I think Phyllis is trying to be the direct opposite of Sharon, what does Sharon do when Nicktooless cheats??? She tosses him out on his butt and goes out and cheats in retribution, and then they sweep their affairs under the rug and have fantasy make up sex and wash, rinse and repeat. Phyllis is fighting for her marriage and family, something she has ALWAYS wanted, she talked about "family" when they got married, she does not want to fail and by giving up she would fail. I don't think she has turned and looked the other way, she has called Nickteooless on it, she knows he went to Sharon's room, but he was not gone for a half hour or an hour, more like 5 minutes, I am sure she found him coming back down the stairs ( does this ritzy hotel not have a damn elevator???) knowing where he was and with whom, and that he was not gone long enough to "do" anything. But I do think that Phyllis has reached the end of her rope with this whole obsession Nicktooless has with all things Sharon. And I think her penthouse is now available (Billy has moved out to deal with the Cane/Lily obsession with Delia) for a reason! I want Phyllis to pack up and move her and Summer "HOME" and let Nick deal on his own, I want to hear her tell him after he gets one of Sharon's frantic "I need you" phone calls "If you walk out that door to go see her, take care of her, be with her, your daughter and I will not be here when you come back" and JUST DO IT!!!

This is my problem right here with the Phick marriage. Phyllis is basing alot of her actions on Sharon's. It's like a competition. It's less about what the problem in the actual marriage itself is. She should look reasonably at why Sharon's an obstacle and who is contributing to that and take it from there. I think in that sense the story is realistically written because alot of women look at themselves and "the other woman" and blame both when they should also look at the man's issues and recognize how they contribute. When I watched the most recent episodes I see why the marriage is not going to work unless they boh get it together, the marriage for both is more about Sharon than it is for each other.

Let Nicktooless fight for Phyllis and their family, instead Phyllis being the one doing all of the work! I hope Nicktooless will finally realize that the love he has for Sharon is a love of the past for real!!! instead of just saying it he needs to own it. No love stays the same, it changes, it matures, it evolves.....and that is something the SHICK marriage never did....evolve.

I did not think Phick evolved either. In fact I think they started growing more apart since Phyllis's trial. I do believe he is torn between both women though but he is not going about the situation the right way of course

on another note, love seeing Sharon just be Sharon, all the sex with her BIL which I only hope keeps happening and I can not wait for Jack to find out and Noah and Nicktooless!!! I don't see her as having an "illness" I just see Sharon being Sharon!!! , sick of Cane and his attached at the hip hair model, sick of Jill thinking she only has one son!!! and I want a wrap up of this Katherine/Marge thing!! but I am loving Kevin's downward spiral (maybe him and Sharon can be roomies at the looney bin!!) and Greg will definately deserve an Emmy for this work, also I am on the fence about Adam, is he really going blind or is it all a ruse to get back at Victor and his family???, Michael and Lauren as a couple are nothing really but supporting, supporting characters, I wish they would move along the Nikki and Paul storyline!!! and as for the Winters....who cares!!!

I think mental illess or not the way Sharon's sex life shouldn't at this point be explained to any of those people. Regardless of what role they play in her life I remeber the episode where she sent Jack divorce papers. Point is the character of Phyllis is trying to compromise herself as a way to save her marriage I just hope the character will get tired of doing that and stand up to Nick as who she truly is

Phylis want a stable marriage but She must don't know about Nick cheating ways. Phylis must have thought that if he got with her golden coochie Nick won't have to cheat on her like he did Sharon. Nick taught her a lesson by going back to Sharon.

Edited March 11, 200916 yr by MoTheGreat

I think in that sense the story is realistically written because alot of women look at themselves and "the other woman" and blame both when they should also look at the man's issues and recognize how they contribute.

I have yet to see the majority of wives (especially on these message boards) looking at themselves. They tend to blame the other woman entirely, because to blame the man, would mean they would have to analyze what was lacking in the marriage, or the man, that caused him to cheat in the first place. It is easier to say all men only think with the head between their legs and pin all the blame on the woman who should have known that man was "taken" and respected the marriage.

I don't see how either Sharon or Phyllis can analyze their marriages and decide that Nick is a keeper. He can't keep it in his pants and his vows mean nothing. They might as well park him in the stable and take him out when required for sex or procreation since he is nothing more than a STUD.

I have yet to see the majority of wives (especially on these message boards) looking at themselves. They tend to blame the other woman entirely, because to blame the man, would mean they would have to analyze what was lacking in the marriage, or the man, that caused him to cheat in the first place. It is easier to say all men only think with the head between their legs and pin all the blame on the woman who should have known that man was "taken" and respected the marriage.

I see so many women willing to compromise who they are to keep the man from personal knowledge alone. It's that "maybe it's me" dysfunction. "Maybe I need to be more....or lesss...." I also think too that alotof women don't admit out loud that they have those insecurities about themselves.

I don't see how either Sharon or Phyllis can analyze their marriages and decide that Nick is a keeper. He can't keep it in his pants and his vows mean nothing. They might as well park him in the stable and take him out when required for sex or procreation since he is nothing more than a STUD.

Oh we definitly agree there, at this point he is no prize for either.

Edited March 11, 200916 yr by classicmoment

What you said. I swear, fan bases can rationalize anything. Who else would describe what Phyllis and Nick avoidance sex fests as a healthy sex life?! Phyllis doesn't want to talk about Nick's infidelity and interest in Sharon. Nick goes back and forth between both women and has constant sex with his wife and trying nail his ex-wife. So Phyllis and Nick have sex fests to avoid the mess that is their marriage. It is pure craziness. Jack has no reason to be jealous of that disgusting relationship.

How do you watch a soap opera and not rationalize? They're not documentaries. These are twisted, soapy stories that we can't get enough of. Naturally, not all of the stories but we each pick what we like. The triangle story is a little gross but to knock it because fans who enjoy it are rationalizing and thus able to enjoy it seems a little ridiculous. You're watching a soap opera.

Patty Weaver is criminally underrated.

Emily O'Brien's a keeper.

Jeanne Cooper & Jess Walton are magic.

Where the hell is Tracey Bregman?

Victor shutting the door in Heather's face?

...Hilarious.

Edited March 11, 200916 yr by DeeeDee

I watched Patty on DOOL years ago, Trish Clayton Banning, she was married to David Banning, Julie William's (Susan Seaforth Hayes - Y & R Joanna ) son and she was the mother of Scotty Banning, I think she a "multiple personality disorder??" cause I think she killed her step father!!! she is married to a former Y & R writer. She has been un-used for years! but there is a shortage of men in Genoa City!!!

Edited March 11, 200916 yr by marla0518

How do you watch a soap opera and not rationalize? They're not documentaries. These are twisted, soapy stories that we can't get enough of. Naturally, not all of the stories but we each pick what we like. The triangle story is a little gross but to knock it because fans who enjoy it are rationalizing and thus able to enjoy it seems a little ridiculous. You're watching a soap opera.

so true!!! who watches soap operas for rational thinking!!!! Katherine Chancellor and Jill Foster Abbott would have been committed decades ago in the real world!!!

I also do not watch soap operas for lessons in morality or parenting skills!!!

Edited March 11, 200916 yr by marla0518

I was really impressed by Emily O'Brien. She was fierce and not afraid to look ugly twisting her mouth all over the place and wearing little to no make-up. On the other hand, I don't want to start anything, but Tammin didn't even try and hide her accent in those scenes. Maybe it is hard to concentrate when someone is turning in a real performance in front of you. I vote Emily for the Daytime Joke awards formerly known as the Emmy's!!

Tyra is fool passing up detective hottie for Neil. The detective makes me drool. I would love to see him shirtless. Bet he is cut.

LOL Ann! And IA - I'd pick Det "Hottie" over Neil for sure.

I was really impressed by Emily O'Brien. She was fierce and not afraid to look ugly twisting her mouth all over the place and wearing little to no make-up. On the other hand, I don't want to start anything, but Tammin didn't even try and hide her accent in those scenes. Maybe it is hard to concentrate when someone is turning in a real performance in front of you. I vote Emily for the Daytime Joke awards formerly known as the Emmy's!!

Emily O'Brien/Jana =

I took such perverse pleasure in seeing and hearing Kevin beg to stay out the closet.

I agreed with every word Gina said. I wouldn't be surprised if that was foreshadowing. Somewhere down the line, Kevin will go psycho again.

I like psycho Kevin and actually prefer him a bit on the darker side as it gives Greg Rikaart something to work with other than the comedic and quirkiness he's been as of late. I agree though, EOB did great, not that I'm surprised; Sursok could learn a thing or two from her because EOB flat out did better the last two days than anything TS has done thus far.

Edited March 12, 200916 yr by Heyou

I take back EVERYTHING I ever said about Emily O'Brien when she got the Emmy nomination last year. EVERY WORD.

I was wrong. Dead wrong. I totally admit it. Today cemented it for me. Girl is GOOD.

I took such perverse pleasure in seeing and hearing Kevin beg to stay out the closet.

I agreed with every word Gina said. I wouldn't be surprised if that was foreshadowing. Somewhere down the line, Kevin will go psycho again.

Oh my goodness. I can't believe you'd write that! To watch him suffer like that...and to be reminded of how he suffered as a child...it was painful to watch such torture. To see him have to confront his damage so solidly again... Beautifully acted and painful to see.

I take back EVERYTHING I ever said about Emily O'Brien when she got the Emmy nomination last year. EVERY WORD.

I was wrong. Dead wrong. I totally admit it. Today cemented it for me. Girl is GOOD.

Jana had a headache the other day. I wondered if, just maybe, that 1% of residual tumor might start to act up? But your point is taken...she is very good. Especially when you consider she is able to do it WHILE putting on that accent.

Oh my goodness. I can't believe you'd write that! To watch him suffer like that...and to be reminded of how he suffered as a child...it was painful to watch such torture. To see him have to confront his damage so solidly again... Beautifully acted and painful to see.

I want the current incarnation of Kevin to suffer. I miss Kevin with an edge(Not necessarily the STD carrying version). I've never preferred cutesy Kevin with lovely accented Jana. I'd like to see more of a struggle in Kevin learning how to grow as a man while never forgetting the destructiveness of his past.