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Despite the initial torridness of Roger/Mindy (affair with business rival's daughter), I believe Roger did love Mindy but they wouldn't have worked as a long-term couple because the specter of Roger's feelings for Holly would be lingering in the background. If you saw the Locher Room MZ tribute episode, Kimberley Simms credited the Roger/Mindy storyline for her growing as an actress and Mindy growing as a character, plus she mentioned that the Roger/Mindy storyline allowed the audience to see MZ as a romantic leading man and not just a villain.

Felicia was brought on when Kristen was on the way out. For whatever reason, Bill Bell didn't explore the Forrester daughters' relationship. I could totally see a Kristen/Clarke/Felicia triangle happen. I remember there was some flirtation between Felicia and Clarke but it went nowhere.

Guiding Light 1991 Alexandra exposes Roger at the country club. The culmination of the Robert Calhoun era and a master class in acting by Beverlee McKinsey. Bill Bell's last hurrah before he passed the reigns to Bradley.

Dina first run ended in 1986. I think she just left Genoa City. I can't recall off hand if there was a proper exit story.

I believe Pamela Long was last credited December 1990. Nancy Curlee took over January 1991.

Y&R Dina Abbott Mergeron abandoned her family, lived a jet-set life, remarried a wealthy man, became widowed, inherited late husband's business that rivaled her ex-husband's business. Dina's introduction at the Abbott house where's she's dressed in a black suit with matching hat and veil was similar to Alexis's introduction at the courthouse where she's dressed in a black and white suit with matching hat and veil.

Hahaha. 90% of the show this summer was hot garbage.

Primetime soaps tanked. Sitcoms made a comeback. Rookie breakout The Cosby Show became the sophomore slaughterer. Rookie that shocked the world Murder, She Wrote became the sophomore surprise. Simon & Simon, The A-Team, and Magnum, P.I. were old and busted. Miami Vice was the new hotness.

No to Kat/Jacob. Stealing your cousin's man when there's no rivalry is not cool. Kat/Eva are the sisters fighting over a guy rivalry I want.

The Google generation that binge watches.

From what I know, Andrea Evans was not well-received as Patty. It was her 1985-1990 One Life to Live run that made her a soap superstar.

Honestly no, and that's going all the way back to the 1980s, starting with Andrea Evans. ABC big three acting style is a different beast than Y&R acting style. I remember an early 1990s interview with PB where he even said as much. At the height of MAB and her love of ABC leftovers (IIRC she brought on Tristan Rogers, Genie Francis, Debbi Morgan, Darnell Williams), I really thought she would try to get Susan Lucci as a recast Julia Newman but thankfully that didn't happen.

I rushed home from school for the Acapulco episodes. It was a turning point in Roger/Holly relationship for them to confront their past. MZ should have gotten a Lead Actor nomination for those episodes. Another key moment in Roger/Holly relationship is when Roger showed up at Holly's house and admitted that he still loved her. I think that was in late 1991 or early 1992, I can't for the life of me remember the exact time.

Great, more ABC leftovers 🙄

Then again, Andre was comforting and supporting Dani in her time of need 🥰

When Kat visited Joey, I was so scared for her. Hahaha, dead 🤣

Maybe he should take his talents to BtG.

@Speed Racer Nadine as a prototype for Beyond the Gates Vanessa McBride, I could see that.

Do not put that out there in the universe.

It was wrong to root for Roger/Holly because of their past yet it was so right to root them. There were always hints of something brewing between them. MG herself said that she and MZ connected right away as actors and clearly the writers and the audience saw that connection as well. Roger/Holly were once described as the anti-supercouple and that description fits them perfectly. I don't know if this was posted here before but SOD had Roger/Holly as Most Intriguing Couple in the Best of 1989 issue.

Some names I'm throwing out there: Nathan Purdee, Darnell Williams

A look back at 1985/86, the turning point season of the 1980s, as we approach its 40th anniversary. #1 NBC (1984/85 2nd) Top 10: 1. The Cosby Show (1984/85 3rd), 2. Family Ties (1984/85 5th), 5. Cheers (1984/85 12th), 7. The Golden Girls (first season), 9. Miami Vice (1984/85 below the Top 30) Top 30: 11. Night Court (1984/85 20th), 13. Highway to Heaven (1984/85 19th), 19. You Again? (first season), 20. 227 (first season), 21. NBC Sunday movie (1984/85 below the Top 30), 22. NBC Monday movie (1984/85 18th), 24. Valerie (first season), 27. The Facts of Life (1984/85 below the Top 30), 30. The A-Team (1984/85 6th) Top 30 fallouts: Remington Steele (1984/85 25th), Hill Street Blues (1984/85 30th) Below the Top 30: Gimme a Break!, St. Elsewhere, Hunter Final season: Riptide (1984/85 14th), TV's Bloopers & Practical Jokes (1984/85 22nd), Knight Rider, Silver Spoons, Punky Brewster New fall shows returning in 1986/87: The Golden Girls, 227, Amazing Stories New midseason/summer shows returning in 1986/87: You Again?, Valerie, 1986, Me & Mrs. C, Stingray 2nd CBS (1984/85 #1) Top 10: 3. Murder, She Wrote (1984/85 8th); 4. 60 Minutes (1984/85 4th), 6. Dallas (1984/85 2nd) Top 30: 12. CBS Sunday Movie (first season), 14. Kate & Allie (1984/85 17th), 16. Newhart (1984/85 16th), 17. Knots Landing (1984/85 9th), 24. Falcon Crest (1984/85 10th), 28. Scarecrow & Mrs. King (1984/85 22nd), 29. Simon & Simon (1984/85 7th) Top 30 fallouts: Magnum, P.I. (1984/85 15th), Cagney & Lacey (1984/85 28th) Below the Top 30: CBS Tuesday movie Final season: Crazy Like a Fox (1984/85 10th), Trapper John, M.D. (1984/85 29th); Airwolf New fall shows returning in 1986/87: The Equalizer, The Twilight Zone New midseason/summer shows returning in 1986/87: CBS Sunday Movie, West 57th 3rd ABC (1984/85 3rd) Top 10: 7. Dynasty (1984/85 #1), 10. Who’s the Boss? (1984/85 below the Top 30) Top 30: 15. Monday Night Football (1984/85 25th), 17. Growing Pains (first season), 22. Hotel (1984/85 12th), 24. Moonlighting (1984/85 below the Top 30) Top 30 fallouts: ABC Sunday movie (1984/85 21st), Webster (1984/85 25th) Below the Top 30: ABC Monday movie, Monday Night Baseball, 20/20, Mr. Belvedere Final season: The Fall Guy (1984/85 22nd), The Love Boat, Hardcastle and McCormick, Benson, Ripley's Believe it or Not!, Life's Most Embarrassing Moments, ABC Thursday movie New fall shows returning in 1986/87: Growing Pains, Spenser: For Hire, MacGyver, The Colbys New midseason/summer shows returning in 1986/87: Disney Sunday Movie, Perfect Strangers 1985/86 is best remembered for sitcoms making a comeback and the primetime soaps tanking. It was a sign of the times that escapism was on the way out. Television viewers sought comfort and warmth because the world around us was changing so much.

Yay!

@bongobong Peak Bill Bell B&B was 1989 Sally Spectra arrival to 1993 Brooke takes over Forrester.

Y&R peak eras to me were 1984 through first half of 1986, 1990 through first half of 1994, second half of 1997 through 1998. Second half of 1986 through 1989 Cricket ate the show. Second half of 1994 through first half of 1997 Y&R got off-track due to Nick/Sharon eating the show and a storyline lull. 1998 Bill Bell stepped down and we know the rest.