Paul Raven

I would love to know what the actors really think of today's Y&R. Of course, they are professional and talk things up but those who remember the old days must shake their heads when they get a script. Remember when Sally Sussman/Kay Alden returned and a few castmembers subtly dissed the previous writer, hoping things might turn around with someone from the Bell days at the helm. That was not to be, but it was telling in it's own way.

Good point. I read something along the lines if, say, a director or actor wanted to move a just cushion on a sofa it had to be done by the appropriate person. There's a lot of of BTS scenes stuff we are not privy to, that may explain some of the things we see onscreen that don't always make sense.

Night by Night rundown -timeslot winners in bold Monday ABC Barbara Walters #9 Academy Awards #5 CBS Basketball #16 Post Game #33 Cagney & Lacey #62 NBC Alf #17 Movie Stone Fox @8.30 #31 You Again @10.30 #60 Tuesday ABC Who's The Boss #8 Growing Pains #6 Moonlighting #3 Max Headroom #26 CBS Walter Cronkite #68 Movie A Special Friendship # 41 NBC Matlock # 12 Gimme A Break #42 Easy Street #49 Hill St Blues #47 Wednesday ABC Perfect Strangers #28 Head of The Class #24 Dynasty #28 Mariah #55 CBS Roxie #65 Take Five # 64 Magnum # 31 Houston Knights # 38 NBC Highway To Heaven # 17 Night Court #33 Tortellis #51 Bronx Zoo #50 Thursday ABC Our world #70 Jack & Mike #69 20/20 #43 CBS Wizard # 67 Simon & Simon # Knots Landing #23 NBC Cosby #1 Family Ties #2 Cheers #4 Nothing in Common # 14 LA Law # 19 Friday ABC Charmings # 53 Webster # 40 Movie Destination America # 66 CBS Nothing Is Easy #58 Popcorn Kid # 57 Dallas # 15 Falcon Crest # 27 NBC Roomies # 43 Amazing Stories #43 Miami Vice # 33 Stingray # 39 Saturday ABC Starman # 58 O'Hara # 48 Spenser For Hire # 30 CBS Outlaws # 53 Movie Winter of Our Discontent # 61 NBC Facts of Life #33 227 #22 Golden Girls #10 Amen #21 NBC News Special #55 Sunday ABC Disney The Parent Trap # 52 Movie Daddy # 24 CBS 60 Minutes # 11 Murder She Wrote #7 Movie Still Crazy Like A Fox #12 NBC Our House #62 Rags To Riches #46 Movie Trading Places # 19

Thanks @jcar03 Apart from the stories themselves that Top 10 is problematic for me. It's great to have long running charcters but should they be dominating the top spots after decades. Where are the new characters who are not burdened with years of story behind them. There needs to be a better mix of old and new. Watching the traumas of Sharon, Victor's schemes etc for the 100th time is not good soap. They had a chance with Billy Flynn to bring in a new character but instead lumbered him with Cane. Reed, Faith, Fen should be leading stories by now and a few vets shown the door or backburnered.

So many interesting perspectives, and as stated, made out of genuine interest and goodwill for the show. I was surprised/disappointed that more location stuff around the studio hasn't been utilized. I would have thought it was easy/cost effective to do. The opening weeks saw characters outside and that has just stopped unfortunately. There was Facebook post of the Martin/Smitty clan walking together down the 'street' at the studio and I thought that would turn up, but no. And the set issue is a problem, along with the set dressing in some instances. Joey's casino set just needs to be properly furnished ,for example, to be immediately improved. And please have Shanice and Ashley discussing the patients-they only need a scene lead in where they do a patient review eg Rm 312 Mr Stanley needs to up his medication to 40 grams of whatever, Mrs Singh in 319 has had to have the surgery rescheduled blah, blah. stuff that sounds professional. Then launch into the Ted/Grayson discussion.

Thanks @DRW50 Love these things you unearth. The living room set looked to be the Stephen's house from Bewitched. Bob/Carol/Ted/Alice aired on ABC Wed @8 and ended up placing 79th out of 80 shows for the season, so a total bomb. The competition was Sonny & Cher on CBS #7 and Adam 12 on NBC #39. It was the 2nd lowest rated show for the week when it debuted. That was Wk 3 .The first 2 weeks of the season ABC played the final episodes of the low rated Summer sitcom Love Thy Neighbour so the show was already at a disadvantage After 7 episodes it was dropped Nov7for a rerun of the TV movie Brians Song which had scored huge ratings in 1971. The following week Dr Dolittle aired. Then Dick Clark's Rock n Roll Years took over for 5 weeks. That didnt do much better finishing 76th for it's run. Then it was movies and specials until the next series The Cowboys too over. That improved things finishing 57th. Some critic's comments Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice (ABC, Wednesday, 8 -8:30 p.m.) "It takes more than a title to make a hit. . . If anything, the opener was disagreeable rather than humorous." Percy Shain, Boston Globe. "The premiere ... tried awfully hard to be slick and sophisticated, but it came out looking strained and silly." Anthony LaCamera, Boston Herald American. "How d'ya make it as sinful and sizzling as possible, but turn it around to be as Donna Reedish as possible by the end of the 22 minutes of running time... , After all the buildup, we find the plot not much more advanced than an Ozzie and Harriet ..." Rex Polier, Philadelphia Bulletin. .. could be amusing & titillating & honest & contemporary if its principles are as astutely chosen as its principals." Harry Harris, Philadelphia Inquirer. "Despite some very labored material, we happened to like ABC's Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice mainly because we like the four leads in it. They play well together and hold every promise that this series, with a title steal from the film, could come up with some good episodes in weeks to come." Kay Gardella, New York Daily News. "Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice moves into screen range ... in a swift, occasionally bright, conventionally unconventional sex fable." Morton Moss, Los Angeles Herald- Examiner. "It showed promise." Frank Judge, Detroit News. "Voluptuous Anne Archer . . . and lean, handsome Robert Urich as Carol and Bob tower over Anita Gillette and David Spielberg as Ted and Alice... . One thing that should be explained about the relationship of Bob and Carol with Ted and Alice: What do they see in each other?" Cecil Smith, Los Angeles Times. "Based on the premiere, Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice will need help from Fred & Susie & Stan & Grace & Ed & Jenny & the U.S. Marine Band & the Kilgore College majorettes & Trigger & Lassie & all the males in the city of Hollywood & all the females in the city of Oakland & most of all, prayer." Norman Mark, Chicago Daily News. "Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice have had their horns removed and endowed with a Hugh Heffner mentality - lots of talk about sex and no action... . Welcome to a half hour of sniggers, dedicated to the proposition that any topic can be debated into boredom, even sex." Richard Shull, Indianapolis News. "It is a shame that Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice doesn't have a stronger format or premise because the four young actors who play the title roles are quite likeable." Bob Brock, Dallas Times -Herald

You would be saddened to see how far Y&R has fallen. BTG , while far from perfect, is head and shoulders above Y&R .With the state of Y&R at the moment BTG doesn't need to be associated. However it is the better rated and more well known show, so from that aspect a crossover could get some viewers sampling.

From what I can gather there were two iterations of Scarlett Hill-the first being an anthology with stories running for 5 or so episodes. On April 22 1963 a new format debuted with Kate Russell running a rooming house with stories centered around that setting. Some extra cast info Mr. Sydney Quill ??????? Alan Pearce Wanda Quill June Sampson Danny Coleman Gillie Fenwick Les Bruce Gray Mike Bailey John Vernon Sophie Spice Judith Coates John Spice Alan King Connie Anna Reiser Hamilton Fields ???? Local political leader

Sun May 12 1991 7-8pm ABC Disney #70 6.9/16 CBS 60 Minutes #19 13.4/31 NBC Black Jack Savage #80 4.8/11 FOX True Colors #83 4.3/10 Parker Lewis #83 4.8/11 8-9pm ABC Funniest Home Videos #23 12.9/25 Funniest People #13 13.7/25 CBS Murder She Wrote #21 13.2/25 (12.8/25 1st half hour ,13.7/25 2nd half hour) NBC Expose #82 4.5/9 Real w Jane Pauley #74 5.7/11 FOX In Living Color #52 9.6/19 Get A Life #68 7.2/13 9-11 pm ABC An Inconvenient woman Pt 1#35 11.7/21 CBS Mrs Lambert Remembers Love #51 9.9/17 NBC In The Line of Duty #8 14.7/26 FOX Married W Children #45 10.9/19 Top of the Heap #63 8.1/14 Sunday Comics #75 5.4/10 MSW was just pipped by ABC but the demos for Videos/People would have been way younger.

Is Eric the oldest actor to have worked on Y&R? I think Jeanne Cooper was 84 when she died.

It was just mentioned again in the GL thread that Birgitta Tolksdorf was offered a role on Y&R when LOL was cancelled but she declined. I've always wondered what that role might have been? Possibly Judy Wilson? Or Julia Newnan? I'm leaning toward Judy.

Those AI videos... as soon as the characters change expression they look nothing like the actors.

Adding my thanks @Franko You are providing alot of detail that the summaries at the time ignore, particularly those subplots for the secondary charcters. When Wes Kenney arrived there was a major housecleaning.

It would have been good if both Rick Lohman and Megan Bagot returned to the roles. Search had so many new characters that some familiar faces would be appreciated. They could use some flashbacks if former actors returned. Lohman was doing guest spots at that point so might have been amenable to a return to SFT. Second thoughts I think it was Steven Burleigh that played Gary at the time Laine was on the show. He didn't seem to be as popular as Rick in the role. That's when Gary was dropped. But he might have been acceptable if Gary returned. Megan Bagot seemed to vanish. Maybe she was doing theater. Might have returned. Would Rebecca Hollen make a good Laine?

After over 3 years something new for Moment of Truth! IN DECEMBER 1964 a new television soap opera called "Moment of Truth" made its debut with á big splash. The NBC television network in the United States proclaimed a firm 26 -week purchase of the Canadian made series, and almost immediately announced the program was sold right out to network affiliate stations. The sale was hailed as a quarter -million dollar Christmas gift to Canadian talent. It was applauded by Canadian commercial producers and advertisers as the icebreaker for future Canadian independent production efforts. An agency TV buyer was quoted as saying, "The day has arrived when our obligation to sponsor Canadian content programming can be considered positively rather than negatively." That was the story up till Christmas 1964. Then on December 28 the CBC network started airing Moment half -an -hour daily five days a week. Before long the daytime serial was doing well as a network spot carrier. In fact there was only one thing wrong with Moment's success story - Robert Lawrence Productions (Canada) Limited, the show's Toronto -based producer, apparently wasn't making a dime on it. And to be more exact about it, John Ross, RLP president, claimed all indications pointed to a highly measurable loss. Why? With all those sales shouldn't Moment have been strutting like a fat -cat? It seems not. And one of the reasons for the grotesque situation wasn't complicated at all - it's just that the CBC wasn't paying for the show. The Corporation apparently intends to, starting April 1, and will pay up in terms Ross calls satisfactory and generous. But Ross says, "Even if the CBC had bought it from the beginning, we couldn't produce it for that." Evidently the only hope for a reasonable profit on Moment lies in renewal of the existing 26 -week NBC contract and an extended CBC run. The amortization of pilot costs and heavy initial production expenses takes that long, in Ross' view. FOCUS ON PROBLEMS One of the vital jobs Moment of Truth has done is to focus a glaring light on problems facing independent television producers in Canada. RLP'S "success" has dragged the question of any independent's ability to go it alone on major TV productions and make money, out of the area of speculation. It has plunked the issue on firm ground, for once. Ross says an independent can't make it independently, period. He considers subsidization "absolutely essential". (If the CBC buys a show at a price higher than potential commercial revenues, that's a form of subsidization. The Corporation regularly aids Canadian talent by producing shows at costs of $50,000 an hour and up, selling them to commercial sponsors at a fraction of true cost.) It was back in May 1964 that RLP "put it on the line, crossed its fingers" and gambled $30,000 to produce a pilot for Moment. After selling the show to NBC Ross noted, "It's amusing in a way, because the odds are so greatly stacked against you." Before long RLP moved toward what it felt to be the next logical step for a Canadian -made, Canadian talent show - airing on the CBC. As it happened, the only way RLP could get the program on the national network was "under an arrangement whereby we participated in the network's portion of ad revenue," says Ross. (He believes the Corporation takes half the network spot dollars. Local stations get the other half.) RLP's sales representative, All -Canada Radio & Television Ltd., pressed the CBC to buy the program. But it was no dice. Ross feels authority in the Corporation was spread too thin (before the CBC's recent executive realignment), so no one was in position to make a decision. "They all liked Moment of Truth," he says. But they figured I suppose that with the total number of dollars they had to spend, they didn't want to spend it on daytime television." RLP contended daytime shouldn't be discounted. "The CBC's final comment when I was there (at a meeting in Ottawa) was 'We have no money'. I didn't believe them at the time, but now they've made it public I guess it must be true," Ross adds. RLP's target in the CBC talks was hung on a figure of approximately $7500 for each episode of Moment. (Ross believed $7500 was about the lowest figure the CBC could spend producing a half hour of its own.) Scaled down to allow for Moment being daytime TV, and not high -Canadian -culture ("I've never said our show was like the Second Coming, or fabulous or wonderful," Ross insists), $7500 became a take-off point in RLP's thinking.' Ross felt, and still believes that the CBC shouldn't be called on to back every program idea dreamed up by independent producers - "The program has to be something more than self-indulgence." COMMERCIAL WITH A BIG C "I'm in the commercial business with a big C", he says. "Everything has to be considered ing the ground of quality -level suitable for national broadcast, he explains. "You can apply this test to Moment of Truth because it's stood the test of a foreign sale," he continues. "And you should be able to ask the CBC to support you if the program has stood the test elsewhere." He thinks RLP took on its fair share of risk by getting the program produced, sold and on the air, making it possible for RLP to turn to the CBC with a proved -out product. "At no time did we ask the Corporation to gamble with us. At no time did the taxpayer have to gamble. "The CBC could at least have indicated interest in supporting us," he states. (The Corporation has pledged support, from April 1 as noted above.) But what happened to the prediction that the Canadian obligation to sponsor Canadian content programming could now be considered positively? RLP's lengthy struggle for support of its Canadian talent opus leaves John Ross in some doubt. In fact he admits expressing his misgivings to a US producer who wondered if there was any future for an independent producer wanting to develop something up here. What have they done for you on this show, except criticize?" is the way the American put it. AGONY OF UNCERTAINTY Asked if his negotiations with the CBC have been satisfactory Ross replies, "Of course not," although the dickering seems to have led at last to an acceptable financial arrangement. Ross believes if others are to escape RLP's agony of uncertainty, "the first thing the CBC has to clarify, not only for Robert Lawrence Productions but for everybody, is its attitude, They've got to define it." The question in Ross' mind is, "Do they want independent Canadian production or not?" As an afterthought he adds, "The NBC, CBS and ABC networks have made a great success of their businesses by producing as little as possible themselves." Stuart MacKay, principal figure in All -Canada's negotiations on behalf of RLP, says, "We've been trying to see it half -way," and get the CBC to do the same. "In the beginning they told us - 'Look here, we don't have any money. Are you prepared to gamble with the Corporation?" MacKay concludes, "That's not a solid base for a production house."

That was 'Fantasies' That movie's awful. It would be interesting to see the ratings on it--if that was an experiment, then I assume it failed, because I can't recall any other movies tie ins being made. Ben appeared in a few episodes prior to The Cradle Will Fall airing to cross promote. The problem was trying to shoehorn the GL characters into the plot of a successful novel. Had they used a script tailored to include GL characters or adapted a book that leant itself better to incorporating the soap characters things might have been different. However The Cradle Will fall was a ratings success airing in the final week of May sweeps and finishing at #15 for the week with a 15.5/25 rating considering it was up against a repeat of The Enforcer which ranked #8 17.6/29 and Three's Company #10 17.3/28.

Thank you. Martin was only in 4 times, the lowest for any contract player. I wonder if Brandon had some other project going or they just didn't have much for the character to do this month. I like Mona but one appearance kinda makes you wonder the point of the character. She's supposed to be Nicole's assistant but we never see her in that capacity.

Looking back on the Dallas premiere Sun April 2 1978 It replaced The Carol Burnett Show Sun @10. CBS 60 Minutes @7 Rhoda @8 On Our Own @8.30 All in the Family @9 Alice @9.30 Dallas @10 ABC Young Pioneers 2hr Debut @7 Movie High Plains Drifter @9 (Clint Eastwood) NBC Disney Barefoot Executive @ 7 Project UFO @8 Movie Love's Dark Ride @9 (Cliff Potts, Carrie Snodgrass) Dallas S1 E1 Diggers Daughter ranked 18th of 65 shows with a 21.5/37 . That was the best rated new CBS series debuting at that time beating Incredible Hulk, Sam, Husbands, Wives and Lovers. Tina Louise was there in the first couple of episodes and had they decided to keep Julie in the mix might have finally shed the Ginger from Gilligan's Island tag, becoming one of the stars of Dallas when it became a smash hit. Although knowing Tina she might have refused to be a part of any reunions claiming the show had been pitched to her as 'Julie in Dallas' with her as the lead!

But who was he and why would she want to kill him? Sigh...

Maybe that's why the place is always empty. Does Sharon still have her business? Was it Cassidy One or something? What was the point of it? Sorry, not here for Nick the addict. I'm sure there will be DRAMA but what actual fall out will there be? Nick will just add ex addict to his resume. A lot of stuff just seems to exist to fill up airtime and keep vets onscreen.

Welcome @Allan00 It would be better for you to post in the Search for Tomorrow thread rather than a separate thread.

According to a Facebook post the Las Vegas stock shot they're using is out of date as one of the casinos shown no longer exists. Sums up the current Y&R approach to everything-half hearted and cheap AF.

ATWT-there was some sort of friction b/w Don Hastings and Veleka Grey who was brought on to play his new love interest Lyla Montgomery. Veleka was replaced a few months into the role.

On SFT Maree Cheatham had some issues with Phillip Brown who was playing her younger love interest Steve Kendall.

And one more thing. Mariah and the mystery man that she may or may not have killed. Has that been explained or just swept under the rug? It looks like Mariah will be offscreen again why she has treatment out of town. She and her mom can now swap stories of their mental breakdowns. Has that hereditary aspect been acknowledged or addressed? Same with Nick-he can chat to his mom and former stepdad about their common addiction issues.