Mordor has arrived

Is that the new nickname for Aunt Jack?!

1) He has a wife and family to support; and 2) I think even he realizes he isn't the greatest thespian, so he's grateful just to be working.

And it's better to be Bottom Bitch than Unemployed Bitch.

Is that the new nickname for Aunt Jack?!

Nope.

The cult.

Who is "Mordor"? Is that being directed toward me?

Is that being directed toward me?

No.

The orc footsoldiers know who they are.

I believe VR wants to return to Y&R, b/c Drucilla's one of the best AA female characters ever created; but she's not going to grovel to do it.

Robin Strasser returned despite being "controversial" & a "diva".

As have Tony Geary, Kim Zimmer, Tristan Rogers, Genie Francis, Maeve Kinkead, Elizabeth Hubbard, Cady McClain, Eva LaRue, Vanessa Marcil, Beth Ehlers & so on.

Edited March 13, 201015 yr by DeeeDee

They are white.

They can do WHATEVER they want without consequence & not only are they not punished but are REWARDED for their actions.

Yep. I'm whiter than CKLily and even I can see that racism is alive and well in daytime and sexism is keeping it company. The Winter's family is on life support without Dru and I think TPTB like it that way. It's so obvious that they don't want to write for these characters. Dru was the one with the huge support and fanbase, so without her they don't have fans demanding to see the Winter's like they did before. And if VR were really the whole problem why didn't they recast Dru or Tyra or bring on other minorities? Because they don't want to and they're arrogant enough to think they don't have to. But that 3.7 isn't going to hold forever.

They are white.

They can do WHATEVER they want without consequence & not only are they not punished but are REWARDED for their actions.

Look at OLTL ratings are falling but WHO are the ones that were fired?

The minorities.

And it's worse for Y&R but Mordor has arrived to try to derail the conversation.

As usual.

Of course, Dee Dee... Bergman and Braeden are also MEN. Dickson was white, and when she tried to throw her weight around like Braeden does... she got thrown under the bus. So there could be a little sexism at work as well, especially considering the salary difference between Jeanne and Eric. I understand how Melody would have been above that, married to the Exec. Producer..... and of course, Lauralee was immune to EVERYTHING (Luckily, she has a sweet personality... so it didn't bother people) I still don't understand what hold Stafford has on things. THAT is what is a mystery to me.

Robin Strasser returned despite being "controversial" & a "diva".

As have Tony Geary, Kim Zimmer, Tristan Rogers, Genie Francis, Maeve Kinkead, Elizabeth Hubbard, Cady McClain, Eva LaRue, Vanessa Marcil, Beth Ehlers & so on.

Yeah, and they're all Caucasian, too. (Well, except for Marcil and LaRue, of course.) I'm not saying TPTB are racist, per se, but their history don't exactly dispel the notion.

Yep. I'm whiter than CKLily and even I can see that racism is alive and well in daytime and sexism is keeping it company. The Winter's family is on life support without Dru and I think TPTB like it that way. It's so obvious that they don't want to write for these characters. Dru was the one with the huge support and fanbase, so without her they don't have fans demanding to see the Winter's like they did before. And if VR were really the whole problem why didn't they recast Dru or Tyra or bring on other minorities? Because they don't want to and they're arrogant enough to think they don't have to. But that 3.7 isn't going to hold forever.

Exactly.

The MINUTE Vicky left so did the minority support

TPTB couldn't even respect Tonya & Kristoff enough to even ACT like they wanted to write for them & the way TPTB have done Bryton & Tatyana is even worse.

And let's not even discuss how Hispanics, Asians & Gays are treated.

Of course, Dee Dee... Bergman and Braeden are also MEN. Dickson was white, and when she tried to throw her weight around like Braeden does... she got thrown under the bus. So there could be a little sexism at work as well, especially considering the salary difference between Jeanne and Eric.

Sexism definitely exists & it's worse than ever in Daytime but there's no comparison with Brenda though.

Brenda really IS crazy.

But TPTB won't even write for JEANNE their most recent Best Actress or Jess one of their past Best Actresses beyond being victims who need men to rescue them.

Edited March 13, 201015 yr by DeeeDee

Yeah, and they're all Caucasian, too. (Well, except for Marcil and LaRue, of course.) I'm not saying TPTB are racist, per se, but their history don't exactly dispel the notion.

I think it depends on how you define the word. At the very least it's clear that they feel no obligation to be inclusive. It's 2010 and not only is Y&R struggling to include AA characters,

but gays, Asians, Latinos and liberated women are no where to be found. It's surreal.

It's surreal.

EXACTLY.

Exactly.

The MINUTE Vicky left so did the minority support

TPTB couldn't even respect Tonya & Kristoff enough to even ACT like they wanted to write for them & the way TPTB have done Bryton & Tatyana is even worse.

And let's not even discuss how Hispanics, Asians & Gays are treated.

Exactly! But then, I think about how TPTB can't even write what they know (rich, white people) and I shudder to think of Maria and Co. trying to write for anyone else.

Exactly! But then, I think about how TPTB can't even write what they know (rich, white people) and I shudder to think of Maria and Co. trying to write for anyone else.

Touche!

And Maria's lucky PETA hasn't picketed CBS yet.

She screwed more animals than Charlie Sheen.

1) He has a wife and family to support; and 2) I think even he realizes he isn't the greatest thespian, so he's grateful just to be working.

Remember, too, Cliff Warner could be a complete idiot sometimes; and yet, PB stayed in that role (on AMC) for over 10 years.

Very true.... I only know Cliff though from reading storyline synopsis and the odd clip. I was only 4 years old when he left AMC, well was fired. Was he a Ryan Lavery type character? Sanctimonious, always trying to be the hero but failing miserably? lol.