The Lady Gaga Thread

[Soaplovers]

Adele only has one good song... I think the problem is hype. If any other artist released Born this way.. it would be viewed as a nice tribute to the 80's. However, since it was Gaga, it got over hyped as the cd of the decade. So when you buy it, it will disappoint, no matter how good it is.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Something she hyped up all by herself...

Edited June 17, 2011 by Y&RWorldTurner

[All My Shadows]

BTW the album is boring as hell. The songs either have some weird religious subtext or just continue to push the Glee-like notion that people who are different can be obnoxious assholes and get away with it.

[Adam]

This chick should just stick to her voice and piano.

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[All My Shadows]

I really dislike that song. "I am my hair?" Really? REALLY? Girl, no. Sing about how you don't have define yourself by physical objects that can be taken away from you in the first place.

And the chorus sounds like Edge of Glory.

[Adam]

I think its going to be the next single too, based on the promo she seems to be doing for it.

And for fun:

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Edited June 22, 2011 by Adam

[YRBB]

I liked the album. It is not the second coming of pop music but I like it; it's fun, entertaining, does some unexpected things.

I'm not necessarily referring to people here but a little objectivity wouldn't hurt; some people hate her gimmicks/persona so much that it spills over to their judgment of her music. By all accounts, I have heard much, much worse than her, and better. Granted, she shouldn't have said that it's the best album of the decade but if she doesn't hype herself, then who will?

[Y&RWorldTurner]

I go back to Adele, who is mentioned in this thread. She doesn't hype herself up, and currently, she's the most successful singer in the world. She lets her music do the speaking and it's word of mouth that has given her whatever hype she has. So, no, I don't necessarily think an artist has to hype their selves up if the music doesn't do enough speaking on its own.

Granted, Stefani and Adele are two different artists, but the same rule should ideally apply. Let the music do the speaking. Truth be told, I dislike Gaga's personality and her gimmicks, but her music is pretty damn standard and nothing resembling the innovation she and her diehard fans claim it to be. Perhaps, it would be easier to take if she and her posse weren't constantly on a rampage about how great and different her music is, because it's not and it's done before, and in a lot of cases, it's been done way better. If she didn't have the gimmicks or general cheap repetitive tactics, I would still think so.

Edited June 22, 2011 by Y&RWorldTurner

[YRBB]

Oh, I agree that it would be great if the music was allowed to speak for itself and the whole hype/promotion business was left behind. Adele is a singer with good songs and a great voice and I love her, but she's just one example, the exception really. Where would Rihanna, Britney, etc be without hype? It's almost synonymous with pop (a whole different discussion, this).

Granted, GaGa has taken it much further than just hype. In all honesty, I enjoy her crazy appearances. I too think it's become too much and is drowning her credibility but she's exactly what pop is supposed to be: Over the top, of the moment, fun. Magnified, of course. I know that people would still not like her stuff even despite her gimmicks. However, there are a lot who claim her music is terrible because they really can't stand the persona. It's, literally, their only argument when asked. Which is interesting.

[All My Shadows]

IDK, it doesn't always have to be all about the music. If Adele is all about the music and letting it speak for itself, that's great. Gaga is a different type of artist, though, and a huge part of her package is the bizarreness of her performances. The performance is probably even a bigger part than the actual music, and I don't have a problem with that because it's what she chooses to do with her career.

My issue lies more with the overzealous fans, which I know I'm repeating, but jeez. The crazy fans (key word: crazy) are so defensive of everything she says and does because they've foreclosed on their own identities to the point of her being them, and so an unfavorable opinion of Gaga is interpreted as an unfavorable opinion on themselves.

[Adam]

You've hit the nail right on the head. Especially the bolded part. Whether intentional or not, she has created it herself. Quite the smart move on her part. She though will have to walk a fine line the rest of her career and not alienate that rabid, crazy fanbase of hers. They could just as easily turn on her.

[Soaplovers]

This is actually funny.. but I was visiting my mom and the video for 'Edge of Glory' came on.. my mom was on her laptop and like a minute into the show she looks up and stares at the tv.. then turns to me and says 'does she realize how much she sounds like Madonna?'.

I explained how Gaga was saying how her music is unique and ground-breaking, etc.. and my mom said 'she is totally mimicking Madonna from music to vocal stylings to the point that I thought it was Madonna singing before I looked up and saw that meat girl on the tv screen'. If I dare broach to a hard-core Gaga fan that she is mimicking Madonna.. I get looks of how dare I compare Gaga to that inferior creature.. and I'm like 'um, I can look at any gimmick that Gaga does except the meat dress and know instantly when Madonna did it first'.

Now, I'm not saying I don't like Gaga because she does have some killer music.. but I think she goes too far sometimes with her over-the-top stunts. Plus, I think she does more harm then good for the gay movement.. an honest opinion from a gay dude.

[JellicleCat]

Does anyone really think that Madonna is inferior to Lady Gaga??!!

They need a reality check if that's the case. Lady Gaga is nowhere near Madonna in any way.

[AllMyDaysatGH]

Lady Gaga's opening at the VMA's tonight was AMAZING. I just saw it. I seriously did not recognize her at first! She did an outstanding job!

LOVE HER.

[All My Shadows]

I was done with the Jo [!@#$%^&*] almost as soon as it started. She crapped all over Britney's "moment" (which wasn't much of a moment but whatever) and was just generally weird. She looked so whack when she fell off the piano, and Adele's in the audience, just looking like "Oh...my....okay?"