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Hayley put too much poison because it wasn't supposed to act that fast. How is she could to maneuver out of this? Lol. Anita putting Bill on notice was a good scene. She didn't like Bill from the start so she's going to keep her foot on his neck this time to make sure he won't hurt Dani. Vanessa is a complete wreck and made a fool out of herself two episodes in a row. Anastacia is a good antagonist and had Doug survived she would have been a great person for him to get involved with because it would have really irritated Vanessa.

Vanessa getting drunk and making herself look stupid over Joey of all people was pathetic. Leslie treating Mona and Laura like that help was so disrespectful, but totally on brand. Ashley was super pressed and that "You ARE NOT Hayley" comment from Dani was such a dig. Kat can be annoying, but she is the one dodging a bullet by not moving in with Tomas. He is trying to build his social/personal rep for moving up in the firm and he's using Kat to do that.

The show went through so much heavy storyline this year that they set themselves up for a lull at the end of the year.

Doctors Ted and Carlton are about to be looking pissed like "well damn, she's really not checking for either of us".

I made the edit that it was 10 episodes. I was looking at multiple series and mixed up episode counts.

Jennifer Lopez had a moderate success with "Shades of Blue" which had three seasons, but that was over 20 years after a triple play of flops within the span of less than a year. There was a drama called "Second Chances" that lasted 10 episodes and what is crazy is that she went on to play the same character in a spinoff called "Hotel Malibu" which last 6 episodes. Between that she recurred on "South Central" which was actually a good series, but I don't think audiences were ready for a show about how rough that neighborhood was back then even if there was comedy included.

Chelsea is seriously annoying and way out of line. Willow is clearly insane and for Chelsea to co-sign her lunacy was absurd. Madison implying she is stupid was well deserved. Melba is such an uncommon name that I have to wonder if it's usage was inspired by Melba Moore who Clifton Davis dated in the 70s. Kat flies off the handle too easily.

No spoilers, but the October 18th, 1984 episode knocked me down for the count. That was some strong material and acting.

No spoilers, but the October 18th, 1984 episode knocked me down for the count. That was some strong material and acting.

Unhoused basically is what is used by advocates to try and destigmitize homelessness in order to get more funding and resources. Joey manipulating Vanessa by acting like he feels too inferior for the country club goes to show how dumb she is. Of course she already demonstrated her idiocy by passing out escort service cards at the country club. It's fine that the subject of health care is addressed, but it needs to sounds less like a pamphlet. That dialogue was a bit clunky.

Tanice sounds like a gospel singer, lol.

The show has leaned in a lot of letting the viewers know who the characters are and that is what the flashback was about. It really should have been used during Bill's health scare, but there seems to be somewhat of a build up to Bill possibly collapsing from being poisoned (maybe at Winterfest?) and the reactions to that.

Vanessa was making a huge assumption that other women in Fairmont Crest cheat on their husbands and would pay for services. She thinks her hands are clean, but I'm guessing that Joey is trafficking some people for the escort service. If he's willing to committ murder then he'll traffic. Bill's not going to have to worry about not being a part of a family, because if Hayley gets her way he'll be seeing his parents soon.

Back to the topic at hand, Reba McEntire had a flop with "Malibu Country" post "Reba". It seems like she's found another hit with "Happy's Place". Meredith Baxter's first hit was "Bridget Loves Bernie", but it was canceled due to backlash from Orthodox Rabbis over interfaith marriage being portrayed. Several bomb and death threats were made against the show. Nell Carter did "You Take The Kids" with Roger E. Mosley (who I had a major crush on) and it was supposed to be the Black answer to Roseanne, but it only lasted 6 episodes. She went on to do two seasons of "Hangin' With Mr. Cooper".

It was a rather odd thing to post.

Tracee Ellis Ross did "Reed Between The Lines" with Malcolm-Jamal Warner on BET when the network was first getting into scripted programming. She left after the first season and a couple of years later landed "Black-ish". Cedric The Entertainer spent six seasons on "The Steve Harvey Show" and later did four seasons of "The Soul Man" before finding his biggest hit with "The Neighborhood". His only flop was the sketch show "Cedric The Entertainer Presents". Christina Applegate did a few of two season series post "Married...With Children", "Jesse", "Samantha Who?" and "Up All Night" before her most nominated role on "Dead To Me".

That would have worked great. Lucy had a sarcasm about her that would have worked very well going up against any of the 80s soap villains. Falcon Crest would have been the best fit.

That is true. It's not that June can't go to that level, she's just at the point where she is trying to get herself together and doesn't have time for Leslie's nonsense.

A poor theme song and opening credits can break a new sitcom, IMO. The vibe is set for the viewer from the first chord of the theme song. Of course, poor writing and concept doesn't help much either.

Patty Duke was an Academy Award and Emmy Award winner, but success with another series after "The Patty Duke Show" never materialized. Her first venture "Hail To The Chief" in 1985 lasted only 7 episodes. After that she did "Karen's Song" on the then brand new FOX Network, but it went nowhere. Her last try at a series was a drama called "Amazing Grace" which was only 5 episodes.

Physical comedy was used very sparingly at the time where it was only funny if the audience was actually surprised by it. The writing being old hat was the man problem, but the supporting cast was so awful and I only managed to get through about five episodes. The only episode that I slightly enjoyed was one where Lucy gave away her son's teddy bear and the woman who bought it wouldn't give it back. Dena Dietrich's back and forth with Lucy actually worked and she would have been a decent co-star had the project been done right.

Suzanne Pleshette had a number of misses after being on "The Bob Newhart Show". Her first was the sitcom "Maggie Briggs" (also known as "Suzanne Pleshette is Maggie Briggs") and then she tried dramas "Bridges To Cross" and "Nightengales" before later trying another sitcom called "The Boys Are Back" with Hal Linden. Her last regular series role was in the first season of "Good Morning, Miami". "Bridges to Cross" also featured Eva Gabor in what was her only other series regular role other that "Green Acres".

Happy Thanksgiving. I hope everyone had a wonderful day and will continue to enjoy the weekend.

Steve Guttenberg failed at primetime series before he focused energy on movies. He had two really bizarre series, "Billy" where he played a mortician's clerk who daydreamed in every episode and later "No Soap, Radio" which was intentionally non-sensical. "No Soap, Radio" was Hillary B. Smith's first regular role on television. Laurence Fishburne (credited as Larry) starred with Mr. Kim Zimmer, AC Weary in "The Six O'Clock Follies". The show was set during the Vietnam War. Robert Guillaume did a self-titled sitcom a few years after "Benson" that revolved around him playing a single father who dates his white secretary. Robert claimed ABC set the show up for failure by showing episodes out of order. He also did "Pacific Station" a couple of years later. "Sports Night" was his last series and it lasted 45 episodes.

Raymond Burr settled into "Ironside" just a year after "Perry Mason" ended and was on television nearly non-stop from the late 50s to mid 70s. He had a flop with "Kingston: Confidential" but later revived "Perry Mason" with a series of TV movies. In between those he did a short series that dramatized real cases where he played a fictional judge. Rita Moreno was on "The Electric Company", then the network seasons of "9 to 5", "Oz" on HBO and the revival of "One Day At a Time". The one season flops she had were "The Cosby Mysteries" (which was a big wtf is this series) and "Cane" which debuted during a writers strike.