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Trouble with Kobe's revamp was that the characters mostly were dropped/left within a few years so there was no solid foundation.All the families were fragmented with more members off-screen than off in some cases. Succeeding teams made it worse by making more changes. They should have re-established the Bauer's with Hope returning and maybe Mike turning up with a new wife and step children. Then decide which other families should be prominent- Lewis, Marler, Shane, Reardon, Spaulding and structure the show to suit that vision.

Thanks @NothinButAttitude Judith was not happy about being filmed with her hair in those jumbo curlers.

This whole Matt story existed without the police being involved.Why? Victor doesn't need them. He has his crack(ed) security team ready for action. Really,the Newman's need a dedicated hotline to the GCPD considering the number of psychos they get involved with. Josh will surely continue on this path with Mari Jo, Shawn, Veronica, and that dude who stashed Victoria in the tree house waiting in the wings...

Its the nature of soaps to have comings and goings. BTG kept it's original cast intact for the 'season' but inevitably there will be movement. Also budget wise they need to keep a lid on things. Doug was killed off, Isaiah arrived. Kial appeared, Derek was demoted.

I guess Our House was NBC's determined attempt to provide some competition to 60 Minutes which was untouchable in that 7pm timeslot. I think they wanted to provide an alternative that would capture the demos that 60 Minutes didn't reach eg kids 2-11. young women etc. I would imagine it was quite successful in that regard. The list of shows that the opposition tried Sunday @7 through the 80's was a long one Those Amazing Animals Code Red Father Murphy Believe It or Not Voyagers First Camera Silver Spoons Punky Brewster Disney Incredible Sunday Life Goes On Programming for that slot was restricted by regulations-either Current Affairs, which 60 Minutes had a hold on or children centered-hence the opposition shows.

@soapfan770 Our House's numbers were boosted by it's premiere following The Cosby Show. It ranked #2 for the week 28.7/45 following Cosby #1. That was Thursday of course and NBC placed it there to get as much sampling as possible before it went up against 60 Minutes. The second episode aired Sunday and ranked #19 14.6/26. 60 Minutes was #8. So Our House earned that #14 place on the strength of those early ratings that boosted the average. In the first official week of the season OH was #41.

Interesting discussion and viewpoints @Vee and @GLATWT88 One problem I think is that Smitty/Martin and Jacob/Naomi were established married couples at the debut. Now we all know that too many married couples is problematic and limiting in story. We want to see couples fighting to get together and facing obstacles along the way. If Jacob/Naomi were living together straight away you could deal with commitment issues and an intrusion from a 3rd party would be more viable. Same with Smitty/Martin. They've been straitjacketed to some extent by being married, noble and the parents of teens. Had they been a newish couple there would be way more story material. But I think this was a choice to make them more palatable to certain sectors of the audience. The Ashley/Derek/Andre triangle was DOA. I was never sure whether we were supposed to be Team Ashley and hope she found true love with Andre or realized that Derek was her perfect man. The motivations and characterization never worked. As for Dani/Bill they need to keep them apart with incidents every so often that bring them closer but never re-uniting. I've seen posters saying they should be back together this year. And then what? Kial needs to be appearing way more often. Maybe that is in the works in the next few weeks. Agree with Izaiah and Eva. The potential is there. We need to see Izaiah at work and with his family to get to know him better instead of just meet ups with Eva. Chelsea/Madison has been poorly paced. We should have seen way more of the throuple story. It was merely hinted at. There was potential to do something interesting and it wasn't exploited. Instead we went to psycho kidnapper and insta romance.

Well we've seen many actors whose offscreen persona is vastly different from onscreen performances. Somewhere along the line that interpretation of the Tomas has been accepted by TPTB. Maybe on paper he's supposed to be a stoic, calm character but to play it with so little emotion is not the way to go IMO.

Yea Jack Lord is going to Brooklyn...why not Jack Klugman? How about Albert Stratton-he played Erica's long lost father so why not Rachel's? Or David Gale ex Rusty SFT?

I think it was the remodel that actually changed the entire set. It is now much smaller-the foyer and overall dimensions. Wasn't it Anjelica McDaniel- then head of CBS daytime that got word of the set redo and negative response and ordered it be changed back?

Marland wrote Holly out. How does that signal an intention for Ed and Holly to be together?

Thanks @janea4old OMG !! a location shoot- so it can be done!

Thanks @YRfan23 No Mariah in December - 27 appearances for the year. Don't know why they even bothered with that 'storyline'. Wow - Eileen was only on 8 times for the year. Faith and Connor 4/5, Victoria's kids on once for the whole year-ridiculous. At least they are fairing better than Christian...

I wonder why only two cast members got updated photos in the credits? Seems kinda random. I wish Colby M got a new shot. I disliked hers the most.

So today we had Sienna kidnapped by Mitch and kept in a motel room. Meanwhile Mariah was ruminating in a motel room. They were the same set redressed. And it's the same set that has been used numerous times in the past few years. A new low for Y&R budget mode.

Noticed that Kat was dressed more adult for these scenes. Had she arrived in one of her usual micro miniskirt/cutesy hat and purse outfits it would have been hard to take her seriously.

Yes, that classic Y&R style that verged on camp but had an emotional core that kept you hooked... I always equate it to the Ross Hunter/Douglas Sirk movies of the 50's.

Isn't that a common story with many actors/ singers? - the very thing you wished for becomes a burden. Tony probably hoped that his success with Luke would translate into other roles that were varied, more prestigious etc and when that didn't happen there was a certain resentment. Then not to have the Bill character be well received also meant that if he wanted that kind of income and what it brought him, he would have to go back to playing Luke.

I would hope that MVJ had several years worth of story in the planning stages. Obviously some things would be changed along the way once they see onscreen what is developing. Have to agree-those switched at birth/paternity stories have been done to death. It would be nice if they could develop stories/characters w/o going for those sort of plot twists.

I asked Chat GPT to come up with an alternate Fall 1981 schedule for NBC based on the shows they had but possibly some in different timeslots. On Saturday night it scheduled Here's Boomer, a kiddie show about a dog's adventures Saturday @10pm! Still a ways to go...

Brighter Day ??? Amy Fields 1962 possibly played Angie Moore?

Whose house is that ?Bill/Hayley? Whatever, the interiors don't match the grandeur of the exterior.

ONE LIFE TO LIVE extra dates and info and context. Peter Manning Nick Wyman 1993 May 24 1994- 95 Did he appear in 93? Hallie Mitchell Oni- Faida Lampley 1994 Todd's lawyer Father ___ Costello Wolek's priest summoned by Vince to persuade Jenny to keep her vow to become a nun. ????? 10/1975 Franklin Carter Victor's attorney that works in San Francisco knew of Victor's search for his son. ????? 9/1975 Senator Chalmers ??? guest at Victoria/Dorian party Jan 76 Nurse Robin Crossley secretary to Dr. Will Vernon Will's assistant who Naomi accused of being involved with. She quit in the face of Naomi's neurotic accusations Linda Watkins 1976-78 Herman Cantrell Paul Kendall's rival associate of Bonnie Harmer Edmond Genest May-June1978 Irene Manning Lord Clayton Mary McKeown June-July 1978; 1987 Ed Dunstel John Furey Governer's aide July 15 1994 Charley Drew ??? LA reporter who questioned Viki at press conference re Kevins kidnapping Nov 76 Dr. Gail Margaret? Dexter liked Larry Wolek dated Larry when he was on the outs with Karen Christopher Callen Feb 1977 Marco Dane Gerald Anthony March 1977-86; 13 week return May - August1989 90? Lola Daniels ???? 3/1978 attorney dating Tony Lord, which made Sam jealous

Happy New Year to Slick and all those who contribute to this thread!

Daphnee is great. Hopefully Shanice/Ted might salvage his character. ATM I'm not much invested in Ted.