Darn

Travis Schuldt was in the season 8 premiere of American Horror Story. Minor role but he's aged exceptionally well into dad territory.

The real start of a classic soap feud, the moment Stephanie first learns of Eric and Brooke's affair. Susan Flannery is magnificent here. I can't believe it took her until 2000 to win an Emmy for this part!

This interview is fascinating. She's claiming that in 1969-70 that a 1/3 of the audience was black and that ABC had the numbers to back this up, although because she didn't have representation she wasn't privy to this. Wasn't there research from the 90s-early 2000s claiming the same thing? Say Erika Slezak had one of the most high powered agents in Hollywood when she was cast, considering who her father was I'm not surprised. Al Freeman made 4 times as much as Ellen Holly on the show. When he joined the show his lawyer negotiated a contract for 100k a year. Says she made less in 1973 than she did in 1969! Wow. Agnes Nixon did her dirty. It took her 5 years to realize that Agnes Nixon wasn't she just the writer of OLTL but the creator and soul owner. Wow. She was really kept out of the loop on the business side of the show. Sounds like most of that ignorance was bore out of fear of losing her job. As someone stuck in the middle, too light to be black, too black to be white, I get it but damn. And wow, just like Victoria Rowell she wrote for the show with no recognition or pay. Also she mentioned that AMC had some big black story when it first started? Did it? I feel like the black presence on AMC started (and ended almost) with Angie and Jesse. What a smart woman. She knows the industry and she KNOWS soap history, she listed other soap stars off like it was nothing. Watch the whole thing. Heartbreaking!

Imagine if instead of bringing on Shaun and his family (I don't remember their family name), they'd have brought on Carla's (they could've given her and Ed more kids, adopted or bio, doesn't matter). It would have been great. Sigh. I know they tried with Joshua and Ed but they didn't really try. And that they didn't get Ellen Holly to come back is such a missed opportunity. Thanks for sharing this. I know what I'm doing for the next hour.

I'd kill to see that Sadie/Carla cliffhanger. The fact that OLTL ended up so incredibly white and insular is a damn shame (I know the show was "diverse" or WHATEVER but I don't think any soap has embraced having a truly diverse cast of characters where people of color feel fully integrated into the story and as important as any of the white characters). My mother tells me that the black audience knew Clara/Carla was black. We're usually good at spotting our people. Was Carla a lighskinned black woman or biracial? Did we ever learn anything about her father?

She may have but the show never did. OLTL and Days have had similarly outlandish stories for their lead heroines and they...worked somehow, for the most part. The stories for Reva are almost universally panned.

And it's wild to me that after the debacle of the clone saga (™ Marvel) they had San Cristobel and THEN Reva jumping through time via a portrait of Olivia. It's absolute insanity to put her character through those high concept stories one after the other and then like someone else said give her realistic stories like cancer and a late in life baby. Other soap leads were given similar stories, Viki for example, but they were usually years apart. Sometimes decades. Reva was thrown into these nonsense stories one after the other. How was that time travel story resolved anyway?

That's clone Reva again lol It's wild that GL went from the realism of Maureen's death to cloning in 4 short years. I don't know how the Josh character recovered from that...he basically created a girl in order to fück her.

EJ Bonilla (Rafe, GL) was on the most recent episode of Insecure. Looking hot af I might add.

What a weird scene. I wonder why they did this. And the contacts on Joy Lenz are super weird.

Thanks. I'm surprised the ratings didn't go up. I think she's just great as Alex. And she seems to be relishing the material.

I can't believe Vincent Irizarry was popular as Lujack or Nick. He's super obnoxious in all the clips I've seen of him. Was Joan Collins stint really not well-received? She's so good as Alexandra, closer to the Beverly McKinsey's Alex than Marj Dusay by far. I wonder why she joined one of the lowest rated soaps, anyone have any idea how much they paid her? Did her casting impact the ratings?

I was watching a series of scenes surrounding Maureen's death in 93 and even then she was matronly. I felt like she was written to be more vivacious than Keifer's portrayal. And after a certain point they stopped trying. The age difference between her and Ross seemed to disappear.

Ah okay. Thanks, I had a feeling it wasn't an out and out affair based on the Maureen/Holly scene I watched earlier. Do you think Blake was diminished by the recast? I'm watching 92 GL and she's a much more interesting character, a real combination of her parents and not nearly as matronly looking as Elizabeth Keifer's version. I always thought she looked too old to believably be Maureen Garrett's daughter.

How many times did Ed cheat on Maureen? I know there was Michelle's mother and Lillian but he slept with Holly too while they were married? What were the circumstances?

I'm sure this has been posted but here is a behind the scenes look at the 80s live episode (the first clip is from Entertainment Tonight, featuring the recently departed Robin Leach). It is exceptionally boring. Hearing the interactions in the control room was more exciting than the entire thing. There wasn't one gripping moment in the whole episode. I wonder why Jo wasn't in the show, you'd think they'd feature their leading lady even if they had to shoehorn her in.

The ending credits to Guiding Light series finale are great. Shame it ended in 1993. jk

Yes and Obba Babatundé, who plays Julius Avant on B&B as her husband. And I was just trying to figure out how old VR was in the commercial and wow she was 31 when she was cast as Drucilla? I always thought she was like 20...wasn't Dru supposed to be that young?

Wow I never thought I'd see this scene again. I added the Elvis Costello song played at the end there to my rotation soon after. I think this was Malone's first or second week back? @Vee would know. AND I think you were the one who said at the time that Troy went on a trip to the hershey highway with Lindsay in this scene. It sounds like something you'd say!

Thanks, @DRW50

So after reading this thread I've been watching a lot of AW clips. Never got a chance to watch this show when it was on. I'm blown away by Lorna (Alicia Coppola, I haven't seen Robin Christopher yet) and Felicia's relationship. They have amazing chemistry and the story is so well told. Question, I looked up Felicia's other daughter Jenna and saw that she left in 1993 and never came back. Was she ever mentioned again? Also when Lorna was revealed Felicia's daughter there were a lot of references to their resemblance, was this brought up again when she was recast? Because RC is a pale redhead and looks nothing like Dano.

Thom Bierdz is still out there posting videos like...this: And this: Has he always talked like this? He's an odd duck.

"Perhaps you didn't hear Joseph, I'm not receiving tonight which means please leave!" My god, what a scene! They are both fabulous here. It's so well written. Which creative team was this? And is that Alexandra's house or the Spaulding mansion? It actually looks...large and not the one library set their used for the last 10 years. Even simply things like Alexandra acknowledging the generational differences between herself and Reva (when she talks about how you can't drink or smoke while pregnant now) adds so much to the characters. Now people on soaps are ALL in the general age range of 25-40. You can have Jack on Y&R talking about the same concerns as someone 40 years younger than him. It's so stupid.

At the time I loved Rose, I was drawn into the show by the spa storyline, but looking at clips now I find Martha Byrne 1000% obnoxious. With that accent, that hair, those clothes. I can't imagine how long time viewers felt about all that. That said, I loved her with Scott Holroyd's Paul. I see he was only on the show for 2 years. Why'd they let him go? He was great. Roger Howarth was seriously miscast and frankly he hasn't given a good performance since 1998. Speaking of bad recast, I don't even know the actress' name but whoever they cast as Alison after Jessica Dunphy was a mistake. JD was green but super earnest in the role and made a pretty underwritten part into someone you could root for. I loved her and Aaron. I don't understand ANY of the choices they made with that character when they had her and Amber being cam girls or whatever in order to make Daniel cheat on Lily with porn. WTF was that even.