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6 minutes ago, John said:

I like Brenda. I like VM. Issue is she wont do anything longer than a year and then bolts. How can you write long-term when as soon as the story gets gangbusters VM walks. 

I don't think it's fair to blame Vanessa for deals GH willingly gives her and for her to leave when it expires.  Do I wish she'd commit longer? Yes.  Has it screwed up long term plans? Yes.  But I can't fault someone for fulfilling their contract and leaving when it is done. She doesn't owe us or GH a lifetime of servitude.  I think every time she left her reasons were valid.

31 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I brought up Ingo in case anyone thought "Well, Ingo has been criticized a lot, so it's not only women who are trashed." To me it doesn't matter that it was a safety thing. The double standard applies because of gender.

Ingo will likely never be back but we don't have these recurring discussions about Ingo's relationship to Frank, or his demands on the set, or about him being difficult. And yes, Steve is an issue, especially since he was able to return with seemingly so little discussion or pushback.

But Ingo's been trashed for way different reasons.  I don't feel it has anything to do with gender.  It's more like he's an awful person.  Not "difficult", "high maintenance", or "controlling" so I don't see the correlation there.

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14 minutes ago, John said:

I like Brenda. I like VM. Issue is she wont do anything longer than a year and then bolts. How can you write long-term when as soon as the story gets gangbusters VM walks. 

I also like Brenda & VM but I don't see Frank going anywhere anytime soon. (Or Mo.) So, it's not actually a real problem because it's moot. As fans we can talk all we want about people we want back on the show but some instances are high 98% unlikely. Others, actual chances exist. Frank even had Demi Moore set to return but then it fell through. I'm half surprised he hasn't recast Jackie Templeton. 

And Ingo is not a fit for this.

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1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

They seem to be dragging to appease May sweeps expectations. But unless that damn wedding leads to a massacre, I am not interested in it or this couple. 
 

 

Michael Easton is as charismatic as a piece of rotting wood. I hate seeing him on this show and have no use for this character. 

So much Michael hate. I love him and he proofed time and time again that he can act but with what exactly? Writers seem not interested in his character and he doesn’t give a damn and takes the paycheck and is phoning it in. I wish Hayden would return for him. They were fire.

There is much more left in him… and he has great hair! I would miss seeing his hair 

Just now, janea4old said:

Vanessa Marcil is doing the GH Fan Club Weekend in August 2024

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I heard that & hadn't posted it because I looked for verification & did not find any. Great, so it's true, she's doing a thing with Maurice!  The pressure from fans to bring back Brenda will just intensify! Sometimes it is great to live in Interesting Times! 

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11 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't think it's fair to blame Vanessa for deals GH willingly gives her and for her to leave when it expires.  Do I wish she'd commit longer? Yes.  Has it screwed up long term plans? Yes.  But I can't fault someone for fulfilling their contract and leaving when it is done. She doesn't owe us or GH a lifetime of servitude.  I think every time she left her reasons were valid.

But Ingo's been trashed for way different reasons.  I don't feel it has anything to do with gender.  It's more like he's an awful person.  Not "difficult", "high maintenance", or "controlling" so I don't see the correlation there.

I guess we'll have to disagree here. For me, the correlation is THAT they're both criticized, not what they're criticized for.

With that criticism, women get labels that men don't.

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Just now, ranger1rg said:

I guess we'll have to disagree here. For me, the correlation is THAT they're both criticized, not what they're criticized for.

With that criticism, women get labels that men don't.

For sure.  My point was I feel like Ingo deserves the criticism while Genie, Vanessa, whoever don't.  So our basic ideas are the same, but I wouldn't defend Genie or Vanessa if they didn't want to get vaxxed back then either.

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18 minutes ago, janea4old said:

 @carolineg (or anyone)
re Vanessa at 2024 fanclub weekend,  (Link to post)
 
When was the last time she did such an event?

I think she's done a few with Mo over the last decade, but I don't know the last one.  It has to have been several years.  I think she was a special guest of Mo's on fanclub weekend maybe 6 or 7 years ago. They are both still pretty friendly so it's not terribly surprising.  Tbh,  I am not the best at recalling fan events because you tend to hear the same stories and info over and over especially with non-current cast member events.

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

Vanessa Marcil is doing the GH Fan Club Weekend in August 2024.
It doesn't say if she's doing the "main cast event" or "stroll down memory lane".

https://www.tiktok.com/@officialghfc/photo/7358201585446522158

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Vanessa is doing a Zoom with Rena first week of May 2024

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1 hour ago, janea4old said:

re Vanessa at 2024 fanclub weekend,  (Link to post) 
When was the last time she did such an event?

This has been my question since I heard about it. Curious and intriguing.

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1 hour ago, Vee said:

This has been my question since I heard about it. Curious and intriguing.

It looks like 2014 where Vanessa was a guest at NLG's GH fan club weekend event.  That's not to say she hasn't done some events with others, but not at the fan club weekend.

Is Vanessa low key/high key campaigning for her job back?  Don't answer just let me live in carolineg's dream world for a while.

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Frank has a rep of keeping his thoughts close and doesn’t share too much. Take with a HUGE grain of salt anyone on here who tries to report Frank’s thoughts and why he won’t allow people back on the show. The board spammer who knows Frank’s innermost plans for GH and would love for everyone to believe that they are in the writers meetings and report every decision Frank makes and why is full of you know what. Come on people. Frank is NOT the telling type. 

4 minutes ago, TEdgeofNight said:

Frank has a rep of keeping his thoughts close and doesn’t share too much. Take with a HUGE grain of salt anyone on here who tries to report Frank’s thoughts and why he won’t allow people back on the show. The board spammer who knows Frank’s innermost plans for GH and would love for everyone to believe that they are in the writers meetings and report every decision Frank makes and why is full of you know what. Come on people. Frank is NOT the telling type. 

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13 hours ago, titan1978 said:

Reading through comments and actually watching the show, and one major issue that I hope is finally addressed is the focal point. This show is dominated by performers not on contract. I know this is a hallmark of the Valentini era, but it has to change.

Blaze has a story about her. Kristin is in stories that she is not the focus of- I can’t remember if this Molly is recurring or not. That also includes TJ, who is on even less than Kristina. Laura is stuck trying to keep Heather on the show with her recurring husband Kevin.

Don't get me wrong- I think there is room for the recurring players. I don’t want Lucy to disappear again. But it’s way over the line with them we look at the focus of the show.

I agree. The number of romantic pairings of contract players with recurring actors is such an odd choice. I think there will need to be some shifts made. I still don't get a sense of what the main stories are on the show that I am suppose to be seeing center stage. A lot of what is working for me right now is character's individual journeys. I just don't necessarily feel these are actual stories yet, but rather motivation and character exploration.  

5 hours ago, John said:

Is Maurice Leaving? This looks like they could be setting up an exit. Loved Laura  and Anna's Talk

I imagine there will be some sorta of legal situation involving Sonny being potential sent to prison for the assault on Cyrus since that has been a talking point since Korte and Mulcahey were being credited. Dex and Joss broke up over it. There was all the talk the last two days about it. Now, whether or not Sonny's medication will be used as an excuse is to be seen. 

I thought the Anna / Laura conversation was fairly strong. I appreciate the amount of introspection that characters are doing regarding explaining why they are who they are or why they have chosen to act the way they have. In some ways, Anna and Laura have been characters that has been drawn to dangerous men so their relationships with Sonny make sense. I'm curious to see if this attitude will be maintained as the show moves forward. 

5 hours ago, John said:

I really liked this whole episode. Lot of family and character moments that continue to build story. Good episode Cathy LePard

I thought the strongest scenes today were in the story revolving around Gregory's failing health. The show has done a really nice job the last two days having Gregory dispense rather sound advice to other characters regarding parenting as it highlights not only who he is as a person, but makes me care a bit more about him. I am going to be upset about his passing. I don't think this is the level of Stone's death, but I appreciate that there is an honest examination about a person's feelings regarding the fact that they are in their final days. I am not always thrilled with Michael Easton's choices, but I did find he did a better than usual job portraying the guilt Finn has over the affair with Jackie and the bitter hostility he has felt for his father. Alexis and Finn's scenes were really well done and that wasn't a dynamic I was expecting to enjoy.  

Gregory's analysis of the Jake/Jason/Liz situation was intriguing because it leaned into Liz's feelings over this situation. I liked Gregory trying to compare Jake to Finn as I imagine this is a dynamic that they were trying to develop in those few pre-Mulcahey and Korte episodes I watched. I am assuming the vape story is being dropped. Who was vaping? 

I thought Chase and Brook Lynn reflecting on their backgrounds was insightful, but I am only interested in this thread because I imagine Chase would receive some sort of money following Gregory's death and how that money will impact their dynamic. 

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