OT: I just posted in Spoiler thread this casting spoiler:

Devon is

gone.

Not necessarily.

From the way the article is worded, I assume he's on recurring status.

As for Mac, I'm not overly impressed. As others have said, she's dull and she looks too old. Just bring back Rachel Kimsey, people! (But write her more Mac-like.)

Edited April 7, 200916 yr by y&r_fan

Right now, she is a little on the dull side, but hopefully she will get better. I think they will make an attempt to not make her look too much older. I'll still give her a chance for now. Oh how I wish Ashley Bashioum was back in the role!

But Bashioum...something that was absolutely true in the beginning, and most of the time thereafter....seldom smiled. That totally worked for me, given her background.

Thus, I loved that Clementine Ford was not "perky, pretty Mac" (we had that)...but scowly-sulky Mac. It makes total sense that the horrors of Darfur would have affected her looks and her behavior.

I love that she's not classically "pretty". I think that will encourage the writers to go a little deeper.

I think Stacy Hadiuk's interest level will improve.

When it comes to dear sweet Clementine...she needs to grow out her hair. Then, she needs to clean up her skin, I'm talking Intense Pulsed Light treatments, they improve the clarity, tone and texture of the skin, nothing drastic, but they help a lot. After that, the makeup needs to be overhauled, looking like a hooker from the United Nations is NOT going to fly. Next, she needs to drop 10 pounds, she has a round face (so do I, so I know what I'm saying!) Finally, her undereye bags, the lighting people MUST light her from below, soft light is key, otherwise they might as well have hired Cybill for the part, they're looking to be about the same age!

You are totally the boss on these looks issues. The only thing I noticed were those bags under the eyes. They were shocking, given how young she is.

Mom Cybill also tends to have that round face.

It is totally fine with me if she is not classically pretty and looks "lived in". Billy Miller, too, is not classically handsome. I'll be delighted if the return of the prodigal/signature couple is cast with folks who can act...and who don't look so "soapy"

I adore Murphy and Katherine. I think they are my favorite soap couple, probably because they are the only happy one that I care about.

But Kay and Murph seemed to be sharing a room.

Are they -- gulp -- having SEX ?!?!?!?!

Eileen Davidson is HILARIOUS.

But Bashioum...something that was absolutely true in the beginning, and most of the time thereafter....seldom smiled. That totally worked for me, given her background.

Thus, I loved that Clementine Ford was not "perky, pretty Mac" (we had that)...but scowly-sulky Mac. It makes total sense that the horrors of Darfur would have affected her looks and her behavior.

I love that she's not classically "pretty". I think that will encourage the writers to go a little deeper.

No, I know Ashley never really smiled and I notice that Clementine (so far) is closer to how Ashley played the part than the other 2 recasts, but I just loved Ashley in the role.

You are totally the boss on these looks issues. The only thing I noticed were those bags under the eyes. They were shocking, given how young she is.

Mom Cybill also tends to have that round face.

It is totally fine with me if she is not classically pretty and looks "lived in". Billy Miller, too, is not classically handsome. I'll be delighted if the return of the prodigal/signature couple is cast with folks who can act...and who don't look so "soapy"

I am totally in favor of her not being classically 'pretty'...the same goes for Billy Miller, he is not what you'd call 'handsome'...they're both attractive and look 'lived in' but the difference between Miller and Ford is that Miller looks polished and Ford looks burnt out...when you start looking like Mackenzie Browning, Darfur prostitute and mission aid worker saving lives while slinging hash, you've got yourself a problem!

She needs a little tweaking, literally give me a weekend and she'd be fabulous.

You spend some time in Darfur!

But Kay and Murph seemed to be sharing a room.

Are they -- gulp -- having SEX ?!?!?!?!

I certainly hope so and lots of sex. LOL! When you reach that age, you should be having sex everyday. I don't know how the network is coping with it, but I'm loving it.

After just one show the new Mac is just awful.

some good scenes between billy and mac in tomorrow's US episode. Ford impressed me.

Stacey Haiduk is SO beautiful, and her identity is the only thing I am tuning in for at this point.

Amen! That women is fine as hell!

Much as I have loved Paul, why build up his clan? Let me go. This canvas MUST get leaner.

I agree they definitely need to trim the cast and if they aren't going to write for Paul and his family then they should just let them go also. I'd still like to see the meddling Mary Williams even if for a brief appearance.

Maybe their foreshadowing Billy getting shot like Jack by his wife, and not the return of the Williams clan.

Interesting! I haven't thought about that possibility either; Chloe is the desperate type and there was something in her expression today when she found out about Mac and Billy's past.

I'm agreeing with MarkH on Mac, who knows what she saw in Dufar and it could have aged her therefore the possible answer as to why Ford was cast since she does look a bit older. It's working for me.

Jill despising Katherne and cutting off their relationship...Hate it. Although the way it was written, it wasnt so bad bc Jess Walton really sold it to me. Still I hope this isnt permanent

The Billy/Mac stuff seems so forced. She shows up just as he gets married, just as its revealed they arent cousins and now so many people are trying to push them back together. Um, whatever. I hate that they are making Chloe to yet again be the big loser here.

Speaking of losers, what the hell was TASP doing at the wedding? Someone seriously needs to get a life

LOL...loved Nick ripping into Phyllis

Sharon, you are a hot mess. I really felt bad for Jack there. Ive finally started to like them, only as they are divorcing. Still its best they are apart. Hoping for her to reunite with Nick

Cheap, you actually liked Kay and Jill's "loving" relationship? I've seen a few comment on this, but never really explain why they enjoyed it. To me if always felt so forced and it limited Jess and Jeanne as actors. I'd love to hear your insight.

But Kay and Murph seemed to be sharing a room.

Are they -- gulp -- having SEX ?!?!?!?!

[Moila] If Kay had sex w/ Zapato I'd be like OMG! WTF? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Dogs are wrong! [/Moila]

I hate that they are making Chloe to yet again be the big loser here.

They're not.

Billy & Mackenzie do have a serious connection but she actually reaches out to Kevin.

[Moila] If Kay had sex w/ Zapato I'd be like OMG! WTF? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Dogs are wrong! [/Moila]

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