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That's interesting. If it does well I wish there was a way they could make some new content.

Thanks for finding all those @dc11786 I'd forgotten the show went off for a bit. Glad they could return to close on a better note.

Sorry to hear this. I thought she'd passed a year or two ago. I liked her work as Mary, even if the character never went beyond a dimension and a half.

I'd guess this is something from ABC/Disney. I doubt Frank would be that invested. Stephen must enjoy his visits as he never seems like someone who doesn't do what he wants to do.

They were clearly referencing nurse Kelly from the late 00s.

Thanks for finding that @Franko

https://deadline.com/2025/09/golden-girls-emmy-tribute-reba-mcentire-little-big-town-1236530549/

Many that are around are in poor quality so I'm glad to see one in nice shape. I think the Mitch S channel also put up a number this year.

I never knew that. I'll have to look for that clip.

Thanks for your detailed response. I didn't realize just how complex the narrative had grown.

Andrea Evans, between her Y&R stint and OLTL return presumably, pops up at the end of Out of Control, a Dave Coulier show that I used to enjoy as a kid. She's not playing her usual type of character.

I'm surprised they brought back Barbara at all, to be honest, although I'm still glad they did. I suppose this must be down to Michael Laibson, as he had produced AW in the late '80s and had worked with Barbara Berjer. Berjer fit in well in her few appearances. Rauch likely never wanted to go near another older woman (it must have mainly been down to P&G respect for Mary Stuart that she stayed a part of GL even while sick with cancer), but her not being ther when Ken returned and when Holly went crazy was just wrong.

@Maxim Thanks again for all your clips and your thoughts on the show. Your views on the homophobia story - 30 years later - show the importance of the story. I often criticize "issue-based" stories on soap operas because I find them crass, exploitative, cowardly in many cases, hiding behind "awareness" for the sake of all kinds of horrors that do more harm than good (a recent Emmerdale story had a gay man who was thinking of coming out get severely beaten by another man he tried to meet - what a lovely message). Yet these stories, when told properly, can have a real impact. This one has a heart-wrenching impact, and the lessons taught about ignorance, fear, and trying to suppress the past feel more important than ever today.

As I watch some of the later years of the show in clip form I get why - the experience is formal and nightmarish with the latter winning out. I notice Tabitha seems to be one of the tamer parts of the show by the end. Another I enjoyed was Luis choking Spike out until Sheridan finally convinced him to stop... Do you wish they'd killed Alastair off earlier than they did or do you think he was still effective as a villain?

The OLTL story was much more heartbreaking, but I think the AMC story was risque in its own ways - namely in that the Andrew/Billy dynamics were now repeated with two gay men instead of just one. There was also the trash talk show aspect. If it got more awards love it may be down to happening 3-4 years later and AMC being a more awarded show than OLTL.

The show then got a slew of Emmy nominations, and some wins, a few years later, I suppose once they felt she had gotten the message or learned her place.

I remember all the praise Lenz got, but for some reason I thought Budig had wanted to leave as well, as her contract was up. Wasn't there some claim they briefly considered bringing Roxy back in this period?

Oh I didn't know that.

I can't see her coping any better than Marj but she may have had a bit more restraint (I know Susan can be a little hammy but she wasn't too often at this point).

Thanks @jam6242 I had no idea he co-wrote the DAYS theme, or that he co-wrote so many of the best pop songs of the '60s. "Hurt So Bad" alone is a masterpiece. Eerie this is right around the premiere of The Monkees.

I've forgotten more than I remember but thank you as always. I just learned today that Paulding and Miner were both in the same movie (the very controversial Bully from 2001). Now that we're in late 1997 GL, does anyone else remember the rumors that Ellen Parker (who'd made some brief appearances as Maureen's spirit) was going to appear as Abby's cellmate?

I appreciate the memories you and others share as I know I'll probably never see most of her work as Addie. What I have seen of Barry is always a little too theatrical for me. That's a perfect way to describe Miner's work. When her Michelle did smile or express happiness, you knew it was genuine. She does remind me a little of that Bianca. I think her name was Nathalie Paulding (?). Something along those lines. I actually liked her work as Bianca. She felt like one of those dying children in a Victorian-era film, which suited a child of the uber-dramatic Erica and Travis. I think some of that carried on with Eden Reigel. She reminds me a little of Miner but Miner was always a little tougher, especially after Maureen died. I think Budig left by her own choice.

I've listened a few times, although not often enough. It can be tough to dive in as the show has gone on so long and many years are impossible to find.

I do think you would have to be there and see Miner growing up in the part. I don't think it helps that I often hated Greenlee.

I think she was. Meg popped in and out up to 1994.