Tuned in to see Leo Howard was nüTate and there are definite similarities between him and his predecessor, Jamie Martin Mann (who was wasted). Wishing Howard well in the role, especially on this soap with its toxic on-set behaviours.

Not a great cliffhanger.  Brady's blowhard attitude toward Holly comes off as less convincing than EJ's suspicions about Tate.  I mean EJ really thought that Tate was a drug dealer, whereas Brady knows that Holly was conflicted about Tate being in a halfway house.  BTW - I thought Tate's costume and posture went a long way to make him look younger.  They made him shorter than Brady and smaller in stature.  If I didn't know anything about the actor, I wouldn't question an age difference between him and Holly. 

Some questions remain:

1. How does Tate have friends in Salem?  He didn't grow up or go to school there.  He was in town for less than a month before he was hauled off to jail.  So, who is he hanging around with and why do they judge him?
2. Again, why does Holly suddenly have romantic feelings for Tate?
3. Is Marlena's penthouse walking distance from the Dimera mansion?  That ai map really doesn't make sense in the context of this episode. 😉

Also, wasn't there a scene in the pub a few months ago where Stefan talked to Chad, and Chad blew up at the mention of Clyde?  Why is he acting as if Stefan's being blackmailed by Clyde is a surprise?

Finally, why does it seem like Sloan is the least likely attorney that Jada would hire after the whole debacle with Talia and Colin?  I know Sloan helped Talia escape prosecution, but it is nuts that everyone in Salem seems to have just forgotten about this event. 

Edited April 5, 20241 yr by j swift

 

I see no similarities between JMM and Leo Howard as Tate. None. I don't think his age is a problem, but I feel like we're watching a different character.

And yeah, it is absurd that we're now told that Holly feels romantic vibes for Tate. It's a 180 degree turn, and it just doesn't work.

I would argue that Tate's characteristics were not set in stone.  We were told he was a wild and crazy guy who got suspended because of stunts at boarding school.  However, all that we've seen so far is a sweet kid who is scared of breaking the rules, easily lead astray, and has a conflicted relationship with his mother.  So, the change in actors has not yet resulted in any personality change for Tate, because he didn't have that much of one to begin with. 

The fact that one was blond and one is brunette seems to be the only difference. 

7 hours ago, Liberty City said:

Tuned in to see Leo Howard was nüTate and there are definite similarities between him and his predecessor, Jamie Martin Mann (who was wasted). Wishing Howard well in the role, especially on this soap with its toxic on-set behaviours.

What were they? Because I didn’t really see any lol

8 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Leo Howard should have been a recast Will with Zach Tinker returning as Sonny.

You want Will recast? 😂😂

Honestly, I need to give it more than a day with the new Tate.  Nothing immediately turned me off about him, but nothing was spectacular either.  I agree with everyone that Holly's romantic feelings for him came out of nowhere.  I can understand why she would have feelings for her after what he went through to protect her but we skipped from point A to point D in the romance without getting clear views from both Tate and Holly about the progression.

I didn't really think much of Jada using Sloan as a lawyer.  Jada needed a good lawyer quickly and I don't think it's crazy she called Sloan.  Justin may have been a better choice, but Jada doesn't really know Justin so it's not that odd to me.

I'll be honest, Leo doesn't actually bother me in scenes while he's at the Spectator.  He bothers me pretty much in any other scene, but Leo objectively has a job and a purpose at the Spectator so I'd rather he do that than shop and act creepy towards Jude.

I can kind of understand Everett not signing the divorce papers under a different name.  I am sure he has a more ulterior motive, but considering his circumstances I can understand his hesitance, especially since he didn't have his own lawyer.  The whole thing was completely sprung on him.

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

What were they? Because I didn’t really see any lol

 

I didn't see it either.

6 minutes ago, j swift said:

I would argue that Tate's characteristics were not set in stone.  We were told he was a wild and crazy guy who got suspended because of stunts at boarding school.  However, all that we've seen so far is a sweet kid who is scared of breaking the rules, easily lead astray, and has a conflicted relationship with his mother.  So, the change in actors has not yet resulted in any personality change for Tate, because he didn't have that much of one to begin with. 

The fact that one was blond and one is brunette seems to be the only difference. 

Agreed. JMM didn't really have enough time to really define Tate.

I do think LH does look older though.

2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 

You want Will recast? 😂😂

Isn't that why they let Zach go? Because Chandler was only available on recurring? It's Days fault for letting them go the first time.

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Isn't that why they let Zach go? 

I thought Zach left to take the job on Fire Country

3 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I thought Zach left to take the job on Fire Country

I guess so. Forgot about that.

He's available now. All he does is play games online.😂

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

I guess so. Forgot about that.

He's available now. All he does is play games online.😂

Maybe hes afraid that Sonny’s gonna be paired with Leo 😂😂

11 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Honestly, I need to give it more than a day with the new Tate.  Nothing immediately turned me off about him, but nothing was spectacular either.  I agree with everyone that Holly's romantic feelings for him came out of nowhere.  I can understand why she would have feelings for her after what he went through to protect her but we skipped from point A to point D in the romance without getting clear views from both Tate and Holly about the progression.

Agreed.

That storyline, and Everett’s seemed to have gotten a little muddled between Ron’s writing and the scab writing 

Edited April 5, 20241 yr by AbcNbc247

2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Maybe hes afraid that Sonny’s gonna be paired with Leo 😂😂

 

True!😂

1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I thought Zach left to take the job on Fire Country

Zach Tinker appeared in only 5 episodes of Fire Country.

His storyline ended when he was handcuffed and taken away as an arsonist.

Edited April 5, 20241 yr by ranger1rg