DramatistDreamer

I know we’re all spitballing ideas and putting in our 2 cents but I think it’s important to keep in mind the actual premise of the series based on what was pitched. The pitch presents the premise that this family is already powerful, affluent and living in a gated community. That’s undoubtedly what both the NAACP and likely even P&G signed onto and are expecting. The idea of making a Black family the only family on daytime television whom would acquire their wealth, not through their own ingenuity or hard work but through the luck of the lottery— that’s very far from the original pitch. The NAACP, as well as P&G would have rights to withdraw from the partnership.

^^Complications from a fall, an unfortunate post script to what was no doubt a once promising career and life of public service that went awry along the way.

They were both on my list of wishful castings that I posted a few pages ago. I don’t know how involved P&G would be involved in the production process of the actual series but in the old days of PGP, they built this entire universe of talent in front of, as well as behind the camera and these actors would often go back and forth between their soaps. Think of all the actors who went from EON to ATWT and AW to GL and ATWT. Writers, directors and editors too.

Good. Let those “journalists” continue to peddle their missives about crazy Trump, his sycophants and wackadoodle cult followers since that is more their speed anyway. Whatever happened to waiting a few years after an administration tenure ends and getting some perspective before writing a book? I don’t think these hacks like to write about Democrats anyway. Any books they wrote about Hillary were usually through the lens about her husband’s indiscretions (annd Hillary wrote far more interesting books about herself than they did) and the best-selling books about Obama were written by…Obama. Maybe these navel gazing journos ought to start writing books about each other…it would be perfect for them.

Only time will truly tell but with the involvement of the NAACP, I think, chances are the metrics will reflect the centering of Black women as viewers and consumers.

Reading the actual details of how it happened and the cargo ship lost power before striking the bridge and causing the bridge’s collapse. Wow. I do wonder about the state of the bridge and its resiliency (or lack thereof). When I get the chance to read more in depth, maybe it will be more clear.

You’re welcome.☺️

^^For decades, the U.S. Open used to use towels to mop up wet/damp courts during match play. For decades Wimbledon claimed that it was impossible to continue play after sundown, until they decided it was possible. RG, in all their disputes with the city of Paris over spacing issues, decided to squeeze spectators underneath a sign that fell narrowly missing seriously injuring several spectators and then Australian Open still plays fast and loose with the heat rules. Some players, depending on who backs them up can get less of a suspension for failed drug tests than someone who has missed reporting of location Tennis, in general, as a sport is not serious. That’s why it’s even more of a niche sport than it was 7 years ago.

If a family acquired their wealth through haircare products, P&G can provide a wealth of information for the soap to draw on as their recent acquisition of Mielle (which was controversial but did not generate as much anger toward the founder as the acquisition of Carol’s Daughter by L’Oreal years ago) can illustrate. https://us.pg.com/blogs/black-history-month-2023-innovators-series/ If there isn’t direct product placement in the actual show, expect to see some sort of tie-in, either digitally or magazine, etc. to the daytime soap.

As a general rule, I don’t make assumptions as to what could have caused this, but people need to be aware or keep in mind that the vast amount of bridges in the U.S. are in severe disrepair, meaning that, it would not take much for a collapse to occur. Hopefully everyone will be safe and no further injuries will ensue.

I’m watching a miniseries called Nolly starring Helena Bonham Carter as Noele “Nolly” Gordon, an actress who became a legendary soap star and a British television staple who, in the latter stages of her career was unceremoniously fired from the soap she starred in, Crossroads.

Not to mention, L.A. is very much known as a union town, while Atlanta is…er, not so much. A series like this is probably going to want full access to unionized labor that, preferably has some experience with working in daytime?

Haha, for that reason, I never personally mentioned Atlanta, although I can understand why others would jump to that conclusion. Also, we saw with the TOLN soaps that shooting a daytime soap outside of the usual milleu where there is infrastructure already in place can cause extra challenges that may negate the potential cost savings.

The GOP is chaos personified. How many House Republicans are leaving now? I’ve lost count.

True. I can even remember watching some early-mid 80s soaps that had some flimsy sets (walls that shook when an actor slammed a door) but you didn’t care because everything else you were seeing was so compelling. Ha! Yes though, truly good writing is the #1 priority. Without this, nothing else works, no matter how high the production values climb.

^^ My point is that this type of shooting scenes was never one that ATWT adopted, so I am not why it’s being associated with being a P&G thing.

As far as I recall, ATWT didn’t truly adopt that Peapack style of filming. From what I recall, that was specific to Ellen Wheeler’s production model.

We’ve bandied about quite a few names for wishful casting. Ultimately it will be the decision for tptb to make but I want to put another name out there, so if anyone who has an “in” with the development of this soap peeps this, in addition to the names I had mentioned like the likes of Tonya Pinkins, Tamara Tunie, Amelia Marshall, Victoria Rowell, Count Stovall and Petronia Paley, I want to suggest that they do not sleep on the talented and beautiful Loren Lott who was criminally underutilized on Y&R. Because of how little storyline she received, she’s still a relatively fresh face but one with valuable soap experience. Another name I would suggest is Lamman Rucker whose charisma and magnetism was used an abused during his time on ATWT. Another thing that I wondered/mused about is what industry/field will the wealthy family(families) make their wealth on. I feel like at least one family should be a haircare magnate, right? There are some opportunities for some gifted hairstylists to really get creative here. Black hair is not just about creative expression, it can also be an art.

Jason Canela (Arturo Rosales, Y&R) seems to be keeping booked an busy since his days on the soap opera. He’s in the cast of the Apple TV+ series Palm Royale. https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/other/palm-royale-cast-on-laughing-and-playing-wordle-with-co-star-carol-burnett-to-work-with-her-is-beyond-a-dream-come-true/ar-BB1keFFr

Giving this post a bump because I think you posed some interesting question here. On a previous page, I asked about whether we might be privy to the story bible once it’s been completed because this will give us a clearer idea of how these issues will play out, at least initially, knowing that there needs to be room for flexibility in storytelling. I know that it’s common for scripts for award nominated screenplays to be available for download (whether through above-board platforms or underground vendors, in the very early ‘00s when I was in grad school.👀) With the current technology, it would be quite easy to read and would be great if we all don’t have to wait 20 years to read it. I realize some people might now want to take a look behind the curtain but for me, it would be instructive to see how the process itself plays out. For me personally, it’s not interesting enough to have a bunch of rich people cloistered behind a gated community. Maybe for 6 weeks but then I would need something more than that. And because he refused, he had a career! Coming To America alone solidified his place in movie and pop culture history.

I think a show needs that balance. The problem with Good Times was not because of having a low-income Black family on screen. The problem was that the one Black writer on the show left over disagreements with upper management about the content and the direction of the characters and storylines. I think with good writing, you can have a balanced depiction of a low-income but striving Black family and Michele Val Jean being an accomplished Black woman writer makes the difference. Frankly with the story of a wealthy Black family and a low-income white family, the criticisms of an unrealistic or unbalanced portrayal is just as likely because we know that statistically, this is more of an anomaly, an exception to the rule. Let’s not dive headlong into a “Talented Tenth” type of scenario, that is a potential minefield too.

Somehow this bit of news missed me. During my teens, I used to pour over their catalogs but somehow by the time they made it to my area mall, I rarely purchased their products. The journey of the company is a solemn one, even before this closing news. Seems like the brand ventured far away from its roots.

^^ Ask Shuzo Matsuoka whether a cramp can be serious enough to warrant attention.

Is it me, or did there appear to be little urgency in getting to a player who’s just collapsed on court? Hope he’s alright. Sabalenka is experiencing the ‘best of times and the worst of times’ this season. It does seem Dickensian.

Is it like rain on your wedding day? You’re welcome. Sadly, some of the video quality of these YouTube uploads seem to have gotten worse over the years. Question: Once the story bible has been written, how long do you all estimate before it’s available to read? In this digital age, I hope it will available to read online.