That is OK. But you do kind of make it seem like Billy Miller is to blame for it all.

He doesn't help.

Edited July 17, 201015 yr by Amello

He doesn't help.

Introducing the NEW Nikki Newman

Darius/Malcolm better quadruple the number of sandwiches he makes.

he's a screwup, he knows it and he doesnt put himself out there as if he's anything less.

If that were the case he wouldn't go on the moral lectures he tends to go on with people he doesn't like. Jill, or the Newmans he resents, or Abby, or whoever.

They want it both ways with Billy. They want him to be a "bad boy" but they also want viewers to like him and see him as a good guy.

That is OK. But you do kind of make it seem like Billy Miller is to blame for it all.

I mostly blame Sheffer -- Miller is just one of the many one-note actors pushed to the forefront (Heinle, Braeden, Morrow, et al).

nikki marrying the old fart again. really i would rather they kill nikki/mts than have her propping EB tired ass.

Darius/Malcolm better quadruple the number of sandwiches he makes.

LOLOL

Darius/Malcolm better quadruple the number of sandwiches he makes.

Can someone explain. Ive seent his alot but dont get the sandwich jokes with him

If that were the case he wouldn't go on the moral lectures he tends to go on with people he doesn't like. Jill, or the Newmans he resents, or Abby, or whoever.

They want it both ways with Billy. They want him to be a "bad boy" but they also want viewers to like him and see him as a good guy.

That just makes him a hypocrite. I dont see the show trying to portray him as a good guy

Can someone explain. Ive seent his alot but dont get the sandwich jokes with him

Most scenes involving Malcolm would be of him saying he's going to or actually making sandwiches, salads, serving water, and other busboy duties.

Billy NEVER pretended to be anything other than what he is: A PIG!!!! Chance spoonfed Chloe (and the audience) a kind of purity that seemed to only exist in fairy tales. And he berated and belittled Billy every step of the way for his indecent behavior towards women. Now Chance decides to drop his panties for a woman who throws him a couple of compliments? Did he forget that he was engaged to be married to ANOTHER woman? Hypocrite!

I don't think that Chance was deceiving Chloe with his purity or anything like that. Just because Billy doesn't pretend to be anything than what he is doesn't mean he can't be called out on his shi!t. Chance has to stay perfect all the time and be called boring or make a human plot driven mistake and be called a hypocrite. It's not like he's banging Heather while berating Billy.

Other than work-related issues, Billy has not been in Chance and Chloe's orbit for a while now. He's been firmly planted in Victoria's orbit. Billy even told Chloe at one point that he thought Chance was good for her. I simply do not embrace the notion that Chance was turned into a cheat in order to prop Billy.

This is more plot driven angst than anything else. If it was to prop anyone, it would be Ronan not Billy. It doesn't matter anyways because

Chance is being shipped off the show

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I don't think that Chance was deceiving Chloe with his purity or anything like that. Just because Billy doesn't pretend to be anything than what he is doesn't mean he can't be called out on his shi!t. Chance has to stay perfect all the time and be called boring or make a human plot driven mistake and be called a hypocrite. It's not like he's banging Heather while berating Billy.

This is more plot driven angst than anything else. If it was to prop anyone, it would be Ronan not Billy. It doesn't matter anyways because

Chance is being shipped off the show

.

It was Chance who PREACHED purity for a YEAR, not Billy! LOL! I've always expected Billy to be called out on his $hit, but NOW I expect Chance to be called out on his $hit too! Chance's "perfection" being labeled as boring was something that the writers could've fixed differently. For the most part, Chance was boring, but they could've found various ways to liven him up or dismiss him without making him a cheat, that is, if in their minds they actually did this to liven him up or dismiss him. Could be, they were planning to dirty him up all along after presenting him so "perfectly." Chance should not have banged Heather at all!!!! Period! If he was horny, he had an equally horny fiancee across the hall who would've been all-too-ready to get laid with him. But instead, he so easily sleeps with a woman who he really showed no interest in, who merely complimented him and he's turned on by the compliments? Really? LOL! I do believe TPTB brought Ronan in as Chance's replacement BTW!

Edited July 18, 201015 yr by Vanguardian

Oh wow. Talk about a lack of chemistry you have with Chance and Heather. I can't get over how unsexy she is, lol. I actually do kinda enjoy Chloe with Kevin, but more as friends. He's such a draining character in a romantic relationship.

If you ask me, I think the whole lot of them -- not just Chance, Chloe, Heather and Kevin, but Billy, Devon, Jana, Mac, Ryder, Victoria and even Abby, Adam, Cane and Lily -- all share this incredible ability to generate absolutely no chemistry with anyone whatsoever. I don't know whether it's b/c they're generally too asexual or metrosexual; or b/c they're all "selfish" actors who can't (or won't) listen to their on-screen partners and not just simply wait for their next turn to speak; or even b/c the stories are just that bad, but.... Years ago, my aunt was told she couldn't have any more kids b/c her reproductive organs were literally killing her then-husband's sperm. It's kind of the same idea w/ this group of actors; anytime even a little chemistry sneaks into any one of their respective on-screen relationships, the actors involved find a way to kill it.

In fact, about the only ones who can generate chemistry are Thad Luckinbill's J.T. and Graz's Daniel -- but since both are practically chained to Mac and Abby, respectively, I wouldn't blame you for not believing me!

But folks, THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS is supposed to be about S-E-X. Who's getting it (from someone other than the one they should be getting it from) and who isn't (and the havoc it's wreaking on their inner psyches). So when there's a dearth of "heat" on a show like this? I'm just saying, somebody needs to wake up and do something.

Edited July 19, 201015 yr by Khan

Khan,I think the lack of 'chemistry' is due to a number of factors -some of which you listed.

The shallowness of the writing and characterization,the speedy pace from one plot point to the next and the lack of rehearsal time/one take taping all contribute to this.

Something else: why does Rain Man Jana hold herself these days like a decrepit old woman? Whose cockamamie choice was that? You're brain damaged, honey, not the Queen Mother!