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I believe Jill was alone from when she got exposed by Katherine for seeing both Rex and John at the same time until she was interested in Blade but Blade was drawn to Ashley. In the interim Jill tried to get back with John, that was when she exposed Dina for lying about an illness when Dina was actually broke. Victor/Jill hookup they were both alone (Victor marriage to Ashley ended and Victor tried to reconcile with Nikki but Nikki decided to remain married to Jack as she was pregnant by Jack) and the seeds had been planted earlier (Summer 1989 episodes and in a 1991 episode we saw during the classics they appeared intrigued by each other) but for Victor it was a diversion yet Jill thought she would be the next Mrs. Newman. A Victor/Jill pairing would have been more 1990s business power couple than genuine love. Randy Brooks was gone in the early months of 1994. As we all know, Shemar Moore arrived that spring and when he blew up in popularity, Bill Bell lost interest in Nathan.

Baby Colleen. Olivia pregnant with Nate.

Starts at 18:24. Promo for the last episode of the 1980s. Starts at 11:29. Promo for the first episode of the 1990s. Starts at 11:43. Promo for the finale.

Starts at 2:42. Promo for the last episode of the 1980s. Starts at 44:33. Promo for the first episode of the 1990s. Starts at 2:03. Promo for the finale.

Starts at 18:14. Promo for the last episode of the 1980s. Starts at 11:19. Promo for the first episode of the 1990s. Starts at 8:42. Promo for the finale.

@DramatistDreamer CBS had the best promos BITD.

Two more CBS summer promo songs that I remember. 1986 1987 A Summer 1986 promo for all four soaps was online once but I can't find it anymore and I haven't been able to find any Summer 1987 promos.

Michael Jordan Doesn't Approve of Son Marcus Jordan Dating Larsa Pippen (tmz.com) I best believe Michael Jordan has some estate planning happening as I write this.

April 23, 1979: Love of Life new time 4 pm ET, where it was isolated from the rest of the CBS soap block. That move screams tank job.

That's more a catchphrase. See also "I'll be damned". A Victor trademark is calling people he doesn't like/trust by their full name and its sounds like one word, ie. Jackabbott, Billyboyabbott, Dianejenkins, Tuckermccall.

In all the years I've watched daytime, Ronn Moss is probably the only actor who's acting got worse the longer he played his character.

@Soapsuds Maybe tanking wasn't the right description but the CBS numbers are very up-and-down. We'll see what happens during the rest of the fall.

So far in September CBS with the exception of GL is tanking. It's so funny how the fortunes of CBS daytime and primetime changed in opposite directions over the course of the 1980s. CBS daytime was shaken up at the beginning of the 1980s by the huge rise of ABC but was #1 by the end of the decade with all four soaps hitting their stride plus the game show block. CBS primetime was #1 at the beginning of the 1980s and riding high thanks to Who Shot JR mania but was an absolute mess by the end of the decade.

It's amazing that soaps survived past that era. Look at what was happening on and off screen. Reilly's Days blew up in the aftermath of OJ. Y&R off track. B&B tanking. P&G 1995 EP swap at all three shows. ABC sold to Disney. CBS sold to Westinghouse and Les Moonves arrives.

Agree. Non-storyline summer events that had an impact on soaps. Summer 1987: Iran-Contra hearings. The first big summer pre-emption I remember. Summer 1988: Writer's strike. So many shows felt off. Summer 1994: OJ. Soaps weren't the same in the aftermath of OJ.

Also GL summer 1993: Roger/Holly become involved and Roger's crashes Ed's party at the country club (the episode that got Michael Zaslow his long-awaited for Lead Actor Emmy.) Forgot to mention in my previous post B&B summer 1992: Sheila's new reign of terror. B&B summer 1993: Battle for Belief. Bill Bell's last hurrah before passing the reigns to Bradley.

Yes, so much sneak watching on school breaks. Y&R summers 1986-1993: Social issue storylines that usually featured Cricket plus a cringey Danny concert in many of those summers. Y&R summer 1990: Early Dru plus Sheila's reign of terror beginning. B&B summer 1990: Caroline's death. I cried so much after her final episode. Thankfully school didn't start for another few weeks. GL summer 1991: Alexandra exposing Roger at the country club. GL summer 1992: Blackout Y&R summer 1994: Frat party started

@JoeCool I'm hardly an expert, but thank you for the compliment I don't know about time shifting in 1979, but with Y&R expansion on February 4, 1980, there were two different schedules I've seen CBS affiliates use. 10 am Eastern/9 am Central, Mountain, Pacific The Jeffersons reruns 10:30 am/9:30 am Whew! 11 am/10 am The Price is Right Noon/11 am Local programming 12:30 pm/11:30 am Search for Tomorrow 1 pm/Noon Y&R 2 pm/1 pm As the World Turns 3 pm/2 pm Guiding Light 4 pm/3 pm One Day at a Time reruns or 9 am Central, Mountain, Pacific The Jeffersons reruns 9:30 am Whew! 10 am The Price is Right 11 am Y&R Noon Local programming 12:30 pm Search for Tomorrow 1 pm As the World Turns 2 pm Guiding Light 3 pm One Day at a Time reruns

@YRfan23 Come to think of it, a good choice for Tuesday's Fourth of July classic would have been 1993. That episode was the lead up to Billy's birth.

That would have been around the time of OJ. The P&G shows were effectively done in the aftermath of OJ. It's been posted here several times over the years that the big 1995 EP swap did long-term damage to all three shows. It's amazing that two of the three P&G shows made it to the 2000s.

Budget mode most likely lead to a salary cap, thus new hires were done on the cheap.

Agree. I am totally here for this.

In my mind, B&B classics are 1987-1993.

When NBC was killing it in primetime How NBC's primetime lineups fared each season of these promos. 1985/86 Top 10: 1. The Cosby Show (1984/85 3rd), 2. Family Ties (1984/85 5th), 5. Cheers (1984/85 12th), 7. The Golden Girls (first season), 9. Miami Vice (1984/85 below the Top 30) Top 30: 11. Night Court (1984/85 20th), 13. Highway to Heaven (1984/85 19th), 19. You Again? (first season), 20. 227 (first season), 21. NBC Sunday movie (1984/85 below the Top 30), 22. NBC Monday movie (1984/85 18th), 24. Valerie (first season), 27. The Facts of Life (1984/85 below the Top 30), 30. The A-Team (1984/85 6th) Top 30 fallouts: Remington Steele (1984/85 25th), Hill Street Blues (1984/85 30th) Below the Top 30: Gimme a Break!, St. Elsewhere, Hunter Final season: Riptide (1984/85 14th), TV's Bloopers & Practical Jokes (1984/85 22nd), Knight Rider, Silver Spoons, Punky Brewster New fall shows returning in 1986/87: The Golden Girls, 227, Amazing Stories New midseason/summer shows returning in 1986/87: You Again?, Valerie, 1986, Me & Mrs. C, Stingray NBC moves up from 2nd to #1 and remains #1 until 1990/91. 1986/87 Top 10: 1. The Cosby Show, 2. Family Ties, 3. Cheers, 5. The Golden Girls, 7. Night Court Top 30: 13. Amen (first season), 14. 227, 15. Matlock (first season), 15. NBC Monday movie, 20. NBC Sunday movie, 21. L.A. Law (first season), 24. Highway to Heaven, 26. Miami Vice, 28. ALF (first season), 28. Hunter Top 30 fallouts: Valerie, The Facts of Life Below the Top 30: St. Elsewhere Final season: You Again?, The A-Team, Remington Steele, Hill Street Blues, Gimme a Break!, Amazing Stories, 1986, Me & Mrs. C, Stingray New fall shows returning in 1987/88: Amen, Matlock, L.A. Law, ALF, Crime Story, Our House New midseason/summer shows returning in 1987/88: The Bronx Zoo, The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd, Rags to Riches 1987/88 Top 10: 1. The Cosby Show, 2. A Different World (first season), 3. Cheers, 4. The Golden Girls, 7. Night Court, 10. ALF Top 30: 12. L.A. Law, 14. Matlock, 15. Amen, 17. Family Ties, 19. In the Heat of the Night (first season), 20. My Two Dads (first season), 20. Valerie's Family (renamed from Valerie), 23. NBC Sunday movie, 26. NBC Monday movie, 27. 227, 28. Day by Day (first season), 29. Hunter, 30. Aaron's Way (first and only season). Top 30 fallouts: Highway to Heaven, Miami Vice Final season: The Facts of Life, St. Elsewhere, Crime Story, Our House, The Bronx Zoo, The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd, Rags to Riches New fall shows returning in 1988/89: A Different World, My Two Dads New midseason/summer shows returning in 1988/89: In the Heat of the Night, Day by Day, Sonny Spoon 1988/89 Top 10: 1. The Cosby Show, 3. A Different World, 4. Cheers, 6. The Golden Girls, 9. Empty Nest (first season) Top 30: 11. Dear John (first season), 12. Matlock, 13. L.A. Law, 15. ALF, 17. Unsolved Mysteries (first season), 18. In the Heat of the Night, 19. Hunter, 21. Night Court, 22. The Hogan Family (renamed from Valerie's Family), 22. NBC Sunday movie, 25. Amen, 25. NBC Monday movie Top 30 fallouts: My Two Dads, 227 Final season: Family Ties, Day by Day, Highway to Heaven, Miami Vice, Sonny Spoon New fall shows returning in 1989/90: Empty Nest, Dear John, Unsolved Mysteries, The Magical World of Disney, Midnight Caller New midseason/summer shows returning in 1989/90: 13 East, Quantum Leap 1989/90 Top 10: 1. The Cosby Show, 3. Cheers, 4. A Different World, 6. The Golden Girls, 9. Empty Nest Top 30: 11. Unsolved Mysteries, 15. Grand (first season), 16. L.A. Law, 17. Dear John, 19. In the Heat of the Night, 20. Matlock, 24. Hunter, 28. Night Court Top 30 fallouts: NBC Sunday movie, Amen, NBC Monday movie Below the Top 30: Midnight Caller, Quantum Leap Final season: ALF, The Hogan Family, My Two Dads, 227, The Magical World of Disney, 13 East No new fall shows returned in 1990/91. New midseason/summer shows returning in 1990/91: Grand, Down Home, Real Life with Jane Pauley, Seinfeld, Shannon's Deal, Wings 1990/91 Top 10: 1. Cheers, 4. A Different World, 5. The Cosby Show, 7. Empty Nest, 10. The Golden Girls Top 30: 16. Unsolved Mysteries, 17. Matlock, 21. In the Heat of the Night, 23. L.A. Law, 25. Grand (final season) Top 30 fallouts: Dear John, Night Court Below the Top 30: NBC Sunday movie, NBC Monday movie, Quantum Leap, Seinfeld, Wings Final season: Hunter, Amen, Midnight Caller, Down Home, Real Life with Jane Pauley, Shannon's Deal New fall shows returning in 1991/92: The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Law & Order New midseason/summer shows returning in 1991/92: Blossom, Sisters

Oil companies were a 1980s trend that were out of place in the 1990s.