "No, I never stop working. I was rarely out of work. I've been very fortunate."

Killing Louise by Carol Galligan, directed by Michael Montel, starring Rosemary Prinz. March 4th to 29th at CAP21 Theatre, NYC.

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Thanks.

It was 17 years, not 25, but I can see why she got it mixed up.

Too bad they never brought Penny back after 2000. Then again, when you've got Katie and Janet and Liberty, who gives a [!@#$%^&*] about 54 years of history, right Goutman?

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It's just my personal opinion and I have no solid proof of this but I honestly believe that since 2000 (after AW's cancellation in '99) P&G and eventually the CBS daytime network knew that neither ATWT nor GL would make it past the decade.

The choices that the execs made just convinced me more and more ( a lot of previously unconnected characters, filler/new cast members, alienating many veterans, throwing caution to the wind in regards to storylines, in ways that were good and bad), that they were just letting the show slowly wind down.

It was very telling that one show ended in '09 and the other in '10. Neither made it out of the decade.

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"What the -- ? Doug Marland was so not the first gay man to work at ATWT!

"Oh, wait, they meant.... Nevermind."

But seriously, I felt this was a good article exploring the background of Hank's story and how it had evolved from its original intentions. It's interesting to note how far daytime has come from those days...even if most of us agree they still have some ways to go.

Thanks, Carl!

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It was interesting to read about how they were going to give him AIDS but then became too afraid of viewer reaction. I imagine this is the reason why there were no gay men with HIV or AIDS on daytime until somewhere around 1994 or 1995 (the scenes Julia had with the man dying of AIDS were far more powerful than I had expected).

It's too bad they never really brought Hank back, to test the boundaries further. I guess maybe Marland was wary of pushing too far, as I don't remember reading about him having any plans to bring in more gay characters during his last 4 years writing the show.

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When Margo thought Nevins might have infected her with HIV, she attended a support group in Chicago. There was a recurring character named Gil, played by Mitch Lichtenstein in 1992-93. He and his lover were both HIV positive. There was even a scene where Gil kissed his lover, albeit on the forehead, when Margo visited him in the hospital. Gil was introduced under Marland and appeared to be primed for a more involved role, but then Marland died. About a year or so later, Gil was brought back for one episode.

I wonder whatever happened to Brian Starcher who played Hank? In interviews, he did not seem particurlarly comfortable in the role.

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I've often read that Irna Phillips disapproved of Jane House (Liz Stewart) appearing in the play 'Lenny' and wrote her out.But acccording to a Chicago Tribune article Jane was dismissed around June 71,a good 6 months before Irna returned.

Gloria DeHaven joined ATWT as Sara Fuller in Nov 1965.

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She had also learned a lesson: All future shows and scripts she worked on would be copyrighted in her name alone.(16)     In 1932 Phillips bounced back with her second soap, title TODAY'S CHILDREN. It ran on WGN's chief rival WMAQ (at first unsponsored and with Phillips footing all costs in order to retain ownership). It was a thinly disguised version of DREAMS: Mother Monahan was now Mother Moran, and the other characters of the show were similarly redesigned. For a time Phillips acted in the serial but eventually found the dual work of acting and writing too taxing. She resigned herself to writing only.(17) Soon after, "the Phillips impulse" for creating new sows began. She created a short-lived soap, MASQUERADE - the story of a painter involved with different glamorous women. Devised as a way to sell the sponsor's cosmetics, it lasted three months.(18)     TODAY'S CHILDREN ended in 1938, partly because the death of Phillips's mother made work on a mother-centered show too difficult for her emotionally, and partly because, as Phillips said, "I had exhausted all the problems of these people."(19)     These two failures and the demise of CHILDREN were balanced by two other Phillips creations that survived and prospered: THE GUIDING LIGHT (debuting in 1937) and THE ROAD OF LIFE (debuting in 1938).(20)     ROAD OF LIFE centered on the life of noble surgeon Dr. Jim Brent, who "mends broken legs and broken hearts with equal ease."(21) GUIDING LIGHT was the story of Dr. John Ruthledge, a small-town minister. The character was based on a friend of Phillips. Sometimes during the early years an entire fifteen-minute episode was devoted to a Ruthledge sermon. Collected into book form, the character's many sermons sold 290,000 copies nationwide.(22)      Irna Phillips also created another hospital-based drama around this time, WOMAN IN WHITE. And when a group of characters from GUIDING LIGHT, the Kransky family, developed enough, she spun them off into their own show, THE RIGHT TO HAPPINESS, in 1939. It ran until 1960.(23)     Along the way, creating, writing, and controlling her series, Phillips pioneered many of the staples of soap operas today. She was the first to incorporate professional people into her stories: lawyers, ministers, and doctors replaced minimum-wage, blue-collar workers as heroes.(24) Phillips was the first to use such soap devices as organ music (provided by Bernice Yanocek) for dramatic effect, and cliff-hanger endings to keep audiences coming back.(25)      Phillips was the first to bring a higher social consciousness to the world of soaps. In 1945, after using THE GUIDING LIGHT to help sell war bonds and after realizing she had been "subconsciously" educating her listeners in various areas for years, Phillips decided to take a more uniform approach to the idea of "social significance." Phillips and staff sent letters to a variety of agencies around the country (the Red Cross, the American Legion), asking a simple question: "What is your problem and what can we do to help you with it on one of our programs?" From their responses, Phillips devised soap story lines intended to further those agencies' causes.(26)     Quite ingeniously, Irna Phillips also tailored her shows to her predominantly housewife audience. She slowed the pace so that women doing housework could answer the door, vacuum, or see to the baby and still not miss anything. She rationed ideas and story lines by doing the same thing.(27)     Phillips, herself, was a highly eccentric woman, possibly more than any of the thousands of characters she created during her career.She consulted fortune tellers from time to ti me and changed the spelling of her name from the original Erna to Irna when a numerologist said it would ease her life.(28)     She was also a hypochondriac. She visited doctors nearly every day of her life. A physician who lived in her apartment building in Chicago stopped by several times a day to listen to her complaints and take her temperature.(29) Her trips to New York City were often mixed in with trips to different hospitals and specialists in Manhattan. Once, while staying in her suite at the Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan, she insisted that storm windows be installed to end the drafts. The windows are still there.(30) Frequently, she asked to be pushed around in a wheelchair.(31)      Not surprisingly, Phillips's preoccupation with illness and disease became evident in her work. Doctors and nurse as characters, hospitals as settings, and illnesses as subjects for drama were vintage Phillips characteristics.(32) Phillips's treatment of actors who worked on her shows was rather odd as well. She seldom bothered to learn the names of the performers, knowing them only as the characters they portrayed.(33) Actress Helen Wagner, who has played Nancy Hughes (now McClowsky) on AS THE WORLD TURNS since it premiered in 1956, was a friend of Irna's and remembers just how typical that was, "I was always Nancy to her. Any reference to my husband always meant Chris, my on-screen husband, not my real-life husband. I never became 'Helen' until very late in her career, after knowing her many, many years."(34)     Similarly, Phillips did not like the off-screen lives of her actors to interfere with the on-screen lives of their characters. Helen Wagner, whose character of Nancy was in the early days something of a homebody, was for many years denied a vacation from the show because it would mean writing the character out for a few weeks. Phillips told Ms. Wagner, "Nancy is a housewife, Nancy does not travel." It was several years before Nancy was allowed to go visit a sister out of state so that actress Helen Wagner could have a few days off.(35)     Like her characters' lives and her plots, Phillips rigidly controlled her home life and went to great lengths to keep it simple. She lived far away from the network TV industry in her Chicago apartment. Until she was in her late thirties, Phillips shared a bedroom with her mother, and she never learned how to drive. Though her sponsor once gave her a 1940 Plymouth to celebrate ten years in radio (and Phillips named it Sheila), it is doubtful she ever drove it.(36) Even her weekly menus were preset: on Sunday there was leg of lamb; Monday, chicken; Tuesday, steak; Wednesday, meatloaf; Thursday, lamb chops; Friday, spaghetti; and Saturday, stew.(37)     Phillips seldom had anything to do with the press, which she believed (perhaps rightly) dismissed soap operas as second-class subculture, snickering at her success and her fans' loyalty. She permitted few interviews during her entire career.(38)     Also not surprising was Phillips's flair for melodrama. In 1960 interviewer Peter Wyden related the story of the day Phillips's son Tom arrived late to meet her: "She does not just become vaguely uneasy. Her concern is translated into imaginary but stark disaster - he's been run over, his body is lying at the curb, he is bleeding badly."(39) Irna Phillips labeled herself a compulsive worrier and believed she would never get an ulcer because she turned all her worries into scripts.(40) "I do quite a bit of projecting," ahe told an interviewer.(41)     To oversee her programs, Phillips moved in 1940 to New York City. After seeing the toll the war was influcting on the country in 1941, she fashioned the serial WOMEN ALONE to dramatize the plight of women left on the home front. Her experiences in New York also served as the model for yet another new drama, LONELY WOMEN, which had a short on-air lifespan beginning in 1942 before Phillips recycled an old title and the show became known as TODAY'S CHILDREN in 1943. After six  months, though, New York was not to Phillips's liking, and she soon returned to Chicago. A similar move to California in 1943 did not work out either, and she returned to Chicago after only nine months.(42)     With so many shows on the air at the same time, and wielding as much power as she did, Irna Phillips put forth a revolutionary idea for soap opera broadcasting in 1943. THE GENERAL MILLS HOUR, as she foresaw it, would consist of three ofher shows running back-to-back - each in different lengths, from fifteen to twenty minutes depending on the plot - with characters from each occasionally overlapping and interacting. A narrating voice-over would navigate proceedings. It endured for a few months until Phillips abandoned the concept.(43)     By 1943, only a little over ten years after she began, Phillips was single-handedly responsible for five different daily dramas. Her total income from them was $250,000, and her literary output was estimated at two million words per year, the equivalent of forty novels.(44) She had established such a factory by this time that she found it necessary to have a lawyer and two doctors on retainer just to act as consultants.(45)     It was only later that Phillips reached the need for support writers, or "dialoguers," who filled out the basic story lines she devised. Many young writers who began with Phillips went on to successes of their own. In 1946 she hired a young recently graduated writer named Agnes Eckhardt, who later married and changed her name to Agnes Nixon.(46) Nixon would go on to create ALL MY CHILDREN and LOVING. Phillips also had a longtime collaborator in writer William Bell. After cocreating ANOTHER WORLD with Phillips, he went on to found with his wife Lee Phillip Bell two of the most successful soaps of recent years, THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS and, later, THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL.     Also in 1943, at near the same age her mother was when she herself was born, Phillips, unmarried and a career woman, adopted a child, Thomas Dirk. A year and a half later, Phillips adopted Katherine Louise.(47)     Throughout the 1940s Irna Phillips reigned as the undisputed queen of the radio soap opera. By the end of the decade a new medium was on the horizon and it would be that medium that Phillips (somewhat reluctantly) would conquer next.      By all accounts Irna Phillips was not anxious to move her shows from radio to television. With television, a fog horn could no longer substitute for the deck of a ship, and actors could no longer be brought in and replaced so easily. So reluctant was she to give up radio that after THE GUIDING LIGHT debuted on television on July 30, 1952, the scripts were rebroadcast that same day on radio. The two GUIDING LIGHTS ran concurrently on the two media for several years until finally the incredible success of the television version made the radio outlet obsolete.(48)     Around this time Proctor and Gamble [sic: My Note: This book spelled Procter and Gamble wrong over & over.], the soap manufacturer and a longtime force in soap opera broadcasting, began its long association with Phillips. Phillips sold the ownership of her current TV dramas to Proctor and Gamble Productions. Between the two of them (Phillips and P&G) they formed the biggest, toughest alliance daytime television had ever seen.(49)     In 1956 Phillips, in association with Proctor and Gamble, stormed onto television with what was to become her most popular (and some say, personal favorite) creation, AS THE WORLD TURNS. The continuing story of the Hughes and Lowell clans of Oakdale, Illinois, began on April 2, 1956, as TV's first half-hour soap. It was produced live until 1975 when it was lengthened to a hour. The show revolutionized daytime drama by gaining more viewers than ever before in the history of the genre (sometimes as high as a fifty percent share of the audience), and it launched soapdom's first all-out lying, scheming villainess, Lisa Miller (later, after marriage/s, Lisa Hughes, then Coleman, then Mitchell, then others). She was played by actress Eileen Fulton, who continues on the show to this day. Fulton's and the show's fame were so intense in the mid-1960s that CBS created a nighttime spin-off titled OUR PRIVATE WORLD. It, however, would only last a few  months.(50)     Irna Phillips's actual writing for her series, radio and television, was rather unusual. Every day at  nine in the morning Phillips sat down at a rickety, brown card table - the same one she had used for years - and began to devise that day's scripts from projected story lines often set down months in advance. From there she would dictate dialogue to her secretary and close friend, Rose Cooperman. "I really don't think I write," she said "I act."(51) Occasionally sitting still and occasionally moving around the room, moving as the character would, Phillips assumed all the characters in the scene - male, female, adult, child - changing her voice to indicate a change in speaker.(52) This process worked so well for Phillips it was later adopted by many of her proteges, including William Bell.(53)     As Phillips would talk, "Rosie," her secretary, would take down every word, following the various characters by following changes in Irna's voice and gestures. Rosie filled in the punctuation along the way. Both women became so involved with the story line they were creating that they found themselves in tears.(54)     The average time for Irna Phillips to dictate a half-hour script was about an hour and forty-five minutes. It usually took longer to type the finished manuscript than it did for Phillips to dream it up.(55) During Phillips's "writing" she seldom lost her place or became confused.  If she did, she could always consult one of her various genealogical charts she created for each show. They consisted of squares containing characters' names with solid lines connecting relatives, dotted lines connecting in-laws, and "X"'s over names of dead or missing family members.(56)     After the writing was finished Phillips would sit down and watch not only her shows but those of her competitors as well. While viewing her own shows, if she found something she did not like in script, performance, or production, it was switched immediately. This often meant a phone call to New York and a list of demands. A few times actors found themselves jobless after a phone call from Phillips. Not surprisingly, many actors, writers, and crew members feared Phillips's wrath. Once, when an actor playing what many thought an indispensable character asked for a raise in salary, Phillips refused and solved the whole problem by simply killing off the character. The show went on without him.(57) Don Hastings, who has played Dr. Bob Hughes on AS THE WORLD TURNS since 1960 (and wrote for the show for many years under the name J.J. Mathews), remembers Phillips as a tough but fair mother lion, ferocious in protecting her creation: "She was very tough on her writers but would protect them if the network or the producers criticized them. She always said that if she okayed a script it was as good as her writing it herself."(58)     Though Irna Phillips could be difficult, and a great many lived in constant fear of her, nobody would deny her skill. Don Hastings remembers a time when AS THE WORLD TURNS ratings had slipped. Owners Proctor and Gamble asked Phillips - then at work on another Proctor and Gamble show - to return and help WORLD. "Can you bring us up to a thirty share by the end of the year?" they asked. Phillips delivered the thirty share in thirteen weeks.(59)     Additionally, Phillips was not as difficult on a personal level as she might first appear. Throughout her career she was instrumental in starting other writers in their careers. Agnes Nixon, Bill Bell, and many other names benefitted from her support and guidance. Phillips was also known to take many young actors under her wing, sheltering and encouraging them.     In her life in Chicago, Phillips had a small but tight-knit group of friends and a fiercely devoted household staff. They admired and respected her enough to overlook her dramatic nature and her many pseudo-illnesses. Producer Lee Bell, who with her husband Bill created THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS and THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL, was a friend and coworker of Irna's for many years; she remembers an eccentric but likable person. "She was a genius," Bell said, "A brilliant, intelligent woman. You wanted to be around her. Whatever eccentricities [she had] didn't matter."(60)      In 1964 Phillips formulated a new series for NBC titled ANOTHER WORLD. The title referred to the separate "psychological worlds" of its characters and the two separate economic worlds of the show's two major families. Not accidently, it also drew comparison with the previous Phillips creation AS THE WORLD TURNS.(61)     ANOTHER WORLD was the first daytime soap to run one hour. It was also the first daytime show to address the topic of abortion.(62) Phillips invited controversy again in 1967 when she attempted to introduce an interracial story line into LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING, a show she was also writing at the time. When the network bosses balked at the idea, Phillips walked out. She abandoned the show, and it was canceled in 1973.(63)     Despite Phillips forward thinking, however, she did not always approve of the direction daytime shows were taking. She said in 1972: "The daytime serial is destroying itself, eating itself up with rape, abortion, illegitimacy, men falling in love with other men's wives, all of which is often topped by a murder, followed by a long, drawn-out murder trial.(64)     In 1964 ABC-TV put Irna Phillips, at age 63, on the payroll as a special consultant for its primetime soaper PEYTON PLACE, the serialized twice-weekly program based on the book by Grace Metalious. By taking the PEYTON PLACE job, Phillips achieved a rare triple play: she now had her hand in, and was receiving paychecks from, shows running on all three major networks.(65)     In 1965 Phillips cocreated DAYS OF OUR LIVES and composed what has since become arguably the most famous opening line for any show in television's history: "Like sands through the hour glass ..."(66)     All did not always flow smoothly, however. The early years of ANOTHER WORLD were filled with complications: major characters were thrown out with little explanation, and actors were replacedal,ost weekly. Frustrated, Phillips left ANOTHER WORLD to concentrate on a show for ABC that she was cocreating with her daughter (and was based on Irna's own life). That show would only air for a few months when it premiered. Agnes Nixon was later brought into ANOTHER WORLD as head writer to whip the show into shape.(67)     Since Irna Phillips had almost single-handedly created soap operas as a dramatic form years ago in radio, they had begun to change. The incedible success of her own AS THE WORLD TURNS made daytime soap operas an important, highly profitable part of the network schedule. To gain viewers and therefore money, soaps became more and more sensational. Gradually they became more scandalous, sexual, and action-oriented; Irna Phillips's stories of women sitting around the breakfast table were becoming passe. Phillips found herself being left behind by the genre she had created. Allen Potter, who worked on ANOTHER WORLD with Phillips during its difficult years, summed up the problem: "She was from a different era. [She was] still writing kids going down to the malt shop."(68)     Phillips was asked to rejoin AS THE WORLD TURNS in 1972.(69) She simplified some of the plots but failed to turn the recent ratings dip around. Proctor and Gamble, the show's producer, fired Phillips in 1973. Back in Chicago she began work on an autobiography, but nothing was ever published.(70)     On December 23, 1973, Irna Phillips died in her sleep at her home in Chicago. She was seventy-two. In accordance with her wishes news of her death was kept from the press for several weeks.(71)     What made Phillips a success - the Queen of the Soaps, as she was often called - is somewhat difficult to answer. Helen Wagner recently explained it this way: "We [AS THE WORLD TURNS] premiered the same day as EDGE OF NIGHT [a now defunct mystery-based soap on ABC]. What was important on that show was the story. For AS THE WORLD TURNS what was important was the character.(72) Phillips realized early in her career that the success of serialized stories depended on her audience becoming involved and knowledgeable about the characters on the show. She told BROADCASTING in 1972: "Characters have to be multidimensional. The story has to come from the characters, to the point where your viewers will get to know a character so well they can predict his or her behavior in a given dramatic situation."(73)     Phillips believes there were several reasons for her success, not the least of which was her self-described limited vocabulary ("my greatest asset"), which, she believed, made her programs universal. She also attempted in her writing to appeal to the basic instincts of self-preservation, sex, and family.(74)     Perhaps Phillips's greatest personal achievement, however, was creating a world. fully and believably, that she did not really know herself. Though she never married; nor did she give birth; nor did she ever own a  home. But somehow Irna Phillips knew enough about all those qualities to entertain millions for generations - to spin endlessly involving tales of day-to-day life; tales about the simple joys and daily dramas of paying the bills, raising children, belonging to a family, and falling in love.      Irna Phillips wrote in McCALL'S magazine in 1965, "None of us is different, except in degree. None of us is a stranger to success and failure, life and death, the need to be lovedthe struggle to communicate..."(75)     Four of the programs Irna Phillips created - AS THE WORLD TURNS, GUIDING LIGHT, DAYS OF OUR LIVES, and ANOTHER WORLD - are still on the air today.  IRNA PHILLIPS July 1, 1901        Born in Chicago, Illinois 1922             Graduated with bachelor's degree in education. 1924             Graduated with master's degree in speech; began career teaching school in Missouri and, later, Ohio. May 1930        Returned to Chicago; joined WGN as actress and ad hoc writer.  October 20, 1930    PAINTED DREAMS, radio's first "soap opera" debuted;created by Irna Phillips.  June 16, 1932        TODAY'S CHILDREN, second Phillips creation, premiered; departed WGN. 1934            MASQUERADE premiered.  1935            MASQUERADE aired last broadcast. January 25, 1937     THE GUIDING LIGHT premiered.  1938            TODAY'S CHILDREN aired final broadcast; ROAD OF LIFE and WOMAN IN WHITE premiered. October 16, 1939    THE RIGHT TO HAPPINESS premiered.  1940            Phillips moved briefly to New York City; would return to Chicago after six months.  1941            WOMEN ALONE premiered; settled court suit with WGN.  June 29, 1942        LONELY WOMEN (title later changed to TODAY'S CHILDREN) premiered.  1943            Resided briefly in Los Angeles; adopted son, Thomas Dirk. 1944            Adopted daughter, Katherine.  Summer 1948        WOMAN IN WHITE aired last broadcast. October 11, 1948    THE BRIGHTER DAY premiered on radio.  January 31, 1949    THESE ARE MY CHILDREN premiered. March 4, 1949        THESE ARE MY CHILDREN ended. 1950            Second incarnation of TODAY'S CHILDREN ended on radio. June 30, 1952        THE GUIDING LIGHT debuted on television. 1956            BRIGHTER DAY ended  on radio. January 4, 1954        THE BRIGHTER DAY premiered on television.  December 13, 1954    ROAD OF LIFE premiered on television; show ended broadcasts on radio. July 1, 1955        ROAD OF LIFE aired last broadcast on television. April 2, 1956        AS THE WORLD TURNS premiered. November 25, 1960    THE RIGHT TO HAPPINESS ended on radio. May 4, 1964        ANOTHER WORLD premiered.  1964            Worked as consultant on primetime's PEYTON PLACE. May 5, 1965        OUR PRIVATE WORLD, AS THE WORLD TURNS spin-off, premiered in primetime. September 10, 1965    OUR PRIVATE WORLD aired last episode. September 28, 1965    THE BRIGHTER DAY aired last broadcast on TV. November 8, 1965    DAYS OF OUR LIVES premiered. September 18, 1967    LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING, soap opera, premiered.  March 23, 1973        LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING aired last broadcast. Late 1973        Fired by Proctor and Gamble.  December 23, 1974    Passed away at home in Chicago.  NOTES 1.    "The Creators," TV GUIDE (Commemorative Edition) (July 1991), p.59. 2.    Dan Wakefield, ALL HER CHILDDREN (New York: Doubleday, 1976), p.27.  3.    CURRENT BIOGRAPHY (1943), p.590. 4.    Irna Phillips, "Every Woman's Life Is a Soap Opera," Mccall's (March 1965), p.116 5.    Ibid. 6.    Peter Wyden, "Madam Soap Opera," SATURDAY EVENING POST (25 June 1960), p.129. 7.    Barbara Sicherman and Carol Hurd Green, NOTABLE AMERICAN WOMEN: THE MODERN PERIOD (Cambridge: Belknap, 1980), p.542. 8.     "Script Queen," TIME (10 June 1940), p.66. 9.    Sicherman and Carol Hurd Green, p.542. 10.    "Writing On: Irna Phillips Mends With Tradition," BROADCASTING (6 November 1972), p.75 11.     Madeline Edmundson and David Rounds, THE SOAPS (New York: Stein & Day, 1973), p.43.     12.     CURRENT BIOGRAPHY, p.590 13.    Sicherman and Green, p.542. 14.    Robert C. Allen, SPEAKING OF SOAPS (CHapel Hill, NC: University of North Carolina, 1985), p.111.  15.     "Writing On: Irna Phillips Mends With Tradition," p.75. 16.     Edmundson and Rounds, p.44. 17.     Allen, p.112. 18.     Wyden, p.130. 19.     Ibid. 20.     CURRENT BIOGRAPHY, p.590. 21.     "Queen of the Soaps," NEWSWEEK (11 May 1964), p.66. 22.    Sicherman and Green, p.543. 23.     Wyden, p.130. 24.    Sicherman and Green, p.259. 25.    CURRENT BIOGRAPHY, p.519. 26.     "With Significance," TIME (11 June 1945), p.46. 27.     CURRENT BIOGRAPHY, p.590. 28.    Wyden, p.129. 29.    Interview with Lee Bell (4 September 1991). All other information and quotes from Mrs. Bell in this chapter were taken from this interview. 30.    Interview with Don Hastings (5 December 1991). All other information and quotes from Mr. Hastings in this chapter were taken from this interview.  31.    Wyden, p.129. 32.    Robert LaGuardia, SOAP WORLD (New York: Arbor House, 1983), p.20. 33.    Wyden, p.129 34.    Interview with Helen Wagner (10 October 1991). All other information and quotes from Ms. Wagner in this chapter were taken from this interview. 35.     Ibid., p.130. 36.    "Script Queen," p.66. 37.    Wyden, p.127. 38.     Wagner interview. 39.    Wyden, p.127. 40.    Phillips, p.117. 41.    Wyden, p.127. 42.    Ibid., p.130. 43.    Ibid. 44.    CURRENT BIOGRAPHY, P.591. 45.    "Script Queen,"p.68. 46.    Wakefield, p.28. 47.    Sicherman and Green, p.543. 48.    Wyden, p.130.  49.    Ibid. 50.    Tim Brooks and Earle Marsh, THE COMPLETE DIRECTORY TO PRIME TIME NETWORK TV SHOWS(New York: Ballantine, 1981), p.571. 51.    Wyden, p.129. 52.    Phillips, p.168. 53.    Bell interview. 54.    Wyden, p.30. 55.    Ibid. 56.    Phillips, p.168. 57.    CURRENT BIOGRAPHY, p.591. 58.    Hastings interview. 59.    Ibid. 60.    Bell interview. 61.    LaGuardia, p.81. 62.    Ibid. 63.     Jean Rouverol, WRITING FOR THE SOAPS (Cincinnati, OH: Writer's Digest Books,1984), p.11. 64.    "Writing On: Irna Phillips Mends with Tradition," p.75. 65.    "Queen of the Soaps," NEWSWEEK (11 May 1964), p.66. 66.    Rouverol, p.11. 67.     La Guardia, p.81. 68.     Ibid. 69.    "Week's Headliners," BROADCASTING (17 January 1972), p.9. 70.    LaGuardia, p.81. 71.    Landry, p.71. 72.    Wagner interview. 73.    "Writing On: Irna Phillips Mends with Tradition," p.75. 74.    Sicherman and Green, p.542. 75.    Phillips, p.116.
    • So, Roman admitted that everything he did was to protect Johnny. I like that. It adds another dynamic to this storyline. And it’s also a much better use of the character of Roman. He’s been stuck in the Pub for too long lol I’m also really liking the way that Roman and Kate’s relationship has been written lately. As for Josh Taylor’s voice… no comment

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      And speaking of relationships, I’ve also been seeing improvements in the relationships between Johnny and Paulina as well. I enjoyed their scenes today. They really feel more like an actual mother in law and son in law. I’m cringing a little at the way that Paulina would’ve been written had Ron stayed on a little longer. This type of writing is the exact thing that the character of Paulina needed, especially for a storyline like this.  I am a little intrigued with the idea of EJ and Xander going head to head over buying the hospital too, mostly because of how it could drive other storylines, couples, etc.,like EJ and Belle. Him basically using Belle as his own personal fixer, both with Johnny and the hospital board could lead to something interesting happening in the future. And Philip, doing whatever he can in order to get back in Xander’s good graces is a good addition to this storyline as well.  Btw, I don’t dislike it at all but I still can’t believe that they’re 

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      And yeah, sorry, I know that Days means well but I think they’re making a little too much out of this Xander/Felicity thing. But Xander and Sarah were sweet today. I’m looking forward to seeing everything between them get blown to hell.  Seriously, one of the worst, if not the worst, team in soap history. 
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