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Question: Was Ed's house [on this episode above] the same house we'd see in later years of the show? Or did he move into his mother's house after her death? This always boggled my mind. And if Ed's house was the official Bauer home in later years, why did they never make reference [like in the episode above] that Alan was their next door neighbor?

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That was always Ed's house. When Mo and Ed broke up when he was mooning over Holly she said something like.."This was never my house, it was always the house Ed lived in with his WIVES." which is weird as that kitchen later never lost its association with Mo.

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Ed moved into the house on the hill, by the Spauldings and the Lakeland Country Club, while married to Rita. Before that, he lived in much less posh surroundings. Bert only moved into the house years later when she was in the wheelchair, so it wasn't ever really Bert's home...

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Question: Was Ed's house [on this episode above] the same house we'd see in later years of the show? Or did he move into his mother's house after her death? This always boggled my mind. And if Ed's house was the official Bauer home in later years, why did they never make reference [like in the episode above] that Alan was their next door neighbor?

Poor Hillary, the date from Hell!

Medical Examiner Dr. Clarke is played by Roy Poole a veteran of many soaps.

Nice to see Barbara Berjer, I loved her on AW.

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That was that whole weird writing at that time. Alan, who was mostly a toothless villain in the last decade of GL..finally does something that actually has an impact, and they have this wussy guy who is falling all over the dreaded Gus...suddenly be heartless. I thought they were going to write him as being remoresefull but hiding it...you know, in a justfied Alan thing, it was the dumb hired killer' fault or Jonathon. I just thought it was weird that Alan who took on Roger and Alex, Billy, Vanessa, H.B. etc. not figuring out another way to get rid of Jonathon.

It was also weird that Alex had no reaction about this. This would have been the perfect time to re ignite Alex, who lost her own ealry 20s son, who sees Alan is responsible for Tammy's death, sees that he is power mad and takes every effort to punish him in her own Alex way. They had Beth be upset over Tammy for 2 seconds and then she is trying to get it on with Alan. Just weird writing, good ideas but they were afraid to actually have any implications like having Alan jailed, his family against him, etc. So it took the bite out of it.

That's exactly how I felt about Kreizman's writing. There were some good ideas. Even brilliant ones that could have turned the ship around, but absolutely zilch in the way of execution. Some of it wasn't their fault (Laura Wright leaving) and some of it was (Not securing Peter Simon BEFORE writing a story arc on Roger's death and then being gobsmacked when he turned them down and then writing a really poor tribute to Zaz).

Talking about Laura Wright in the later years of GL, I've always wondered how much better the Reva/Cassie/Josh triangle would have been with her in the role. I never really liked Cassie, but LW was the actor with the history and the rapport with Reva. NF was not only a different character, but lacked any of the context that would have made the story work.

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That's exactly how I felt about Kreizman's writing. There were some good ideas. Even brilliant ones that could have turned the ship around, but absolutely zilch in the way of execution. Some of it wasn't their fault (Laura Wright leaving) and some of it was (Not securing Peter Simon BEFORE writing a story arc on Roger's death and then being gobsmacked when he turned them down and then writing a really poor tribute to Zaz).

Talking about Laura Wright in the later years of GL, I've always wondered how much better the Reva/Cassie/Josh triangle would have been with her in the role. I never really liked Cassie, but LW was the actor with the history and the rapport with Reva. NF was not only a different character, but lacked any of the context that would have made the story work.

Like I say, I wonder how LW would've done Tammy dying and then her brief descent to madness, when Cassie saw her ghost

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From what I understand, the only reason the Josh/Reva/Cassie triangle happened at all was because LW was not there anymore to oppose it.

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I think Nicole Forrester was a chance to reinvent the character, as Laura Wright had grown very hard and cold. Unfortunately GL just didn't do much justice to it.

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To me, the problem lay with the casting of NF, who seemed "nice" enough, but who also could be bland and forgettable. Cassie was just too important to the show at that point to be recast with someone whose prior claim to fame was an appearance in an Olive Garden commercial.

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Nicole Forrester was not untalented, but at the same time she was basically a nonentity on the show. I wasn't some big fan of Cassie, but she was a completely different character. It was bizarre.

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Nicole was a good actress just wasn't Cassie.

I would think losing two men shed love via death would've made anyone hard as nails. Let alone the hardships she went through pre show.

Cassie should've stayed the hardened anti heroine.. imho

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I'm watching an episode from June 1984. Very odd to see old characters I didn't realize overlapped with what became more my GL (Phillip Beth etc). Seems clear something was in the works with mike Bauer and Alexandra. So what really happened with mike and hope? Were the actors fired or did the quit? I can't really believe Pam long wanted mike off because clearly something is being set up with mike and Alex it seems - and my understanding is Beverlee McKinsey coming on was a casting coup so odd don Stewart would have been angry about a pairing. So what's the real story on what happened with the Bauers?

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There was a lot of talk about this in previous pages - the gist seems to be that Elvera Roussel was fired, possibly over her objecting to a story, and Don Stewart wasn't happy with story and the exit was mutual.

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