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Member discussion on what's happening today on their favorite soaps, including "The Bold and the Beautiful," "Days of our Lives," "General Hospital" and "The Young and the Restless."

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    • What put me off about DC was not criticism of the soaps - it was the water-carrying for certain soaps, and the dismissive view toward fans who had problems with those soaps, or with the people who made them (especially Ron Carlivati). This dismissiveness carried so far over into their worldview that they were openly contemptuous¬†toward the PP soaps, still waiting and hoping on that "Frankenron" hype train that never really arrived. ¬† I remember when I first came on here and even though there was a fair amount of support for MAB and Sheffer's Y&R, there was at least some diversity of opinion, enough to make me feel relieved. There was no such diversity on most other sites - instead I would read Branco's stuff or DC and just came away with the sense of oppressiveness and pushing of viewpoint, instead of genuinely caring about a soap.¬† ¬† There were plenty of attempts at catchphrases about "soapy goodness" and "hair models," and plenty of attempts to show us how hilarious and clever they were and how cool they were with the powers that be, but I never felt any real care, any real passion for a soap. I just felt a lot of coldness and cliqueishness.¬† ¬† That's probably a good way to get a following for your site and your podcast, and to get noticed by the right people in the industry, but when you run a soap yourself, that means you have to get the same soap fans who felt shut out by your content.¬† ¬† I certainly never went around telling people not to watch his show, but I also knew that someone like me, who didn't watch soaps like Y&R in the late '00s or OLTL in its last 5 years and think these were the ideals of storytelling,¬†would ever be welcome as a fan. And I wonder how many others who used to read DC back then felt the same.¬†
    • ICAM.¬† These words apply to 95% of the actors working in soaps today. ¬†
    • Donald Trump has never grown up from being the schoolyard bully; and sadly, he never will.
    • Trust me, @slick jones, when you have a name like mine, you learn you can't help being born with the name you're born with.¬† ;)
    • I came on here to post something else,¬† but wow. I am shocked at the Vicki news. I assumed she would basically do this show for [email protected]¬†I agree that if she hadn't showed out at reunion and just patiently sat back, she would have been asked back next season with an orange. I too am sad the last memory we have of her is her losing her [!@#$%^&*] behind the scenes and wasting her venom on BrownWind (of all people) in a homophobic rant. She was more than just those final minutes. She really WAS the OC for 15 years. No matter how much Tamra schemes, she will never be associated with this franchise in the same way. ¬† ¬† Kenya and her Brooklyn ¬† ¬†
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