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Why they needed a wedding planner is beyond me...just to clear the furniture and brings in tons of flowers? Phyllis continually barging in because she lives upstairs, but we didn't see one other resident or guest popping in for a look see. I enjoyed it, but as pointed out it had zero relevance to anything going on in GC at the moment apart from Daniel/Tessa. Now we return to LA Noir and the AI threat.

I guess after Holly being a major player throughout the 70's, Marland felt that there weren't many options that appealed to him. He had stories and characters he wanted to explore and with MG's contract up it was a chance to make space for newbies. Over his tenure Marland dropped, through choice or circumstance ,Holly, Rita, Lucille, Ben, Elizabeth, Diane, Ann and other characters like Peter, Mark, Steve ,Barbara.

Robert Urich Bob & Carol...72 ABC SWAT 75/76 ABC Soap S1 77 ABC Tabitha 78 ABC Vegas 78- 81 ABC Galvilan 83 NBC Spencer for Hire 85-88 ABC American Dreamer NBC 90-91 Crossroads ABC 92-93 It Had to be You CBS 93 Lazarus Man TNT 96 Love Boat Next Wave 98-99 Emeril 2001 Would Urich hold the record for most primetime shows?

Ed was all about Holly and Rita in 1980. Then they both left and Ed pivoted towards Vanessa in 81. They split Jan 82 just in time for Maureen's arrival. Vanessa hooked up with Mar Evans in early 82.

On the subject of Bonanza, Lorne Greene's failed to land a hit series after 14 years on the show. Immediately following Bonanza's cancellation he starred in the short lived detective series Griff. Then Battlestar Galactica -78/79 Galactica 80 and Code Red 81/82.

@DRW50 Thanks for the clip. So much goes on BTS that we are not privily to. It would be interesting to hear from other sources about the situation. You would think before committing to a NY shoot they would have had a better handle on things. After a successful run following Dallas, CBS moved it to Wed @ 9 opposite Fall Guy and Facts of Life and it died and was off the air in weeks. It returned later to replace Knots Landing and did better, but I guess the whole situation had soured them on the show.

After The Waltons Ralph Waite did "The Mississippi" which did well as tryout show following Dallas but then got dumped Tues @8 where it limped along for a season. Were Waite and Learned both promised a show as inducement to stay with The Waltons?

Martin the congressman who is never at his office and throws a mention of the 'Education Bill' to his dad as evidence of his hard work while at the CC after a gym workout. If I were him I would be worried about re-election. The 2 nurses who chat and socialize all day. Vanessa the real estate mogul who never works but has time to socialize and scheme with a mobster. Nicole who never sees patients Eva who's doing a tremendous job at an office we never see Etc, etc They should have planned the structure better and have several characters working together be it the real estate office, Martin's office etc and planned sets for that.

Both Jessie 1984 and Peaceable Kingdom 1989 were big flops. However she did OK in TV movies and mini series. Tony Randall Hit series with The Odd Couple 70-75 Then Tony Randall Show ran for two seasons , 76-77,one on ABC and one on CBS. Love Sidney was next with a 2 season run on NBC 81-83

Eileen and Rod are fine but Maureen and Jaime Lyn??

They should have just called it 'Girl with a Gun'

I guess one factor in play is that the lead casts for those shows were already in their 40's or older when the shows debuted. But yes, the younger cast Charlene Tilton, William Moses, Jamie Rose, Kathleen Beller etc didn't land any other significant gigs. Lorenzo Lamas had a successful syndicated series with Renegade-5 seasons.

Buddy Ebsen had a pretty good track record Davy Crockett on Disney which was a big hit. Then a one season NBC series Northwest Passage 58/59 Beverly Hillbillies 62-71 Barnaby Jones 73-80 Then finally a regular role in the 3rd season of Matt Houston.

Daryl Wells Dorothy Lyman Matthew Cowles Larry Gates Daryl Wells Dorothy Lyman Tom Ligon Susan Sarandon Anna Minot Erin O'Connor Elizabeth Lawrence

LOVING Patrick Donovan Noah Keen 1983 George L. Smith 1984-85 Ed Bryce 1991-93 Ed Bryce was playing Patrick in 1990.

Redd Foxx also had a short lived variety show on ABC following his departure from Sanford & Son. ABC spent big $$$ to grab him, more as away of destroying NBCs Friday night line up than a desire to have Redd on the schedule. It worked and NBC Friday was hobbled. Kate Jackson The Rookies 4 seasons led to Charlie's Angels in which she appeared on 3 of the 5 seasons. Then 4 seasons of Scarecrow and Mrs King. Only one flop the sitcom Baby Boom. I wonder if Charlies angels would have gone longer if the original 3 Angels had stayed the course?

This chat has inspired me to start a primetime thread on TV stars hits and misses.

After MTMS ended, Mary unwisely went with a variety show 'Mary' that lasted half a season. CBS gave it the plum Sun @8 slot and it tanked immediately. Maybe if had aired Sun @10 it might have had a chance to build. Anyway it was revamped into a sitcom/variety hybrid 'Mary Tyler Moore Hour' and returned later in the season to bad reviews and ratings. So a few years later she tried another sitcom 'Mary' which failed. They put her in a magazine workplace setting but it paled in comparison to the original MTM. Finally there was Annie McGuire where she was a wife and mother, newly married and dealing with a blended family. Paired with another Dick Van Dyke revival in a deadly timeslot it was quickly yanked and that was it for MTM. James Garner Following the hit Maverick 1957-60,he branched into movies before returning to television with the quirky 'Nicols' on NBC that lasted a season-1971/72 But then it was back to a hit series with Rockford Files 1974-80 A Maverick revival "Bret Maverick' was next 1981/82 and despite passable ratings it was cancelled after one season. He tried a sitcom 'Man of the People' 1991 but it flopped up against Murder She Wrote. Next up was shortlived animated series on NBC 'God, the Devil and Bob' 2000 4 episodes and the Supreme Court drama First Monday on CBS 2002 13 episodes.

Can anyone recall why Bill and not Mickey was Don's best man? I thought Mickey was closer to Don than Bill?

Who are some primetime stars from successful series that couldn't follow through with their subsequent efforts? Who managed several hits over the years? Who kept plugging away and managed mini comebacks along the way? Let's examine the trajectory of some of TV's most well known stars. James Arness. After a 20 year run on Gunsmoke, he came back a few seasons later with How the West was Won. It was a sort of mini series and did well. But in 1981 he was lured back to NBC for McClain's Law and it bombed against Dallas before being shuffled around to no ratings improvement. That was it for Jim. Angie Dickinson Policewoman was a 4 season hit but her alone series follow up Cassie& Co was a dud. Who can you add to the list?

I guess Robert Urich must have had good TV Q scores BITD. Viewers liked him but not necessarily the shows he was in.

Josh seems to be doubling down on Phyllis' worst traits. She had already made a fool of herself with her childish taunts at the engagement party . Having her grandstand at the wedding was totally not needed. Why Cane would want anything to do with her beggars belief. It just makes him look more idiotic. Unless they're planning Who killed Phyllis they need to back down on the crazy. No secret that I'm not a fan of Ms Stafford's 'acting' choices but she deliberately goes broad in just about every scene. But she's got her fans who adore her...

Nicole's house needs some color and texture, and a bigger sofa. Everything is too neutral.

Victoria Wyndham claims to have written story at AW but was never credited or elaborated exactly what she was responsible for.

He had a very short lived CBS series Hagen in 1980.