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Y&R: Shocking Role Recast

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I am so upset!

My scattered thoughts:

We don't know everything. Engen hasn't spoken and we only have the point of view of people who don't like his decision.

MAB and the Bells have every right to be angry. Actors need to do their scripts as written. That being said, I think it's short-sighted and foolish to push an actor beyond his comfort zone. I was a strong advocate for a Rafe/Adam story but I was an even bigger advocate for establishing the Adam character as the next generation villain. I am disappointed that Engen couldn't deal with the gay story, but it's hard for me to judge him when we know that are several closeted gay actors on the set.

Soapcentral is speculating that Engen walked because of his religious beliefs. I dread that being true for so many reasons but since he was also upset about Adam's sinister turn, that would make sense.

If Engen did quit for religious reasons, then he needs to rethink the Hollywood scene. There's a Christian film industry out there and maybe that's where he belongs. Even if Engen resolves his contract problem with the Bells, no soap or mainstream show will want to hire someone (perhaps unfairly) perceived as a homophobe.

As for the recast, he's a good actor, so I wish him luck.

Look what happened to that dude on Greys. He ruined his career and he and his family were evicted from their place.

A gay from South Of Nowhere did the samething because of Spashley and i haven't heard tell of him since.

As for other soaps i'm sure Frons would pick him up for ABC soap. He sure wouldn't have to worry about any gay stuff!

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So disappointed in CE.

QUOTE (Chris B @ May 21 2009, 10:59 AM)
Nelson posted in the comments section on DC that Engen is 100% gone. On Tuesday his agents informed the Y&R execs that he WILL NOT return. Nelson said it's just his speculation that he'll return because what are the chances he can afford to buy out his contract? But I think Y&R will just sue him for breach, recast and move on. Honestly, this is very shocking to me in this day and age. As manipulative as Adam has become, I highly doubt he's going to be written as gay. This is probably just another manipulation to build an allie in Rafe. I personally love how they're writing Adam as a villian. I don't think he's gone too overboard where he can't be redeemed. He's unique and a total throwback to the late 80s/early 90s Y&R thinking villians. I'll miss the chemistry with Eilleen Davidson, Amelia Heinle, Eric Braeden and especially Vail Bloom.

Excleent post Chris and I totally agree with you.

Alleged Adam recast is here.

This is unconfirmed yet, so assume this is a spumor.

He is cute but can he act.

ITA. I don't need to see anyone grab the lube but I'm all for a little romantic manlovin'.

:lol::lol:

I am going to reach Chris Engen : if he ever wants to give us his version.

Eh...he's lost major points with me. He should just hide under a rock.

Damn, this sucks!

CE was awesome in the role of Adam.

Yup!

Chris Engen is Adam. It will be difficult to see someone else in the role.

Exactly

Absolutely! I refuse to watch Muhney in that role. I can't imagine Engen and probably will never be able to accept this recast. It sucks, big time.

A very huge disappointment for me as a Y&R viewer.

I will continue to watch.

I going to assume that CE and Clemintine Ford won't be doing lunch anytime soon.

:lol:

I'm sure going to miss Chris's body that's for sure.

Eh..read my above post....he is in the gutter on my list now....LOL

Homophobes who break contract because they "don't wanna play a fag" just break my heart.

So true Vee.

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Don't get me wrong, I'll continue to watch as well, I'm just shocked by all of this.

I hope Muhney can do good. But still, :(.

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I am so upset!

My scattered thoughts:

We don't know everything. Engen hasn't spoken and we only have the point of view of people who don't like his decision.

MAB and the Bells have every right to be angry. Actors need to do their scripts as written. That being said, I think it's short-sighted and foolish to push an actor beyond his comfort zone. I was a strong advocate for a Rafe/Adam story but I was an even bigger advocate for establishing the Adam character as the next generation villain. I am disappointed that Engen couldn't deal with the gay story, but it's hard for me to judge him when we know that are several closeted gay actors on the set.

Soapcentral is speculating that Engen walked because of his religious beliefs. I dread that being true for so many reasons but since he was also upset about Adam's sinister turn, that would make sense.

If Engen did quit for religious reasons, then he needs to rethink the Hollywood scene. There's a Christian film industry out there and maybe that's where he belongs. Even if Engen resolves his contract problem with the Bells, no soap or mainstream show will want to hire someone (perhaps unfairly) perceived as a homophobe.

As for the recast, he's a good actor, so I wish him luck.

Girl - I am SO upset! You just convinced me to like Adam's direction and now the actor's a total douche. If this turns into another Miss California thing, it'll be good for Y&R to get the publicity but it'll be really hurtful. I'm a gay actor, but I have str8 actor friends who would kill to get this good a role. In this economy, he quits??? I have such a problem with "moral" actors who have no problem killing, screwing everyone, and doing the worst of things on-screen only to draw the line at a same-sex KISS! I am SO sick of this crap.

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Soapcentral is speculating that Engen walked because of his religious beliefs. I dread that being true for so many reasons but since he was also upset about Adam's sinister turn, that would make sense.

If Engen did quit for religious reasons, then he needs to rethink the Hollywood scene. There's a Christian film industry out there and maybe that's where he belongs. Even if Engen resolves his contract problem with the Bells, no soap or mainstream show will want to hire someone (perhaps unfairly) perceived as a homophobe.

I just don't get it. If you are uber-religious enough to turn down roles because of it...WTF ARE YOU DOING ON THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS, or any other soap for that matter?

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Girl - I am SO upset! You just convinced me to like Adam's direction and now the actor's a total douche. If this turns into another Miss California thing, it'll be good for Y&R to get the publicity but it'll be really hurtful. I'm a gay actor, but I have str8 actor friends who would kill to get this good a role. In this economy, he quits??? I have such a problem with "moral" actors who have no problem killing, screwing everyone, and doing the worst of things on-screen only to draw the line at a same-sex KISS! I am SO sick of this crap.

Ditto...Ditto...Word....So much word!!

I just don't get it. If you are uber-religious enough to turn down roles because of it...WTF ARE YOU DOING ON THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS, or any other soap for that matter?

It's ridiculous. He needs to get out the business then and do something else with his life.

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Ditto...Ditto...Word....So much word!!

It's ridiculous. He needs to get out the business then and do something else with his life.

I hear Kirk Cameron's casting for Fireproof 2: Judgment Day.

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I see nothing wrong with him standing up for something he believes in, even if it's something I don't agree with. If they knew this about him, but sprung on him, then I can't blame him for walking.

Sounds like the kiss is for shock value more than anything anyways :rolleyes:

Daytime Confidential:

Wishful Casting Y&R's Adam Newman: Brian Presley or Jon Prescott

Submitted by Jamey Giddens on May 21, 2009 - 7:56am

No need to let one actor's reported homophobia on the set of The Young and the Restless stop the show. Since TPTB are said to be planning to recast the role of Adam Newman after Chris Engen allegedly bolted rather than kiss Yani Gellman (Rafe), I figured I would attempt to help the busy execs out.

Reported homophobia???

Everyone is a soap analyst-soap activist these days...

Well said!

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Wouldn't it have just been easier for him to say to MAB and Co that "Im not comfortable playing the role like this, or it goes against my beliefs blah blah blah".

I mean wouldn't they be obligated to not push for him to do this, cause he could sue them. Its just seems strange, that this is something they would force him to do if he was against it...

IMO, if he did quit over it then its really unfortunate because unless your working for FOX News lol or the 700 Club, your gonna get vilified and screwed (look at that Ms. California...she has alienated so many people, no one but FOX News and the Organizations against gays will touch her.).

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Perez Hilton picked this up.

http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-21-soap-sta...use-of-gay-kiss

So disappointed in Engen's personal views, especially because he's such a brilliant actor. I am very curious to know what Braeden and Bergman think about all of this.

I'm more interested in how Braeden feels about Engen being unhappy with the writing for Adam even before this kiss. I think Adam was sacrificed for the big attempts at puffing up Victor which started last year after Sabrina died, and I wonder if Braeden would have rather had a strong, complex character as his son than the crazy wimp Adam has become.

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"Standing up for believing in"...bigotry? Yeah, George Wallace did that too.

It's the Roscoe Born/AMC situation times ten. In today's climate, entertainment industry and otherwise, it's a very foolish thing to do.

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