Dallas 2.0: Discussion Thread

I LUVed Bum's trying to get JohnRoss back on the better pathe---"grow into your father's greatness, not his weaknesses" (or some such...it's close) was a great line.

The thing for me with that line is, JR did no great things and wasn't a great man in any sense. I love him and he is the best soap villain ever, but within the show the guy only did terrible things and often failed, needing to be bailed out by his mother, father and brother. I don't think anyone can point to a single thing in Dallas canon that qualifies as an example of greatness on JR's part.

 

 

Question about the original series. Were there any black people on it and if so was JR a racist?

 

The show never addressed race.  I don't think a single Ewing dated anyone not white except for the dream season when JR did business with the south american spanish beauty.   There is nothing in the show to indicate JR was a racist, although it would not be unreasonable to assume that going by his age and conventional wisdom about the south. 

 

I don't think JR even blackmailed anyone who was black.   They just didn't exist in that world, and I would guess that was reflective of the Texas oil community circa 1980?    The hostess of the bar was black and everyone was always respectful and polite to her.   There is one cringe worthy scene from the mini series with Jock and two black workers.  While their dialogue and depiction is cringe worthy, Jock doesn't show any racist traits.

 

Interesting - Josh Henderson was credited second in the 3x1 opening, but in 3x2 he and Metcalfe swaped places and JH is now credited first.

The thing for me with that line is, JR did no great things and wasn't a great man in any sense. I love him and he is the best soap villain ever, but within the show the guy only did terrible things and often failed, needing to be bailed out by his mother, father and brother. I don't think anyone can point to a single thing in Dallas canon that qualifies as an example of greatness on JR's part.

JR was a lying, amoral sonofabitch---but the show has made no bones about JR's business acumen and strategic manipulative prowess. It's not about being some kind of saint, but follow in JR's business footsteps and stop screwing around (which always got JR in trouble).

Interesting - Josh Henderson was credited second in the 3x1 opening, but in 3x2 he and Metcalfe swaped places and JH is now credited first.

They've flip-flopped like that since the start. I don't know why...I think Patrick Duffy should be first anyway.

I know this is a little off-topic but does anybody watch Step By Step on The Hub? it's interesting to see Patrick Duffy in a role that's funny and he's a little bit of a goof. They just reran the whole serise once so they are on their second run. Also we get a chance to see Sasha Mitchell as crazy Cody. Dallas fans know him as JR's oldest son (i don't beleive he's been mentioned on the new show...not even when JR passed.)

It's kind of amazing about Patrick Duffy's career. I think he said he went like a week between Man from Atlantis and Dallas and then two weeks between Dallas and Step By Step. so except for the season where he was "dead", Patrick worked pretty steadly from 1977 to 1998. I think we can count on one hand television actors who've gotten that lucky...in that small space of time.

OMG at this little old lady snorting that white powder....loving this mom of rylands.

Julie Gonzalo and Josh Henderson continue to be the only thing that keeps me glued to the screen.

Still enjoying the show, but I would have liked a little more oomph in this evening's episode. That was like a Tuesday on a daytime soap cliffhanger. I just don't care enough about Nicholas to give a damn.

Why the hell does Elena want revenge anyway? 'Cause JR screwed her father? That was JR...and he's now dead. Maybe I've just forgotten something, but this makes no sense to me. The Ewings weren't behind her brother's problems, that was Ryland. WTF would she take Cliff's word, when he coldly ordered her brother to blow up that rig with Pambecca on it?

I don't see her motivation either but this season is gold compared to season two. I like that there has been slightly less Ann and that Emma and Elena are now stirring up trouble, though I still wouldn't mind them to be recast or replaced with new characters.

I definitely agree this is a better season. Less Christopher and his who should I !@#$%^&*] problems, less Elena and less Ann and Ryland.

I wish Pambecca were a little less clueless, but in general, it's going in the right direction as Bobby and John Ross battle over Southfork.

Now we have some good old family action coming up next Monday. Afton slaps John Ross, argues with Sue Ellen. Ray wonders where John Ross is. Sue Ellen hitting the flask. This is going to be a fun episode. Play it up with friends and family so people watch it live.

Next week looks really good!

Spoiler alert!

Second half of season 3 debuts August 18 at 8 pm

http://tvline.com/2014/03/14/tnt-premiere-dates-rizzoli-isles-major-crimes/

That sure is late. It would have been better had it returned in July. How many episodes are there in the first half?